dump trailers

anybody got the new style dump trailers, and hauled dry dirt etc and did it lift it and come out the bed . looked at pj ,titan ,finishline, delta etc. buying next week so if anybody use them let me know with good results. the finishline 10footer seem to dump at much steeper angle which i like so far.

A friend of mine has a Big Tex dump trailer, and it really works and looks good.

I used a Big Tex a year or so ago to haul a bunch of trash out of and old barn. It worked grate, never had to touch a thing. It would nearly lift straight up.

It takes 50° dump angle to dump cleanly and reliably. 45° was what I shot for for grain boxes, but those would not dump wet dirt and other things that don't slide well. The type floor in the trailer will make some difference too, steel will be the slickest. A good dump truck will go to 60°. This is a small dump I made for my daughter last year, it dumps to 50° and things slide out well.

(quoted from post at 09:16:19 01/16/16) anybody got the new style dump trailers, and hauled dry dirt etc and did it lift it and come out the bed . looked at pj ,titan ,finishline, delta etc. buying next week so if anybody use them let me know with good results. the finishline 10footer seem to dump at much steeper angle which i like so far.

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I bought a 14' PJ new in 2007. It has been a good trailer, occasionally dirt or manure will stick to the outside corners but not bad. Only once did I get it too full and it wouldn't lift...actually the guy at the gravel pit overloaded it. I think that load was well over 6 ton. Make sure it has a scissor lift and not dual cylinders....

What size and capacity trailer are you looking at? I will say that I've looked at both the PJ and Big
Tex trailers and in general they are good trailers with the Big Tex usually being a bit heavier and so a
bit stronger. I don't have time today, but if your interested I could look at the brands on line tonight
and tell you what I think of each. I'll need a size and capacity to do that tho.

i have a 14x7 dump trailor eight lug rims its legal at around 9000lb net weight.i have had as much as 13000 on it but not by choice depends on the loader mans mood.it has four d-rings inside the bed thats the only place material hangs up but not that bad.mine is power up/power down i can only get about four dumps and the battery is pretty much shot.if i used it everyday i would run power straight to the truck battery.but over all it works good.has a three way tail gate and slide under bed ramps for loading small tractors and such.
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I bought a brand new Hawke 6'x12' for myself after looking for months for a decent used dump trailer with zero luck.

I am happy with the trailer as it dumps dirt fine and I have hauled lots of dirt with it and big monster loads at that. However I have had loaded damp (borderline mud) and it does not want to dump mud so well. I have had to get in the bed and help it with mud and frankly damp dirt is whole a lot more work to get it out than I like.

More dump angle is certainly better on a dump trailer, but there can be trade-offs to achieve it. While I would not be heartbroken if my trailer went a little higher than it does the cost to get it would have likely increased dramatically. Equally important is being able to lift a heavy load. Some of the trailers that dump higher have issues lifting heavy loads. A friend of mine has a different brand trailer and when he loads it heavy has to help get it up with his skidsteer or it will not raise to dump and it is a newer trailer from a respected manufacturer.

Personally I am a firm believer in a scisossor lift system (adds 1500 to cost right off the top though , single cylinder is my 2nd choice. I would not own a dual cylinder myself as if one of the cylinders fails or a hose blows then the trailer can turn over sideways. I know someone who experience this firsthand. A telescoping cyllinder can be nice too, but those are rare in dump trailers from the mainstream manufacturers and astronomical in price if you do find one so these are mostly found in dump trucks.

Trade-offs everywhere. Frame construction is vastly different from brand to brand as well so look at that.

You hit on all the main points very well. Know what fits each person's use is harder to nail down tho. I don't think any trailer type is overlooaded more often than a dump trailer.

Tell your friend to check the pressure relief on his pump, I've seen them set way too low and that could be his,problem.

was thinking 14ft range wide drop axle bumper style. what you think of the finishline units or delta is in my area close. the local has a ten footer and it really goes up single cylinder thou. thought 6100 was on high side for that size but just started looking. lifting house in march so this will all be hauled out cement bust up with breaker etc .

14k rating?

Spray the inside of the bed with Armour All before using. Helps the load release

YEA probably would have to be if i ever thought putting skid into it. but days using ramps i quit doing. course last set ramps i changed out to aluminum units. looking at partial tilt unit also for the skidloader hauling.

If you want you can call me at 320 492 9077. If youu would like me to talk you through a few things, it's easier to do on the phone than here.

Used trailers that aren't junk are darned hard to find. I picked up one made out of an old 3 yard dump truck a couple of years back. Lucked into it. Bought an Oliver 1850 and the fellow sez, "know anyone who wants a dump trailer?" "Yeah, I do. How much?" Feller said $750, but since you just bought a tractor and loader, too, $500. "Sold!" Neighbor looked for one for nearly two years before he found one like mine. Anything I've seen of modern design at auctions and such were in rough shape. The ones made out of old dump trucks are getting very scare.

Jon I am also looking at bumper pull dumps 12' long , the brand I have been looking at is diamond c. Please enlighten me.

jon f mn: Could I ask what you use for hyd. pump.? I have a home-made tilt that uses one like would be on a press. terrible slow!! thank you

This is the pump I used. It pumps in both the up and down stroke so it's pretty fast. But I only used a 2 1/2" cylinder, so if yours is larger it would take a long time to dump.
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I have a 10 ft, 10k dump trailer made in Elkart, In by Chubb insutries. I found mine on ebay. It has no name on it. Picked it up in Elkart. Been a great trailer. It weighs about 3k so payload is 7k. I like the way it's built, strong corners, combo tail gate, powercoat, twin cylinders. Check out the front of trailer. Built like a truck. Everyone that sees mine wish they had it instead of the one they bought .

Neighbor has a 14k corn pro. Empty his weighs 4K. So he can haul 10K. IMO, his wheels are positioned too far back, so a lot of weight is on the tongue. When I load it for him with my backhoe, I have to put the heavy stuff over the wheels and be careful not to put too much weight on the truck.

Jon f mn, do you have any other pics of the lift part of the trailer you built for your daughter?

I looked at this trailer and it appears to be well made. I don't see any structural problems and the frame is more than adequate. The web site does not list a dump angle tho, so make sure it's at least 45? for what you want to do. Also look closely at the overhang, it looks in the picture like the rear might hit the ground before full tilt is reached. For what you want to do it should do fine as long as the dump angle is steep enough, and as I said that is not in the literature. I look at what they had online and downloaded the pdf files and nothing there on it either. In my experience if they don't brag about it, it is not enough. Lol

I looked up the 4 brands you listed here and this is what I see. I think the least attractive of the bunch is the PJ. Starting with it lists a 40? dump angle, that is going to have you helping with the unloading. You need at least 45? to get stuff out reliably and then wet dirt and some debris types are going to be trouble, at 40? that is going to be significant. I'm also not impressed by the 11ga tubing in the construction. Tubing, especially as thin as 11ga, is a rust through problem if you're in the salt belt at all. Other than that I don't see anything that causes me great concern.

The finnish line trailer does not list a dump angle anywhere I could find, so check that carefully. Remember you need at least 45?. Other than that they appear to be heavy made, the 3/16" floor and taller frame rails will make for a more durable trailer than the PJ. This one also has the remote control, so no wires, that should be handy so you can keep the control in the truck.

The delta list a 45? dump angle, so that is good. Looks to have a very heavy duty frame and is well designed as far as I can see. The 10ga floor is the minimum, but exceptable. The axles are the same as the others. This one also list the cordless remote control.

The titan also lists a 45? dump angle in the pdf download. The frame size is not listed, but looks ok to me, altho lighter duty than the delta or Finnish Line. The sides, altho only 12ga, are galvanised so that might be a benifit. They also use torflex axles which are very good axles and will never have a worn out suspension. They will also help if your tow vehicle is a bit on the light side.

So, if I was buying and money was not the issue, I like the titan the best. I like the PJ the least. The other 2 will be heavier and maybe a bit more durable in sone ways, but will be harder to pull and have less net capacity due to the heavier construction. For what it's worth, that's how I see them.

I posted the entire build in tool talk, so if you do a search there you should be able to find it. But here are some pics of the hoist. If you want more just let me know.

you ever heard of or seen miska trailers. looks like they have slick load gate on rear.

ztrmower,

Here is a pic of my trailer off ebay. This is an 12 footer, mine is 10. I think the angle is 45. which is plenty for dumping dirt and anything I put in it. I like the twin cylinders. This trailer has no name on it. Good change it was made in Elkart, In. I only paid around $4k, tax and spare included. If interested, I may have the guy's #. He has a used car sales and his dad works at the factory that builds them. Wouldn't be surprised is other names aren't put on trailer. I've had mine for 4 years now, no issues except replaced the battery recently.

If you look closely at the 12 and 14 ft dumps, it seems like the distance from rear of dump trailer to the wheels stays about the same. Which means more weight it put on the tongue of truck. I love the balance of my trailer, full and empty.
10k 12 ft dump

right now leaning toward the finishline 14ft unit drop axles with spread axle setup. should carry y skid better without being so tongue heavy.