Wild Horses

Madhorse · Dec 13, 2015

Who thinks people should let cowboys catch wild horses? People want to replace cattle with horses because they think horses are
better than cattle. It s vice-versa. Cattle are better than horses because the cattle have split hooves and cattle don t compact
the ground. Horses on the other hand have solid hooves and horses compact the ground. I think people should have all wild horses
caught and trained by cowboys and let cattle get on with helping the lands. What do you think?

Russ from MN · Dec 13, 2015

Then are we going to eat horses like the rest of the world? You have kind of an incoherent rant!!

Madhorse · Dec 13, 2015

Very funny. I m just saying people should let horses be caught and taken care of so that grass can grow.

Greg K · Dec 13, 2015

I think that it is like the old sheep vs cows argument. Your know, when they would kill the sheep herders for letting their sheep eats the cows grass for various reasons, cows would refuse to graze where sheep had, sheep would carry disease, etc. How about we destroy all of anything that mildly but negatively affects me. I understand that if you are ranching in Utah where there are wild horses the issue is closet to home but the all or nothing argument seems like overkill. Just my opinion, worth what you paid for it

Madhorse · Dec 13, 2015

Well, wild horses are a problem everywhere including Nevada

David G · Dec 13, 2015

They need to be managed.

IaGary · Dec 13, 2015

So the people who adopt them lose their grass. The locals to the wild horses gain theirs.

One man helped by another mans sacrifice.

Madhorse · Dec 13, 2015

Finally, somebody agrees with me. And totally agree with you.

Moonlite37 · Dec 13, 2015

I wonder if the wild horses can be trained to be a satisfactory animal. I recall my dad had a couple "Westerns" and they has some personality quirk.

sms · Dec 13, 2015

They are managed, there is a documentary on TV about a contest, people get a wild horse from a thinning program have to train it, then show it so you know it is trained, then auction it. Amazing how well some can train them in a short period of time.

37chief · Dec 13, 2015

If it's your land I guess you can raise anything you want. If horses are raised for meat that brings up a totally different issue with horse people. Just to let horses roam around on public land is not a good idea. Some gov land here in Ca cattle are brought in, feed on the grass, then removed after so many months. Wild horses and burros are rounded up from gov land here and sold. These animals were just doing too much damage. How do I know? I bought one of their burros. Stan

Bill(Wis) · Dec 13, 2015

We need to get good old John,pa in on this conversation. Then it would make some sense. (;>))

Greg K · Dec 13, 2015

When I was a kid they converted a local feed lot to house some of these mustangs. They would catch them out west and ship them here where there aren't any wild horses for people to adopt. I can remember going to look at it but dad was awful concerned with the fact that some could be unbreakable, that coupled with the fact that they would check on you for 4 years or so and some other regulations. I don't have a problem with regulating them but the kill em all attitude isn't any better than the you can't do anything to them attitude.

Bob Harvey · Dec 13, 2015

Were you scared by a horse then you were little ? Maybe we should round up and delete ALL the hooved critters so you will feel better. Give your head a shake.

Ultradog MN · Dec 13, 2015

With the price of beef these days, if I could buy horseburger for less I would do so.
Sometimes I think that horse people are a little like cat people and are too emotional about the need to control wild populations.
There needs to be a more reasoned, pragmatic approach to control excess populations.

RalphWD45 · Dec 13, 2015

That conversation can be volitale, depending on where you are. I live in Washington state and BLM has several wild horse adoption places here. They come in from several southwest states, so I suppose there are quite a few places that they range in. Some folks have really good luck breaking and training, most of them, I guess it depends on your skills. Some folks shouldn't have any animal, cause they wont take care of them, when the new wears off. Some of those horses are really scrubb animals and look more like donkeys, than horses, and I wouldn't want to fool with some of them. Like someone said earlier, there are a lot of hoops to jump thru, to satisfy the BLM, and also a pretty stiff adoption fee, for a boneheaded bronk. I have friends that graze a lot of BLM ground south of Burns Oregon, and have to compete for grass, with wild horses. They think that all wild horses should be eliminated, and especially after last summers wildfires. That is just greed, and the horses were there before, they got their grazing lease's We all have our opinions, and each of us think we are justified. NUFF said!

Ozlander · Dec 13, 2015

(quoted from post at 16:57:33 12/13/15) Well, wild horses are a problem everywhere including Nevada

Well, they are NOT a problem on my land.

dlbuck · Dec 13, 2015

That's funny.

Dick2 · Dec 14, 2015

The do-gooders stopped the round-up of wild horses on governmint land; the do-gooders won't adopt the horses themselves, they just want to let the horses run wild and overpopulate (which is probably what they would like to do themselves?).

Anyone who wants to eat horse meat should be allowed to take all they want. I guess the do-gooder animal lovers are just a little nuttier than the average person walking around today.

MichiganMike · Dec 14, 2015

I use to check out the BLM horses. My brother owned a mustang it was a good enough looking horse. A bit of a roman nose, but in the winter did that horse ever shag out. We also had a BLM stud donkey from CA.He would have made some nice mules. He was very thick in the front and neck not so much in the rear. When I was checking out the BLM round up's the nicest ones I saw were from the Burns Oregon herds. They looked very nice. It seems like alot of the south western Horses were short and srubby looking...They may have been picked over to much before getting here...MTP

isie · Dec 14, 2015

I have a blm mustang and although they can be tough to gentle, I wouldn't have any other kind of horse. All male horses and donkeys are gelded before they can be adopted from the blm. They have just as much right to eat the grass as do the cows, and the public is helping fund the feeding of these cows thru the low cost of pasture on public land.

isie · Dec 14, 2015

This is my current blm mustang,shilah he is out of Nevada, the first two passed away a couple years ago kiya, and Ernie, they were out of Wyoming.

isie · Dec 14, 2015

Current mustang.

4520BW · Dec 14, 2015

A girl I went to high school went to collage in Texas and one night hit a wild horse on the interstate and she died from it.

Lazy WP · Dec 14, 2015

This pretty much sums up my opinion of Federal oversight.

Andy Martin · Dec 14, 2015

(quoted from post at 18:04:03 12/13/15) If it's your land I guess you can raise anything you want. If horses are raised for meat that brings up a totally different issue with horse people. Just to let horses roam around on public land is not a good idea. Some gov land here in Ca cattle are brought in, feed on the grass, then removed after so many months. Wild horses and burros are rounded up from gov land here and sold. These animals were just doing too much damage. How do I know? I bought one of their burros. Stan

that's the key, if it's your land. Otherwise it's just more government incompetence, whether it's leasing land to cattle ranchers for a pittance or paying to dollar for ranchers to feed wild horses on their owned land. Big business in Oklahoma, caring for wild horses on your land at the government's expense. But don't tell me you want to get rid of wild horses because they impact your grazing rights.

Hogleg · Dec 14, 2015

My daughter runs a horse rescue - state licensed and incorporated. That is my bona fides...

She has broken a few mustangs. They are harder to break but when done can be just as good or bad as any other horse. She usually has to lay them down to gain their trust, then they break just fine.

Yes, they can have quirks, just like any other horse (or human for that matter). Most of the time quirks are from the owner not knowing enough about how to redirect bad behavior AT THE TIME IT OCCURS. Let any horse get away with stuff and you get to deal with it later. Treat every ride as a potential training time and you will have a well mannered horse.

On the slaughter issue, it is not just a horse meat issue. It is a humane issue. To a large extent, the horses are terribly handled by the meat buyers, stuffed into cattle trucks that are too low and crowded so they get further injured. Lastly, when they are in the slaughter process, if they balk, they usually blind them to get them into the kill pen. A really awful way to treat them. If they could be humanely put down, then harvested, that may make a difference to some. But to put them thru a living hell for a week or so to get them there and processed is just not right.

John

ss55 · Dec 14, 2015

It seems there is always someone offering to graze "unused" federal land for next to nothing, or to lumber all those tree going to waste in the national parks for free. To me, wild hogs are much a bigger problem than wild horses. Maybe the cowboys with extra time on their hands will be willing to round up all the wild hogs on federal land for free?

Animals with split hooves don't compact soil? How did the "sheep's foot packer" get its named?

Bret4207 · Dec 14, 2015

Too many horses or cattle are a bad thing for the land. I have both and if there's an ounce of difference on compaction I can't see it. They both tend to walk the same paths over and over, eat the prime stuff and leave the weeds, compact areas they shouldn't. Neither are indigenous animals. both carry diseases and cause problems. It's not and either or issue IMO. We should be slaughtering horses, but that's another issue.

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