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FBH44

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Any of you disgusted with today's kids? Well here's how to reverse your attitude; sign up at the high school to be a Speech-and-Debate judge. Absolutely no experience required, and you will be inspired. They are all wearing white starched shirts, ties, suits, the girls are in .... NICE DRESSES!!. They are thoughtful, respectful, studious, hard-working, they will NOT stop calling you Sir, they are so concentracted on their topic of the monent you could walk up to them and say something, they will not hear, they are so focused. I judged for two days, didn't see one tattoo.
 
Some parents are still doing there jobs, raising there children to be decent human beings who are interested in things other than themselves. Sounds like a very good experience.
 
Some people are trying to raise their kids right, but there are more opportunities for peer pressure now. When I left school at the end of the day, there was no more peer pressure that day. Now with cell phone, texts, email, social media, etc, the peer pressure continues on into the night. Kids have got to real strong to resist that. I could have handled that, but I guess that I was an exception to the norm.
 
thats great to hear,,,we also met a lot of great kids with 4h,,my daughter had the goat,and years ago my wife had a baking club...lots of great kids
 
When I taught religious classes the best kids were the ones that didn't have the latest in t shirt or other trinkets from wally world . Rather it was the kids with the hand me down clothing faded but clean . It's nice to hear of kids that are good and if I see one that does something special I not only thank them but there parents for a job well done. I never forget an article I saw someplace that said parents failure to discipline there kids leaves it up to society to discipline later. You can't help but wonder if some kids act up or get tattoos as a means of getting attention that maybe they didn't get at home it might not be all there fault one teacher told me you would like to slap a kid but all the needed was a hug unfortunately both can get you into trouble these days
 

Peer pressure is a very strong force on teens. That is why the company that kids keep is vitally important. We found that the 4H kids were a great bunch for our kids to hang with and that the parents were all involved in their kids lives and actively parenting. Legitmate Christian youth groups also give give the kids a lot of support. I read once where kids in a Christian youth group were 86% less likely to get into trouble!!!!!!!
 
Dick2 pretty much hit it on the head about peer pressure. I had the opportunity/blessing to get to teach Agriculture for about 10 years. If you want to see the best of what we have go to any FFA activity, it always gives me hope for the future. Better yet attend the national FFA convention. 50 thousand of the best behaved people you have ever been around young or old! In Louisville one year I got distracted trying to be sure I got some of my students to a competition they were in. I left a $500 camera laying on a table in the middle of this huge crowd. I went back 30 minutes later and it was still laying there! Were there people present that would have picked it up? I am sure there was. My point is that with FFA kids the peer pressure is overwhelmingly positive. I feel like God blessed me to let me have that job for a few years. My wife and I both volunteer many hours a year to help them.
 
I think many of the parents may be succumbing to peer pressure themselves, maybe more so than their children. Our DIL believed a lot of nonsense she had read or saw on TV about raising children before she had her first child but it did not take her long to switch gears and remember how she was raised herself. There are a lot of good young people and good kids out there, I hope they all have the opportunity to do well for themselves and prosper from their hard work and talents in this great nation we live in.
 
FBH, I had the same feeling while watching the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade on TV. Here were literally thousands of kids, playing in bands, marching with drill teams, doing acrobatics and dramatics in the street, etc. And not a "device" to be seen! Regardless of the activity, they were exerting effort and trying to do a good job at something.
And Showcrop, I've always thought that watching who your kids associate with is maybe the single most important thing a parent can do (other than demand respect and discipline, of course). Teach a "course of conduct" that is expected, and make sure their associates are from families that demand the same.
 
When I retired from my real job I started driving school bus part time.
It opened my eyes as far as today's kids in my area.
Its just like anything else. You got lots of good and some bad. Everyone hears and knows about the bad but they don't seem to hear as much about the good.
 
(quoted from post at 09:27:00 12/06/15) Any of you disgusted with today's kids? Well here's how to reverse your attitude; sign up at the high school to be a Speech-and-Debate judge. Absolutely no experience required, and you will be inspired. They are all wearing white starched shirts, ties, suits, the girls are in .... NICE DRESSES!!. They are thoughtful, respectful, studious, hard-working, they will NOT stop calling you Sir, they are so concentracted on their topic of the monent you could walk up to them and say something, they will not hear, they are so focused. I judged for two days, didn't see one tattoo.
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That's comforting, but what percentage of kids are in debate clubs? .00000000067 or something like that? What percentage are flaming morons?
 
The sad thing is the debate team will be talked about on page fifty of the local paper, if at all. Where the local "bad" boys that play foot ball/basketball will be on the front page for their high school "glory". The majority of the kids today are good kids that are not much different than the kids were when we were that age.

Our schools are just a reflection of the society we live in. SPORTS are glorified. That is a detriment to the entire society. The smart kids that are going on the be the next doctors, researchers and scientist are ignored or even ridiculed for being good at school/books. I feel this switch of focus in the entire education system is one of the reasons we are falling behind in the national education numbers. This is really true in some minority groups. There are many young black men that think/believe their only options to make good money are sports or drug dealing/crime. So they do not take advantage of the education that they could get IF they wanted it.

The very smart kids are still getting a pretty good education but the bottom is not. The teachers have just about given up on them and just baby sit them until they "PASS" out of the system.
 
This is strictly an antecdotal observation I have developed over say 50 years of watching kids and young adults BUT ITS WHAT I HAVE SEEN It may or may NOT be same as you observed so don't have a calf.

Kids I have observed as exhibitors and participants at Local County and State Fairs,,,,,,,,,Kids who are 4H or FFA members,,,,,,,,,,,,,Kids I have observed who are home schooled,,,,,,,,,,,,Kids I have observed who attend religious school,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Kids I have observed who live and work on family farms,,,,,,,,,,,

ARE MUCH MORE POLITE,,,,,,,MUCH MORE CONSIDERATE,,,,,,,,MUCH MORE MATURE,,,,,,,,,MUCH MORE ARTICULATE AND WILL TALK TO OLDER PEOPLE,,,,,,,,,,SEEM MORE PATROTIC then public government institution schooled or from other then these situations

Tool bad if my observations offend anyone IM ONLY SAYING WHAT I OBSERVED If your obseravtions are different so be it.

John T
 
Amen J D Seller ! Every week our local paper has at least a 2 page spread on our local basketball teams. When we wanted to do a half page on the local FFA activities they charged me $200 ! I wouldnt have done it but I had told the kids we would. We had one of those students become a state officer, 2 became ag teachers, 1 is a civil engineer working on nuclear power plants and the rest went on to other successful careers. I told them at the time that if our ball players had as much success as them they would have statues of them in front of the school! The sad thing is our educational "leaders" are getting away from programs like these. In Tn. many high schools have a"sports block" where they actually practice ball during class time. A lot of places these students schedules are done first to assure the coach gets them. What does this teach our students?
 
I will make a more general statement about todays kids, as I have two. My house has also become the hang out for all their friends. Which I like because I then know where my kids are.

My learnings, barring maybe one exception...

A way a kid acts is a direct reflection of how involved their parents are in their life. If a kid receives zero attention from the parent(s), they will find it elsewhere. Either acting out in class, in public or where ever they choose.

My kids are in a variety of activities from Honor Society and other civics to sports. You see the same profile regardless of activity. Parents involved and caring = kids that respect each other and adults.

Of course there are exceptions.

Rick
 
JD I hear you. And I like your line, SPORTS are glorified. That is a detriment to the entire society. I think most sports teach kids that it is ok to try to hurt other people as fun. I will never vote for any school tax because of the sports progrem. Working with the Amish I see a lot of 3 year old kids that are more mature and smarter than the average 30 year old. And they are out there trying to help Mom & Dad. About every Amish school has a basketball hoop in the school yard that the kids play on but it is just for fun, no compition.
 
My youngest son would have quit high school his first opportunity had he not loved playing football. He also learned about toughness from wrestling. Somewhere/how during his last 2 years he turned things around for himself. He taught science for the past 18 years and is currently a high school principal. With local support some sports can pay more than they cost and can bring a sense of community to some areas that wouldn't otherwise have it. That all being said, the main thing I'd like to express is that todays kids were all raised by us or the children we raised. We shouldn't be acting like they were just delivered here and we got gypped. gm
 
My son teaches at a small rural HS. He is in charge of the quiz bowl team and the mock trial team. Those kids are great. He started his teaching career at a school just outside of Memphis and was little more than a guard for future prison inmates. The only sport that they have at his school is basketball so there are fewer distractions. I've noticed that lately the local papers are giving more time to the academic competitions. That is a little encouraging.
 
Gary Mitchell said "That all being said, the main thing I'd like to express is that todays kids were all raised by us or the children we raised. We shouldn't be acting like they were just delivered here and we got gypped. gm" And imo is the correct focus when asking "what's this world coming to"..
 
JD. I agree with you about the sports being glorified. When I was in school I never developed an interest in sports, one reason being my Dad had a job for us almost every day and it needed to be done when he came in from the fields. I am not saying that in a negative way either. Those responsibilities taught me how to discipline myself for later on in life.

The "jocks" who did the athletic things that were near my age have became mostly those who barely get by or live on assets that were given to them by their families. Those of us who had to work have went on to become fairly successful in our lives. I guess it is along the same lines of the girls who were the knock dead gorgeous ones have now went in to be old wrinkled women where the plain jane's are looking good in their older years.

I can remember some of those feelings of being scorned or not on the same level as the sports heroes when I was in school, but can smile at them now as they are the ones who have not been as successful. I also have bad feelings for the coaching staff also.

Just my thoughts.....
 
You can help change that!! My grandson placed first in 6th grade math in statewide competition last year. Not a word in our local paper so I contacted the principal and offered to write a press release if the teacher/coach would send me the info. I found that the school had sent it to the local paper but they hadn't published it. Ticked me off! So, I contacted the editor and said my piece about celebrating the successes of our kids that would really matter in later life.

Next week, full page spread, next to sports page with a nice story, pics of all the quiz bowl team members, AND my guy with his plaque!

Get involved, make some noise, convince some people. Papers respond to readers, they want more!

I remember hearing this when I was younger: get to know all the nerds in your school, cultivate their friendship all through your school years. Because, you'll probably work for them the rest of you life.
 
A few years ago I drove bus at our summer games. Athletes all had name and location tags. We all noticed kids from small towns or from the northern cites were All very polite and appreciative to the volunteers. The kids from the large cities were another thing. They totally ignored the bus drivers and the profanity was unreal. I am not a saint but I guess I am from the old school where there was NO profanity in public and kids respected adults no matter who they were. The good thing about it MOST kids turn out good.
Dave
 
I am a Custodain at the R.U.S.D been there for 29 years. What I see in kids is what the parents morals are. I say that because I am in the big City life style. What I see in the kid is what the parents are. we bring up our kids with our laws or morals and what gets said threw our lips. Even if we want to say bad words that get changed quiclky to differnt words. I like one of mine instead of B.S. I say threw just talking threw there hat. We as adults have to remind ourself that kids watch us all the time and yes they do listen to. Even if you do not know it but they still hear you and what you say. Even in a small town I find kids that are the same way as the big towns. I feel it is up to the parents to set the standards of a lifestyle that there kids want to be apart of. Parents have a big role to do they raise a kid for the world, to make them go and do. While others poke fun of them or try to tear them down they have to learn to stand tall and walk forward.
 
Newspapers are not interested in what people want, only what the editor wants. The paper the I delievered rual for around 15 years, there unofficial moto was If it is news we do not want to hear about it, if we acidently find out about it we will not print it. And the front page headlins that would have sold the most papers from vender boxes had the headline just below the fold so it could not be seen, only because they did not want people to know about it and hoped the ones that bought a subscription would not say anything about it. I tried many a time to try to get them to use common sence in layout but they would not do it and then complained about us route drivers loosing them customers. It was quality they lacked that cost them customers and that is why newspapers are still going out of bussiness, not the electronic media that they blame.
 
We always hear about kids doing bad things because of peer pressure- everyone"s doing it. Peer pressure can be a positive thing as well, and it needs to be emphasized more. Successful students understand that, and achieve more.
 
We have a great niece who was featured on a local TV station last week as being an inspiration to us all.

Our nephew and his wife adopted her from an orphanage in Bulgaria when she was about a year old. She was born with only one leg. She only has a short stump where her right leg should be.

In high school, she was on a swim team and a dance team. She's now a cheerleader at Nebraska Wesleyan University in Lincoln. Her right leg is too short for a prosthesis, so she does everything either on crutches or simply on one leg. When she's cheerleading, she lays her crutches on the floor behind her.

She's also a danged good looking kid. Kinda ornery, too.

Her outlook in Bulgaria would have been brutal, had our nephew and his wife not adopted her. Reports I've heard say they would have let her grow, with minimum care, until she was adult sized, then put her to sleep and harvested her organs for transplant.
 
She was a guest on a talk radio show here in Omaha Ne. " KFAB" I seen a video of her dancing she's very good and your correct she is also very pretty.
Tony
 
When she was about 4 years old, she crawled on my lap once. Due to a childhood accident, I'm missing my left index finger to the second joint. Sophie homed in on my missing finger and had to show my hand to everyone that walked past. I think she must have related to someone who was also missing a body part, although a missing finger is miniscule compared to a missing leg.

Once when she was about 12, I saw her get into a footrace with her sister across a parking lot. Sophie on crutches and her sister on two legs. Sophie almost won. I've never seen anyone move like that on crutches.

She is quite a kid. I'm glad you got to see her.
 

Reread the post above. The results of my intervention indicate that the editor did listen and respond.

The more readers they have, the more ads they can sell and at a higher unit price.
 
17 year old grand daughter got her 1st deer today, she seems to be one of the good kids.Not disrespectful in any way and always wanting to help clean up after Christmas dinner, Easter, etc. Dad and grand ma must have done right.
 

As a homeschooling parent, one of the things I constantly hear is, "Don't you worry about your kids not being properly socialized?". Often the very same people are the ones saying, "Gosh, you're kids are so polite and respectful. I wish my kids were more like that."

All I can say is , "Duh!"
 
You have a very unusual editor to be that way. It is not that way around here. Local paper, when the next door boy that lived in the local school district all his life and that includs the papers coverage area. Worked in next county as sherifs deputy and got in a crusier wreck. Paper did not cover it at all, yet he was local boy, said because it happened in county over it was not local news. He still lived local. I blew up at them over that, finly put in a little blurb that he had been injered in axident and that was it. All his friends still lived in town that his wreck was not news to any of them. What is known as about the best paper around in first county west. Photograffer out and took pictures, closed federal highway for at least 4 hours put in one picture of semi, 3 total plus a Jeep and van, nothing about what had happened, they had full information but chose not to let people know what happened. That is not wanting to report news. That is the way it is with every paper around here.
 
Disgusted with you're child's behavior? Put them in private school.
Depending on where you live there are some good public schools, but there are also ALOT of bad ones. The bad ones can undo everything you teach at home.
 
I have to agree that we get from our children according to what effort we put in to our children. There are exceptions in both directions, as always. Unfortunately, most people do not want to put in the effort needed to raise their children. It is a LOT of work.
 

Those kids will be the ones that the slackers will be working for someday, and of course resenting it.
 
im 14 and i hate this generation the kids are spoiled i think i turned out good i grew up on a farm and i was slapped when ever i got out of line parents need to start slapping the kids and quite giving them everything i got my first job building house at 12. I think this generation is stupid no one knows how to be polite and respectful
 
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