My new Tractor shed

James Williams · Oct 19, 2015

Here is my new tractor shed,Its a 30x40.If you remember the town I live in told me to put my tractors inside or get rid of them.This is 14,000 dollars later.FEMA decided I live in a flood zone so I cant build the sides to the ground,or install doors.Im going to install a sign saying all thieves are welcomed

jimmy

ChasK · Oct 19, 2015

If the thieves kept away when they were outside, I don't think being [u:f85c4e22a0]inside [/u:f85c4e22a0]will draw them out.

The shed looks nice despite how you had to build it.

stonerock · Oct 19, 2015

FEMA is a joke, one of the biggest screw-ups they have ever come up with. what a waste of tax money, they couldn't handle a dog poopin in there front yard let alone a disaster someware...I have to get flood ins on 20 ac at the cost of 850.00 per year because they said it was in a flood plane, its vacant farm ground, I have crop ins on it........FEMA IS THE DISASTER

Mike M · Oct 19, 2015

I would build a false panel that blends in with the rest of the building but make it removable. Wala No doors !
Since it is a flood plane ? I can see flood waters washing dirt up against the bottom boards in time. wink. wink.

Ron-MO · Oct 19, 2015

Yeah, a little town I used to live in told me I could not have a flat pad poured inside a pole building that I owned. Or at least I could not get a permit to do so. Somehow the pad got poured on a couple saturdays. They wanted me to dig footings around perimeter, specific rebar, etc and the list went on. If I would have followed their spec I could not have afforded to do it, and it was nearly impossible inside a existing building. If I were you, I would do the same, and the doors would appear on a weekend or evenings, unless you have some close neighbors that might cause a rumble. It's your property.

ss55 · Oct 19, 2015

Dumb question: Why bother putting up a new building inside a flood plain? Isn't that just asking for trouble the next time it floods? Won't it be either you, an insurance company or the government that will wind up paying for the predictable flood damage?

DENNIS MIN · Oct 19, 2015

James,

Make the welcome sign the size of a door.

D.

Janicholson · Oct 19, 2015

Hinged skirting with mighty springs to keep out biologicals
Plastic strip doors, or hinged with magnetic closing (in or out) with an alarm! Jim

LAA · Oct 19, 2015

In Louisiana all you have to do to get regular insurance if building in a flood zone is to get a survey and then build the pad for the building up to whatever minimum the surveyor comes up with, or at least that is the way it is in the parish I live in. I have never heard of FEMA having a say so in it, at least not in my part of the state, maybe southeast. A welcome sign on one of those coffin shaped doors might give a thief with half a brain something to think about.

jeffcat · Oct 19, 2015

I would ask the same question as most of the others. Couldn't you have built up one heck of a dirt pad? Let us say 5 or6 feet tall and tell them that it is a raised flower bed. Tehe! Other than that it looks nice. I think I will come down in the middle of the night and steal it.

rrc300 u · Oct 19, 2015

Gotta love big brother helping you out. I would start by planting some shrubs or some other cover and then fill in from the inside till it was enclosed all the way around. Wait a while and just add the doors I bet nobody says anything. Looks nice and you will be suprised how fast it will fill up

JerryS · Oct 19, 2015

LAA, here's another way our brothers in Cajunland handle the problem:

Russ from MN · Oct 19, 2015

But, if it get's sold to someone someday and they assume it was built to code, they are getting screwed! There are reasons for building codes.

Wheatfarmer · Oct 19, 2015

Line it with hog panels and put a nice little 150lb puppy in it.

Married2Allis · Oct 19, 2015

Reminds me of a plumbing company nearby years ago that had a sign over the shop door: "These premises shotgun rigged three nights per week. You guess which three."

jeffcat · Oct 19, 2015

Now that looks just plain crazy. I know it works but what ever. Now the only thing is if it does flood you gotta run like heck with your trucks and stuff to hi- ground. Can you plant shrubs around that?

samn40 · Oct 19, 2015

Are you allowed gates? if they can keep them in maybe, just maybe, they will also keep them out?....Some tarp behind the gates would stop anyone seeing in until such times as when someone decides to clad the gates! LOL

stonerock · Oct 19, 2015

LAA,, I have never heard of FEMA having a say so in it, that is because FEMA screwed up so bad in your state when KATRINA hit they are not allowed back!!

TomH in PA · Oct 19, 2015

Here in PA the only thing that determines whether you are in a flood zone is you political connections. Some of the "contour lines" are crazy gerrymandered.

If it was me I'd wait a few months and accidentally forget that I wasn't supposed to close off the bottom or install a door.

Mark - IN. · Oct 19, 2015

Sorry to here that you had to go through that, and then the limitations to how it can be constructed AFTER being forced to construct it in the first place. Government. And there are some that wonder why some of us have zero use for government, or more accurately, those that represent it.

Here is a local story from a couple of months ago where a young lady acquired or inherited her grandfather's restored Case 830 and dared to put it on her front lawn within the city limits. Its a sharp tractor and from what I remember seeing on the televised local news, none of her neighbors had a problem with it. The local mayor or his code enforcers did though, and that's all that matters. What he doesn't have trouble with, as I've seen on the news, are illegal aliens raising chickens in coops or their fenced in yards. Roosters waking up the neighbors, as I understand, not a problem with the mayor or his code enforcers. This tractor though...

To read the story you have to submit to a quick survey, otherwise the story is blocked out.

Good luck. Remember those persons at election time.

Mark
This Case 830 MUST Go, Or Else

john in la · Oct 19, 2015

That house is built that high cause he wants to not because he is forced to.
Look at the other buildings. They are not that high.

You would get a real kick out of some of the mobile homes up that high.
Some are 15 to 20 feet off the ground.

john in la · Oct 19, 2015

The rules for my little chunk of land.

The floor of every building (including dirt floors) has to be 22 feet above sea level.
So that tractor shed would not be allowed here unless you fill the floor in with dirt.

If your property has any area below 22 feet no matter how small you have to either......
Get a elevation survey showing the floor is above 22 feet or
Get a survey that shows you built the building on the area that by the flood map is above 22 feet
LSU has a flood map that shows the elevation of the land and where the flood zones are.

What the parish calls a pole barn is exempt from the above rules.
Problem is what they call a pole barn and what I call a pole barn are different.
To them a pole barn is poles and a roof only. No walls.

Dave Sherburne, NY · Oct 19, 2015

Put the doors on and paint pictures on them so it looks like no doors

john in la · Oct 19, 2015

Jerry you ought to see how they are raising the houses in New Orleans.

They take a slab house.
Dig under the slab and jack the whole slab and house up.
Most I have seen are raised about 4 feet.
Then they build shoring under the house and build a wall all the way around the edge of the slab.
Then they pump sand under the house to fill the void.

NCWayne · Oct 19, 2015

Personally I'd paint pictures of my tractors, as they'd look outside the shed, on the side of the shed.....just as a big middle finger to the town folks that didn't like looking at the real thing........

old-9 · Oct 19, 2015

Yes from Elkhart, Indiana,, the city with a "hart". Ya RIGHT!!!

larry@stinescorner · Oct 19, 2015

very nice!now,,,fill it up with stuff!!

rview_ · Oct 19, 2015

http://m.ketv.com/news/fema-basements-not-allowed-in-future-pilger-homes/26754328

geoff h · Oct 19, 2015

Here on Long Island NY I am restricted by the distance horizontally from the water. I am considered to be in the flood plain because I am 1/2 mile from LI Sound. The fact that I am 100ft above sea level isn't factored in. I would have to excavate to be 22ft above sea level. For this I pay extra taxes, insurance, and generally all cost of living expences.

504 · Oct 19, 2015

We had a similar deal after the 1993 flood,they decided it would be OK if he put steel bars around the bottom and then put hinged doors"steel siding covering the bars" behind them. It is all painted the same color and you really have to know they are there to see them.(the idea is to let water in and out and keep it weather tight till the next flood) Wait a year and put the doors up.

Ron-MO · Oct 19, 2015

Already sold the property over 10 years ago, and it was inspected by the buyer and/or lender. The buyer knew the building had a flat pad under it with no footings, and the building was not supported by the concrete, it was a pole barn structure built prior to when I purchased. Everyone was happy, or at least the buyer and seller, and that is all that mattered to me. And you would have to know the town I lived in, like many.......zoning and codes all depended on who you were, how much influence you had, etc. I lived next to property owned by the city which was zoned residential, but the city built a public restroom on that property, go figure. When questioned, they made the area a city park to go around zoning restrictions. Zoning in that city was all about the money and if they wanted to enforce it. I learned to ask no questions. Now I live out in the country, with no zoning. Don't get me wrong, I kept the property nice, and was in far better condition when I sold it than when I originally purchased, and it was worth about double my original purchase price due to improvements to the property. Agree there are reasons for building codes, but in that town, it is all about the dollars and who it benefits at the time.

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