Thanks for all replies and advice I decided I will buy a magnetic block heater and buy some fuel treatment I seen a gallon jug today for about 15 bucks at tsc and I will hopefully be have fuel delivered here if I can get a tank the fuel will come either one of the local co-op or a fuel place thanks again!
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Russ from MN
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If the equipment in out in the wind a magnetic heater won't do much good, they are only about 200 watts and the wind will blow the heat away. I have one that I use along with an immersion block heater, I put the magnetic one on the oil pan, and the tractor is in a tight garage. after 2-3 hours it starts like summer!
I never had much luck with the magnet heater. I have put the lower radiator hose heater on Five different small diesel engines. I plug it in an hour or so before I use it when its cold and it just seems to make it easier on everything. Not to mention I get heat quicker in my cab tractor. I get mine at TSC for 25-30 bucks. I always figured worst case scenario if it didn't work out I would have to replace the hose. Just my opinion.
Dieseltech
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I've never had much luck with the magnetic heaters either, just not hot enough. I prefer block heaters or the tank type, and use a heavy duty timer on my snowblower tractor. Depending on how cold two to three hours usually works well.
I second what double R said, I have 3 diesel tractors in the past, the farm owned a Ford 4600, Ford 4610 and I have a Ford 1720. The 4600 had a block heater, the 4610 had no heater and my 1720 has both glow plugs and a block heater. I bought the 4610 from the farm in 2008 and dident want to take the starter off to put in a block heater, so I put on a lower radatior hose heater from Katz, I plug the tractor in for a few hours before I need to run it. I also use power service in my fuel. We have also left the tractors plugged in all night, with no problems, in my opinion it's better to start a warm diesel than a cold one as far as engine wear goes.
Bryce Frazier
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Listen to these guys Nick, go with a block / cooling system heater... I have one on my Ford 4400 Back hoe, makes it start like it is 70 and sunny outside!!! Those magnet ones are a PITA, and don't put out that much heat in the first place...
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MarkB_MI
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Are you thinking of putting the magnetic heater on oil pan or on the fuel tank? If you winterize the fuel, there's no reason to heat it. And those magnetic heaters don't work that great on the oil pan, although they're better than nothing.
Nick I don't know where you are located, if you are north of the Mason Dixon line you better have winterized diesel delievered. I've been out along the road too many times--when people depended on that mouse pee called fuel treatment to get them thru the winter. It lowers the pour point of the fuel but not the cloud point, which is what you need lowered. If you are in north of Iowa, Ohio, Ill line you better run straight #1 fuel, if you have some left in the spring then pour the fuel conditioner in it. I never knew #1 fuel to have any antifungal treatment in it, some fuel treatment does. Fuel treatment is a very poor way to try to get thru the winter.
I tend to go the other way from the rest of the guys. I have had diesel engines for well over 40 years, and Dad had them before that. The last 10 years I have never run blended fuel in anything. This new junk the call diesel doesn't have any of the qualities the old stuff did.
I do run a fuel treatment year round. I run Howes, and have had a tractor gell with it, but the tractor had been sitting for 10 years before, so I don't think it was Howes fault.
If you are wanting some way of starting the engine, and are figuring on using the magnetic heater, save your time. The only place I ever use one is on a hydraulic tank on my loader, and I think that is a waste of time, and money, but it gives me the warm fuzzies thinking I am helping the pump.
I am a FIRM believer in block heaters, followed by a circulating tank heater, if you can't get a block heater put in.
I do run a fuel treatment year round. I run Howes, and have had a tractor gell with it, but the tractor had been sitting for 10 years before, so I don't think it was Howes fault.
If you are wanting some way of starting the engine, and are figuring on using the magnetic heater, save your time. The only place I ever use one is on a hydraulic tank on my loader, and I think that is a waste of time, and money, but it gives me the warm fuzzies thinking I am helping the pump.
I am a FIRM believer in block heaters, followed by a circulating tank heater, if you can't get a block heater put in.
Case Nutty 1660
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I have like you used additive,, others here call p*&& funny I bet it gets Way colder here in Wyoming than Iowa ect and all I have ran fro the last 25 years is #2 fuel from my farm tank adding additive at each filling,, my lot cleaning loader a 580CK sits out 50% of the time, and I leave at 1-3 am to clean it is always kept plugged in,, a block heater by the way, I do have the engine sides covered,,, but she starts right up and has Never gelled even at -35 below with 50 mph wind chills,, oh that's right some think wind chills do not matter,,, come on out to the plains and see if it matters,,, I will continue this way,, oh I also always make sure I keep the traps clear of any water,,, But where I use additive year around and pay attention to how I care for my fuel I have very little to drain,,,, I do see a high number of people here who do have gelling issues and they run blended fuel,, from getting them running again I see this as a lack of maintenance rather than a fuel issue
For me here in Northern Vermont I use a heater that goes in the cooling water system. It doesn't take long for the block to get nice abnd warm and makes it like a summer start. I also use a Stanadyne fuel line heater that works on 12 volts. This warms the fuel before entering the filter.
MarkB_MI
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>I also use a Stanadyne fuel line heater that works on 12 volts. This warms the fuel before entering the filter.
That is where I would put my money!
That is where I would put my money!
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