JD baler problems

oldtanker · Aug 12, 2015

327 baler with a model 30 bale ejector. The kicker foot doesn't reset. Has to be pulled back manually. Only thing I have to work with is the operators manual. I should say it isn't my baler so I don't have the repair manuals. l'm not buying repair manuals for something that isn't mine. I'm just trying to help my BIL and nephew out. Any advice would be of great help.

Thanks

Rick

DVF · Aug 12, 2015

There is a spring on the rear, not around the baler or would send you a picture that pulls that trip back, when broke that trip wont return. arm that activates the trip also may need to be adjusted.

DVF · Aug 12, 2015

left hand side you can see spring. hope the photo worked, lol

oldtanker · Aug 12, 2015

(quoted from post at 17:50:29 08/12/15) There is a spring on the rear, not around the baler or would send you a picture that pulls that trip back, when broke that trip wont return. arm that activates the trip also may need to be adjusted.

Nope spring is there. The kicker platform isn't returning to the armed (down) position. It trips fine. Just kicks the bale and stays up. There is a new spring in the one end of the hydraulic cylinder as of this morning.

Rick

DVF · Aug 12, 2015

then the arm needs to be adjusted. the yellow arm where it meets the arm on the kicker. pull the cotter pin and that has an adjustment in it. arm can also be adjusted. bad in writing and trying to explain

oldtanker · Aug 12, 2015

(quoted from post at 18:53:32 08/12/15) then the arm needs to be adjusted. the yellow arm where it meets the arm on the kicker. pull the cotter pin and that has an adjustment in it. arm can also be adjusted. bad in writing and trying to explain

We did adjust it according to the owners manual.

Thanks

Rick

Zeke Boniface · Aug 12, 2015

Does the pan hover in mid-air and draw down tractor engine?

PTO needs to always be at 540 rpm, a little faster might even be better, especially if the pump is getting weak. With distance control on 8, on a moderate uphill grade, kicker should throw the bale over the back of the wagon, break the bale on the back of the wagon, or, perhaps, throw the bale through the back of the wagon, then reset itself. Back off distance control as needed.

I have the service manuals, if needs be.

Zeke B.

DVF · Aug 12, 2015

have owned a 327 with the # 30 for 15 years, any problem I have ever had with what you are saying has been in those arms or spring. im sure you have but, take the whole arm off and trip it manualy, if it returns, you know your problem. again im sure you tried that.

oldtanker · Aug 12, 2015

(quoted from post at 20:13:02 08/12/15) Does the pan hover in mid-air and draw down tractor engine?

PTO needs to always be at 540 rpm, a little faster might even be better, especially if the pump is getting weak. With distance control on 8, on a moderate uphill grade, kicker should throw the bale over the back of the wagon, break the bale on the back of the wagon, or, perhaps, throw the bale through the back of the wagon, then reset itself. Back off distance control as needed.

I have the service manuals, if needs be.

Zeke B.

It kicks fine. Just doesn't return the kick platform to the down/ready position, kinda just hovers a little below full kick height.

Going to go back over all the adjustments again in the morning.

Rick

oldtanker · Aug 12, 2015

(quoted from post at 20:37:37 08/12/15) have owned a 327 with the # 30 for 15 years, any problem I have ever had with what you are saying has been in those arms or spring. im sure you have but, take the whole arm off and trip it manualy, if it returns, you know your problem. again im sure you tried that.

I didn't know it but they have been having problems with it for a couple of years. 2 of the adjustments call for a feeler gauge and they have never tried that. I think I'm going to go step by step and make all the adjustments by the book and see what we have.

Rick

Zeke Boniface · Aug 13, 2015

When mine hovers, it's because the pan hasn't quite reached the end of its travel. (Far enough to reset itself) It can still give a light bale something of a kick, though. Using the hand lever, trip the kicker empty at 540 rpm, then low rpm, and see if it makes a difference.

The other possibility is the trip cam adjustment, a lot to type out, and you'd really like a picture, but both should be in your owner's manual.

Zeke B.

steve terplak · Aug 13, 2015

When it kicks does it "wave"? Kinda of bounce as
it hovers? Sometimes the spring on the latching
mechanism can break which messes up the return.
Our NH #75 which, I believe, is then same as the
JD 30 was hanging up, one piece of advice we
received was to open the actuator valve (detent)
and grease this... We did this, did not solve our
problem, had to replace this piece and now ours
works fine.

Roger in Iowa · Aug 13, 2015

The spool in the valve is not going to the home position. Remove the detent cap on the end of the spool and clean/grease it.
Check other linkages to the spool that put the spool back to the home position.

steve terplak · Aug 13, 2015

Detent cap! That is the word I was looking for!

oldtanker · Aug 13, 2015

OK, we did grease the detent. What we found out talking to a guy at the Deere shop in Alexandria MN because of wear ignore the adjustments in the book and adjust things so that instead of an air gap it has zero clearance. Works as it should now.

Thanks for all of the advice!

Rick

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