Hazadrous material tax

37chief · Aug 6, 2015

No matter what I buy at my local welding supply store I am charged a hazardous material tax. I would like to know how a bottle of oxygen, is hazard. I bought two cut off wheels yesterday, and was charged a extra 1.00 tax. Max tax on any purchase is 11.00. How is the money going to stop my cutting wheels from polluting the air? I would like to know what happens to the money collected that goes to the state. (California) I think this is just another way to get money from us. Does your state have this tax? Stan

dr sportster · Aug 6, 2015

I have seen tax added to an oil change as " disposal fee". Which is annoying because they sell the waste oil.

W_B · Aug 6, 2015

Not that I know of for most things in Ohio. Sometimes the mechanic charges an environmental fee for disposal of tires or oil, but that seems to be about it. You are in CA so I guess I'm not surprised.

ss55 · Aug 6, 2015

Your supplier should be able to tell you where to find that information.

Nebraska Cowman · Aug 6, 2015

here you go Chief. CA has at least 5 hazard taxes. You can read through them as well as I can.
CA taxes list

sourgum · Aug 6, 2015

Chief, in IN we have a disposal fee on oil and tires. It might be called an environmental fee. Am not sure who gets our fees. We have solid waste districts here that can levy a tax. I think your state has more taxes than anywhere else.

ss55 · Aug 6, 2015

This is a bit off topic, but related.

With so many guys over-fertilizing marginal water-logged ground, how much longer will it be before there is an environmental tax on nitrogen fertilizers to pay for damages to downstream water supplies? Continually applying 200 to 300 pounds of nitrogen to 150 or 100 bushels per acre corn ground can't all be used by the corn crop. If a guy could develops a way to deliver 95% of applied nitrogen to the current year corn crop with little loss to ground water, he could make a lot of money. Are any Ag universities or Ag corporations doing research on that, Iowa State University?

Patsdeere · Aug 6, 2015

I have a couple of vendors at work that charge me a Hazardous material charge on things I buy and they say it is to help offset the cost of training for their drivers, doing the extra paperwork and offset some of the higher pay they have to pay drivers that carry hazmat. I would just ask. The worse case is they tell you to pound sand.

old · Aug 6, 2015

Guess that is part of the price of living where you do. No haz-mat tax in this area but then again we have sort of clean air and streams and not a bunch of tree huggers

Geo-TH,In · Aug 6, 2015

Yes, Indiana has a Hazadrous material tax too. What a joke.

37chief · Aug 6, 2015

That's a bunch all right. It's just like the storms that come from the west and go east. It wouldn't be long until some of the eastern states will take notice of the way California can generate more income, and try it also. Stan

Kent Petersen · Aug 6, 2015

If you would check on the price of nitrogen i think you will find you are barking up the wrong tree it is a fact that the turf industry ie lawns and golf courses use more fertilizer then the farmers in this country

Bernsy MN. · Aug 6, 2015

I don't know about that tax, but here in Minnesnowta we have a paint recovery fee tacked on to paint and stain. Bernsy

dbernie · Aug 6, 2015

Caution: I think I rambled on too much...
Just a thought,
but I think it is yet another example
of the rich getting richer,
and the working man carrying the weight.
Money goes to money.
A nephew of mine had a point when he had to go to CA,
he said no one even has a garage,
so they sit around and think about stuff,
and make up laws.
He told me that they could not believe the 'carbon fingerprint'
in other states, yet they don't understand it gets cold, and hot in other places.
Whatever, we just try to be stewards of the earth,
and let the 'great thinkers' tell us what we are wrong about.
Gotta laugh about it all, otherwise stroke or heart attack.
It's just whatever., I have some ideas for politicians,
but tho I won't ever act on them ideas,
I best not share them here,
HA HA
Proud to serve,
Danny

Jeremy in DE · Aug 6, 2015

(quoted from post at 20:39:07 08/06/15) This is a bit off topic, but related.

With so many guys over-fertilizing marginal water-logged ground, how much longer will it be before there is an environmental tax on nitrogen fertilizers to pay for damages to downstream water supplies? Continually applying 200 to 300 pounds of nitrogen to 150 or 100 bushels per acre corn ground can't all be used by the corn crop. If a guy could develops a way to deliver 95% of applied nitrogen to the current year corn crop with little loss to ground water, he could make a lot of money. Are any Ag universities or Ag corporations doing research on that, Iowa State University?

The nutrient management rules on the Delmarva are pretty strict. Hopefully they never move toward a tax as well.

I don't have the numbers are nitrogen conversion, but I know they work hard here to keep it as high as they can. Here's an article about Illinois farmers visiting Delaware farmers. One quote: "the common practice in Illinois is to put on all the crop’s nitrogen before planting. Evans [who farms near me in DE] told the group he can apply nitrogen as a many as seven times during the growing season depending on crop needs."

http://www.americanfarm.com/publica...is-visitors-tour-soybean-operations-in-md-del

Alan K · Aug 6, 2015

I saw that posted in a Bomgaars store here in SW MN. Wonder if the money actually goes for what it is supposed to....

john in la · Aug 6, 2015

Hazadrous material tax money is suppose to go to cleaning up waste sites.

Bryan inIowa · Aug 6, 2015

Here in Iowa . not sure if it is state, or county rule, we have to pay to have used oil filters picked up . 25-50 bucks a drum .Usually that cost is passed on as a hazmat, or disposal fee. Most shops tack on a buck for it . Tires cost shops $1.50 to get rid of , going up soon . Buddy of mine has waste oil and filter recovery business. He picks up used filters , gets paid for picking them up . He has a huge shredder and another machine that makes cubes out of the metal . He sells the cubes . Pretty sweet , getting paid for your raw materials .

caterpillar guy · Aug 6, 2015

Most places I think have an environmental fee for most things like that. The one that always got me was the shop supplies charge. You know they figured those costs in when they were figuring the shop rate in the first place.
For the old oil and fuel filters why not burn them then send them for scrap. The oil is gone and just the metal left.

Jerry F · Aug 6, 2015

For the time being I am stuck in Calif. My welding supply store will waive all the enviro taxes if I ask him too. He said its not mandatory. He is not the owner of store though, just manages it.

GeneMO · Aug 6, 2015

Move

Gene

ss55 · Aug 7, 2015

Or instead of burning them they could do like people used to do, throw the old filters in a neighbor's road ditch, and save the environmental clean-up fee that way, LOL.

ObsoElitist · Aug 7, 2015

(quoted from post at 09:33:37 08/06/15) I have seen tax added to an oil change as " disposal fee". Which is annoying because they sell the waste oil.

Not in Ca. They paid for it long ago, but now you have to pay to get rid of it, and put the filters in a sealed barrel and pay for that too. One guy I know adapted an old woodstove to burn his shop's waste oil, but before they made that illegal without exhaust filtration.
I believe all that money is going into a useless bullet train, and levees for homes built in flood plains.

ObsoElitist · Aug 7, 2015

ObsoElitist · Aug 7, 2015

(quoted from post at 19:50:50 08/06/15) Move

Gene

To where? All the wimps have and are probably working on making your town like San Francisco. Good riddance. I will stand and fight.

MN Scott · Aug 7, 2015

We have a new tax on paint here in MN. Supposed to pay for dealing with leftover paint I guess. $1.50 a gallon.

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