Battery trouble

bigboreG

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So I bought a new battery from Arnold Motor Supply for one of my tractors. It's the parts master store brand. 800 CCA 12 V. My tractor has a generator which charges good, but the other day my son left the key on and ran the battery down to dead. I charged it on trickle all night and put it back in next morning. But before I could even get the tractor started it ran down , in about 15 seconds time . So I tested it and it showed only 10 volts. I think the battery has a bad cell. How do you think they will treat me on warranty? I have a good relationship with the store , I get all my machine work done there as well. The battery is only a month old BTW.
 
(quoted from post at 09:10:22 07/26/15) So I bought a new battery from Arnold Motor Supply for one of my tractors. It's the parts master store brand. 800 CCA 12 V. My tractor has a generator which charges good, but the other day my son left the key on and ran the battery down to dead. I charged it on trickle all night and put it back in next morning. But before I could even get the tractor started it ran down , in about 15 seconds time . So I tested it and it showed only 10 volts. I think the battery has a bad cell. How do you think they will treat me on warranty? I have a good relationship with the store , I get all my machine work done there as well. The battery is only a month old BTW.

How many amps is your trickle charger?

Typical 2 amp trickle charger overnight [12 hr] is only 24 amp hr probably not even half charged for that size of battery if it was completely dead.

Is it a sealed battery? if not how is the fluid level in the cells?

Have you tested your charging system?
Too high voltage can boil out the fluid.

You said you tested the battery and it showed 10 volt.
Was this a reading during a load test or just a static meter reading?

Warranty wise they will likely charge and test it themselves before doing an adjustment.
If you take it in low on fluid they will likely say you overcharged it and deny warranty.

Otherwise as long as there is no physical damage to it and it fails there testing you should receive an adjustment.

I would make sure it was properly charged before spending the time to remove it and take it in.
 
If it's charged all night at 5 amps it should be pretty well charged by morning. I've done business with Arnold's almost exclusively for the past 45 years and they have always treated me very well with returns. Never have used one of their batteries though.
 
Trickle charge overnite will not charge the batt if it was dead you have an 800cca bat it needs more than a trickle charge.
 
Use a hydrometer to check specific gravity of each cell and compare the readings. Should be in the 1.275 range. Hal
 
The charger is a 5 amp . I can't check the cells as it is sealed up. It's not been overcharged I have checked the system before, it stays around 13.8 V . Jim , Arnolds has always treated me well too. I'm not real worried about it , just curious as to what others think about the battery.
 
Oh and I load tested it. I have semi
batteries in most of the other tractors ,
bought a pallet of them at an auction for a
good price. Those have all been trouble
free. I couldn't put one this tractor
though for size requirements.
 
You need to know the charging voltage of battery when it has been on like overnight. If it is not up to 14.5 it is still taking a charge OR DEFECTIVE. Most 5 amp chargers cut way back as the charge starts to come up so it is going to more than likely take much longer than over night to fully charge. You won't over charge it with the 5 amp charger because on that size battery with that low a charge rate it won't hurt it even if the voltage gets a little higher than 14.5. After charging, pull surface voltage off with a 50 amp draw for a few seconds, then let it sit a while to check no load voltage, then you can load test it if it passes these tests. Actually I would have thought overnight would have brought it up better than it apparently did so does not sound good for battery. I will add though that one of the biggest problems with charging is they don't get fully charged before you put them back into service and hope the charging system will finish the job and they often never do obtain full charge after that.
 
I have handled a lot of batteries over my time on the road. Sometimes you get one that is bad from the start.If they know you as a good customer. Shouldn't be a problem taking it back.
 
Why not take battery to Auto zone of Napa and have them charge it and load test it, usually free? I'm thinking it will take a more than over night charging with a trickle charger.
 

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