Do you like to garden???

JD Seller

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I know that many of you love to garden and have beautiful plants/gardens. I HATE to fool with a garden. I HAD TO work in gardens when I was a kid. You take my Mother's and then my Grand Mother's gardens, there was always weeds and hoeing that needed to be done. Just lots of back breaking work. The produce was and is good but to me it is just not worth the work involved. I plant sweet corn at the start of the corn field. It is just thrown into the bottom of the outside boxes until it is gone. Then we just treat it like all the other field corn. I used to plant a few tomatoes around the house but they have not done very well the last few years so I quit doing even that. So I just watch and buy what I want from the local produce growers. I would rather go do something else to make money and PAY them for their produce. Now with my first wife I did not have that option. She demanded we have a large garden. So I was once again the "slave" labor doing some thing I disliked.

So am I the only one here that does not like to garden???
 
Water is too expensive here in the desert, unless you live in an irrigation district and have irrigation rights to use water from the reservoirs. Ground water isn't all that good for irrigation.
 
JD Seller- I also felt very much like you. I HATED the garden! My parents got me up a day-break to work in the garden.

Dad ran the tiller between the rows and it was up to me to pull weeds and hoe everything else.

At that time I really despised the 'Garden'. Seems I was either hoeing, weeding or picking green beans. I would watch my Dad pack a bucket of water from the creek to ladle a couple of cups of water on each plant. Then, back to the creek he would go to get another bucket of water.. He would do this for a few hours each day.

I swore to myself that I would NEVER do what he did!

Then in my 30's, something just hit me...I built a green house, grew plants from seedlings and started producing. Dad, Mom and I canned a lot of produce, raised and butchered hogs, beef, chickens, turkey plus, keep bee hives. All the while keeping the garden going.

I learned a lot from my Mom and Dad. I have shelves stocked full of canned produce from over the years. Heck, some of it even dates to back to 1994! It's still good to eat.

Dad passed in 2002. At that time I inherited 2 pressure canners. One from my paternal grandparents and one from my maternal grandparents. I can still buy gaskets/rubber ring seals for those old pressure canners!

Since then, I have purchased two more pressure canners.

Now, to answer your question on what I think about it,,, Yes, it is a lot of work. Yes, it is cost effective to buy it versus your income..

But, to me, it is the nostalgia and pride in something that my parents, grand-parents did to feed their families and it just seems something that I want to carry on.

BTW, my offspring has no inkling of ever wanting to learn about this even though I have offered to teach this way of storing food.

Some from this site post gorgeous pics of their garden. My rows aren't straight and some weeds grow in the balk.

I think I do the "garden' to full-fill my parents wish to learn.

Mom and and Dad are passed but I will still keep raising and canning from the garden.
 
I love to garden and so does my wife as she cans,freezes,dries etc many different fruits and vegetables.Also hate the poor quality tasteless food that's sold in grocery stores.
Gardening for me is pretty easy as I've built up my soil in the garden with old hay,manure,cover crops and things like Planters II,Greensand etc.I plant my rows 6 ft apart so I'm able to cultivate with a tiller behind a garden tractor then only have a very narrow strip where the row is to pull the soil up to cover the in row weeds which can mostly can be done with my Hines H-1600 with its disc hillers.I give much of the credit of my wife and myself having very few health problems to the fresh high quality no chemical vegetables we grow and eat.
 
I like the garden for the fresh stuff. As kids we had to take care of two large gardens also, but once the plants were up my dad would bring home a load of sawdust from the mill and we would mulch to keep weeds down, after he sold the mill we used straw. Cut down on the work. Now around here you need a good fence or it is an open deer salad bar so we have plants in pots on the deck.
 
For me the first rule of gardening is that you do it because you like doing it. Food doesn't cost that much overall in this country to do something you don't like doing. I grew up in a family that grew a garden, canned and froze vegetables, made jam, pickles, etc and I do the same thing today and now 61 years old.For me there is a lot of satisfaction when I put a seed in the ground and end up with something good for my family to eat. I can often sit down to a meal that was totally raised by me and while my wife thinks I'm nuts it gives me a good feeling of accomplishment in a world where you can give a 100% and still have nothing.In my garden I'm the boss and when the boss eventually does something stupid I can't blame anyone else.
 
I like to garden (or did until this year when everything's flooded out) because it's a chance to play with small tractor toys. For instance I have two Simplicity walk behind 2 wheel tractors that I enjoy. Like you I didn't like gardening as a kid, everything was slow and by hand.

I have a question, when you plant sweet corn along the edge of a cornfield what happens if it gets sprayed with Round Up? (glycospate sp?)
 
I have some not so good memories of hoeing in the garden as a kid. We always have a garden though. Not real big though and its my wives responsibility. I'll spread a little manure on it and work it when I happen to be driving by it with a piece of tillage equipment on the tractor. But other than that its hers. I will assist a little with the Troy-Bilt tiller getting it running for her. She also has strawberry patch, asparagus patch, raspberries', and some fruit trees. She does a good job and I do enjoy the fruits of her labor.
I guess I'm lucky. You don't find too many 66 year old women that will get on her hands and knees and pull weeds. I know I won't do it.
 
I do like a small vegetable garden, as there is just nothing better than to be able to go out the back door to my small patch that is in view of the kitchen and dining room windows, to pick fresh produce. Its a manageable size, but can be work if you let it. I try to put in as much variety as I can fit, so its all there within the fence.

I do plant extra when I have time, that is more work, but to get by, the small patch is easy for me, so at minimum, I always have that.

I can til this garden with the troy bilt horse, I add compost made from my firewood sawdust and I'll call it guano, (have a few pet voles). Soil seems to be good, PH neutral per the the test. Once the soil bed is tilled, and as I do that, I will rake up the sides, its a raised bed of sorts. I then use the earthway planter to plant sweet corn on the side close to the house, then lay a couple of planks in between where the rows will be, use a hand post hole digger, take 2 bites out of each hole, then drop the plants in, and back fill. I used to drop a little dried blood and bone meal in each hole, but some darned critter will come in and dig them up, so I just spread it on the surface before a rain or watering.

Ahead of time, I'll cut the grass here and across the road, I lay it in swaths with the deck by how I cut it. I leave that to dry, or get it close, so its easier to handle. Most times its like nice fresh green hay, I can smell it in the house, more so when piled. I then collect it with a lawn sweep, pile outside the garden fence, then pitch in where needed. My garden was late this year, but its in, and I will cheat by buying a few mature plants as well. I just mulched it yesterday before a nice soaking rain, with a thick layer of that nice green and sweet smelling dry hay like grass, which mind you is loaded with nitrogen given what I have seen with using it around sweet corn. It also will keep the soil moist, prevent erosion too. There will be NO weeding, no hoeing, no extra work, except to manage the tomatoes, trellis or get them onto stakes, cages etc. I do water this garden as needed, but with mulch down, the soaking rain will last quite awhile if I do not, so there might be a few periods of hot dry weather. I don't get any growth of weeds using grass mulch, though you might get a scant few poking through in a season, its nothing to speak of as far as work is concerned. Once done, just watch it grow, water and fertilize as necessary. The only issue I have seen is powder mold on the cucumber leaves, but I think that either spread from some nearby peonies or possibly the grass mulch mold, hard to say which if any. Only other issue I have seen was horn worms on tomatoes. Worst case I turn on the floodlights on the house, go out at night (when they are active) and remove them by hand, then till in the late fall to break the cycle + there is a wasp that lays eggs on them, kills them off and makes new wasps ! I have not had those in years now though.


The enjoyment is the best produce, I know whats in it, nothing is sprayed, organic fertilizer is used, the only real but limited work is tilling, planting and closing up the fence.

Take a small patch, address the soil needs, mulch with a thick layer of grass, you'll have good plants. Even a couple of big planters, you can grow anything in those, patio tomato plants are nice in those, so are cherry tomatoes, easy to maintain, not hard to work once set up.

It takes me 2 hours to plant, an hour to till, an hour to mulch, and an hour to cage or string up a trellis, the rest is just watching it grow and harvesting the produce. I'll keep rotating greens through, by alternating small areas. any unplanted areas are covered with thick mulch until used.
 
When I was young I didnt like weed pulling either,,,but that didnt stop my father from vlunteering me to help my grandmother in the garden when his stepfather passed away. So ,,,like it or not I Had to go to grandmas and work the garden,My brother was older and worked better,so he stayed home at the farm.Truth is,,I got the better deal,grandma took got care of me! Good food,and didnt make me work in the hot sun,only thing,,,had to watch Lawrence Welch at night,,,lol.,,,,,Heres how the garden bug hit me,,,it was late fall grandma said we need to pick all tomatoes ,bring them in the house so she could wrap each one in newspaper ,and put them in a brown paper bag. She was wrapping some in the house while I was still picking,a friend peddled up on his bicycle,said lets go,I said ,I cant go,got to pick tomatoes,,He grabbed a tomato threw it at me,I Threw one back,,
(you know where this is headed) A while later grandma came out,,,,,I still remember it clear as day,,she didnt hit me,,I wish she had,it would of hurt less than the tears of dissapointment in her eyes. My friend left,I helped her picked the rest of the tomatoes,,while she explained that these green tomatoes wont ripen properly unless we wrap them in newspaper and put them in a brown bag. We will be glad to have these later on.Much later well into winter grandma had a family dinner at her house,,During dinner she announced the tomatoe in the salad is from Larrys garden.The next season,and every season after that until she passed,I Really got serious about the garden,and learned a lot from her,,,,Thank you grandma!
 
I like doing it. Mainly to make sure the large produce grower in the area don't get the whole pie(all the money) from selling produce. The second thing is I know what if anything was dumped on for chemicals.

As for working it most of the work here is done with tractors, other than picking. Have a small seed planter mounted on the Farmall A. Peas go in with a grain drill. Beans we found out work good in the corn planter. With the greenhouse we have lots of plants to put in. To make that easy we have two different trans-planters; one that mounts on the C(don't use much anymore), the other a pull type. Either is a three person job to run. If the weeds don't come out with the tractor's cultivator they stay. The problem is animals try to steal a lot of it.

When the crop is ready, pick by hand. This is the hard part, but its good conversation time with anyone around. Then we try to sell as much as possible at market. The left overs either get used by us(can/freeze/fresh), given a way(neighbors/pantry), tossed in the spreader or given to the critters in the barn.
 
My father-in-law always had a big garden and it was in poor dirt. I can't raise a garden in good dirt. Its a long ways from the top of my list of thing to do.
 
I despise gardening, I hate it, I loath it! I blame my Dad for that! He always had twice as much as we needed, and gave half of it away. I looked at it as I had to work twice as hard, for somebody else to enjoy the benefits of my had work without so much as a thank you! As I got out on my own, I had a very small garden, and only had what I knew I would eat in a few months. The older I got, the more garden I had, and the more work I did. I hated it, but enjoyed the food, and the time I spent with my wife. We went to a local farmers market, and I haven't picked up a hoe since! I can buy anything I need or want there, all for about the same price as I could grow it, sometimes counting my time sometimes not. I can get more than I could grow at one time, and it all can go into jars or the freezer, just like when I grew it. Best part is Im supporting the local farmers and those with a little extra in their gardens, and Im not killing myself doing it!! I did help my neighbor with his garden until he passed away, and he shared with me, and I have a couple of tomato plants each year, well, not this year.
 
Your story brings back memories for me as my grandmother lived with us and she and I were thick as theives.When we weren't doing farm work I helped her in the garden,helped her dry apples on screens,I got the cows in and we milked them worked hard but had a great time/life,loved those fried dried apple pies too. She died at age 93 in 1995 still miss her.
 
I enjoy the Garden, mine is smaller now, but it relaxes me to keep it clean and to watch it grow. I go there first thing every morning to fiddle with it and see how things have changed. I have always had one, it was much larger when all the kids were growing up, and since I was the oldest of 8 I helped my Mother with one from the time I was old enough to pull a weed. It seems that when we start out very young working .. we seem to want to work even more...
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When I was 20, in the army, living off post, the neighbor farmer needed help making hay. We stopped for lunch. Everything we ate was from the farm. Beef, fresh vegetables,milk from the cooler. My normal diet was fast and junk food. After lunch walking out of the house I felt like a new person. The change was amazing!
 
The deer; coons; and rabbits like it when I garden.
So I have grown to hate it.

As a teen threw high school up until I went into the service I use to garden commercially.
I was a supplier to 2 garden centers for tomato; pepper; and eggplant transplants.

I also propagated marigolds in pursuit of growing a pure white marigold.
Then in my senior year in high school some widow in Iowa beat me to it.
 
We were allowed to plant potatoes over at the neighbors garden. It was only about 100 yds away. I don't remember who else had to tend them, but I know I was one of them. At harvest time we got one small potato from almost every hill. All work , no reward.
So I am a no
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Looks like our Gardens are about the same size Larry...and i have a Troy built tiller too...
 
I have one at the house that's 60x150. it has all the regular garden thing in it. that one is spotless. no weeds. thanks to the troy bilt tiller. then theres the one at the farm 3 miles down the road, 140x 250 1/2 sweet corn and 1/2 potatos. its all cultivated with the farmall A. its not so clean. do I love the garden yes. Bob
 
I dislike gardening also. The tractors needed are just to small and most garden seeds are not Roundup ready. :)^D
 
gtractorfan, Not all the corn planted is Roundup ready corn. Only about half of mine is round up ready. So we just use more conventional herbicides.
 
Larry, I first planted tomatoes with my grandad, near our old milkhouse, which is the only building still standing today, from this farm. Mind you its got a tarp on it right now. It has significance to me and I will put a roof on it. Nice little patch of dirt near the wellhead there. Parents were away, it was just him and I that day as his wife and my grandmother had passed in December of '69. I still plant tomatoes up on this hill, about 200 yds away from that soil patch which is still intact from those days. I learned about life and death that day, as something had happened to one of our cats, a gray and black striped one. It was dead and had lacerations on the side of its head, like something with claws got it. Might have been run over by him or was in the engine compartment. I knew it had just died when I saw it, and I suppose I'll never really know for sure what happened. He and I buried it, also made a cross and placed it over the grave. I had never seen anything die or dead yet being young, but I understood this somehow. He never said all that much as I recall, about either as we worked digging in the soil. I learned more that one day with him then in years to follow. I never got much time with him like that, as he foolishly did not take his BP meds after a vacation when he first retired. He had a debilitating stroke that was followed with 5 years of just visitations after before he passed away.
 
My wife and I have always enjoyed the garden. Through the 1990's , when our kids where little, money was tight.The garden gave us the good food we could not afford to buy. While we had about 25 cows milking, it was not near enough to live on. So I expanded our garden to 4 acres. Bought a transplanter and a IH super A, and started to do market gardening all for road side/farm gate sales. Again, my wife and I loved doing this, and it gave us the extra cash to make life much nicer. And our kids got to earn money too ,picking and selling produce. Good family time. Still grow a kitchen garden, and looking forward to my senior years, and hoping to be able to enjoy the good health necessary to be able to grow vegetable, and flower gardens.
 
Young children learning to work together from the beginning is something that is needed more than ever..you can not let children run a-muk till they are 18 and then say "Ok, now go get a job",, Discipline and good work habits from the start is what is needed, and a Garden is a good place to start.. When My Brother and I were young if we couldn't carry 2 full buckets of feed we carried 2 half buckets of feed, then we would see how far we could get before we had to set them down to rest...and like Forrest Gump would say "That's all I have to say about that"....
 
(quoted from post at 21:53:17 06/27/15) I know that many of you love to garden and have beautiful plants/gardens. I HATE to fool with a garden. I HAD TO work in gardens when I was a kid. You take my Mother's and then my Grand Mother's gardens, there was always weeds and hoeing that needed to be done. Just lots of back breaking work. The produce was and is good but to me it is just not worth the work involved. I plant sweet corn at the start of the corn field. It is just thrown into the bottom of the outside boxes until it is gone. Then we just treat it like all the other field corn. I used to plant a few tomatoes around the house but they have not done very well the last few years so I quit doing even that. So I just watch and buy what I want from the local produce growers. I would rather go do something else to make money and PAY them for their produce. Now with my first wife I did not have that option. She demanded we have a large garden. So I was once again the "slave" labor doing some thing I disliked.

So am I the only one here that does not like to garden???

Same boat here. I hate to garden. Was forced to as a kid. Was tuff in town watching my friends out playing ball from the garden while I worked.

Rick
 
Great minds think alike :).... My idea of picking corn and picking beans is to walk down the produce aisle and pick out the corn and beans I want. Every year when I was a kid my mom would plant this giant garden and every August my dad would bush hog down the giant weed patch that had grown up in the back yard.
 
Living on a farm and buying vegetables??? No way. Not this guy. Although I have enough to keep busy farming crops and cattle I still carry on the tradition of my dad and grandfather growing potatoes, beans, peas, tomatoes on the same ground that they did. I enjoy the work and the results. It is sometimes more rewarding than the field crops where you put a small fortune into the ground and some years don't make enough off the crop to pay the expenses.
I also like that I know where the vegetables have come from and what chemicals they have (none) been exposed to. The early potatoes are blooming here and hopefully in a couple of weeks I can sample them and start throwing out last year's leftovers.
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I don't like to garden either. Goes back to when I was a little kid and turned over my Mom's 40x80 garden with a garden spade every spring. Then hoed and pulled weeds all summer. She grew some dill for her canning and I couldn't stand the smell of it then and still can't today.
 
Rusty- that is a beautiful pic. I have just been staring at it since you posted it. The colors, angle, everything. It's just a great pic!

Thanks for sharing it.
 
Thanks Greg. I liked the angle and the lighting. I just set the camera on timer on a bale and went ahead roto tilling. Hard to imagine I was trying to dry out the soil enough to plant potatoes back in April. Now they need the sprinkler set up to relieve the heat stress of these 80+ days.
 
I truly enjoy my gardening. I dedicated most of my back yard to garden. Flowers along one fence line, vegetables in the middle, and grape vines and equipment sheds on the other side. Also keep my perennials in the flower bed.
While it may be cheaper, simpler, and easier to just buy what you need, you are also missing out on a lot of flavor and nutrition.
I also do volunteer work on a "stricter than organic" farm. When I get asked at the markets that we sell at, I rarely have to defend our prices. MY produce has flavor. It has not been exposed to harsh chemical fertilizers, bug sprays, or any other unnatural materials.
What you buy in the supermarket was grown probably thousands of miles away, forces fed too much chemical fertilizer, overwatered, and shipped in from who knows where. If that is what you want on your table, you are welcome to it. After all, somebody has to buy that stuff. Myself, I say you cannot beat the taste of fresh picked vegetable from the garden a few yards outside your back door.
Over the years, I have found a lot of ways to combat common garden problems. Due to critters eating and damaging too much, I put an electric fence around my garden. Due to watering issues, I installed drip irrigation. Now I can water the whole garden with a single faucet, and get the water where it will do the most good - right at the root line of the plants. Weeds were a big problem for years. So, I started using a weed barrier fabric. Keeps the weeds down, warms the soil, and helps it to retain the water.
All in all, you simply cannot beat the taste of a fresh picked summer tomato. Peas, beans, cucumbers, peppers, broccoli, and carrots all have better flavor when they come from the garden. My garden is my favorite thing on my property.
 

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