I thought we might get a list and see what manufacturer did what. I know Massey Harris had the first successful self propelled combine, Ferguson invented the modern side delivery rake, and of course Ferguson will get the firsts for a lot of the 3pt hitch implement firsts...but what was some others? I know Oliver should have some as they were far ahead of their time on a lot of stuff. IH was in the picture from the start so they should have some.
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Married2Allis
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I believe IH had the first hydrostatic tractor in 1967 with the 656.
The SOS was power shift not hydro.
Cat: 1st with turbo on the AG model Cats around 1953, also AG Cats had the first diesel around 1933
Ford Ferguson: 1st long term successful implement mount system, the 3 point
AC: I believe they had the first rubber tired tractor
But the important thing isn't who did what but more that it happened in the first place. Something like the Fast Hitch or Snap Coupler that never really succeeded isn't worth mentioning. But IPTO, live hydraulics, 3 point, rubber and other things are still with us and going strong.
Rick
Richard G.
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JD H had first live hydraulics if I am not mistaken.
Richard in NW SC
Richard in NW SC
I agree with rrlund. Each had contributions to what we use today. Im into MM so I know what MM had: First fully enclosed factory production cabs, From what I have researched first to have all controls grouped on a console (G1000 Vista) Factory front wheel assist (Oliver was close to the same time as well) and a few other things. I think IH was the first to offer a type of power shift with the TA. Oliver I think was the first to offer electric hydraulics with the Hydra-lectric set up. Massey Harris had the first 4wd if I remember correctly.
Case Nutty 1660
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I agree Every mfg made a number of intro's,,,,, CASE as well first tractor loader backhoe all built by the same company, first with hyd leveling loader bucket, first to combine the already made parts into a working thresher in one machine, first with "on-the go_ combine adjustments, concave clearance, reel/pickup speeds, quick drop concave, first to use a V-8 engine in a combine, there are many more just a few,,,
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Ted in NE-OH
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Allis Chalmers --First rubber tires on tractors.
Well I hoped that we could have a nice discussion without people getting mad...lol. Me personally I'm a Ferguson and Massey Ferguson person. I know a lot about those brands but I know there are lots of others on here that specialize in one brand and know all about them. I'm really interested in the implement side of things.
OK,if it's implements you're looking for,a lot of those were outside inventors or short line companies.
Did Massey Harris have the first self propelled combine or did the Baldwin Brothers? Massey got way ahead during WW2 when their Harvest Brigade convinced the War Board to allocate the steel to build more of them.
The Tallman Brothers put a pickup in a hay press and made the first square baler that picked the hay up in the field. Oliver bought them out later on.
A guy by the name of Leuben I think it was,invented the small round baler. Allis bought that patent. Vermeer patented the large round baler. That's why New Holland used chains for so long. They refused to pay a royalty to Vermeer for the use of the patented belt type round baler.
Kuhn invented the disc mower,or patented it anyway.
For all the crap about Deeres bent saw blade,James Oliver invented and patented the chilled plow process that made mass production and use of cast plows possible. Other companies just used his patented process.
I'm sure there are a bunch more that didn't come from the big tractor manufacturers,but I need to get back out to the field.
Did Massey Harris have the first self propelled combine or did the Baldwin Brothers? Massey got way ahead during WW2 when their Harvest Brigade convinced the War Board to allocate the steel to build more of them.
The Tallman Brothers put a pickup in a hay press and made the first square baler that picked the hay up in the field. Oliver bought them out later on.
A guy by the name of Leuben I think it was,invented the small round baler. Allis bought that patent. Vermeer patented the large round baler. That's why New Holland used chains for so long. They refused to pay a royalty to Vermeer for the use of the patented belt type round baler.
Kuhn invented the disc mower,or patented it anyway.
For all the crap about Deeres bent saw blade,James Oliver invented and patented the chilled plow process that made mass production and use of cast plows possible. Other companies just used his patented process.
I'm sure there are a bunch more that didn't come from the big tractor manufacturers,but I need to get back out to the field.
Bruce from Can.
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AC had the round baler, even if they bought the design. I understand that it was the first baler you could
take to the field ,and bale from the windrow. All square balers before had to be fed as stationary units.
take to the field ,and bale from the windrow. All square balers before had to be fed as stationary units.
Allis Chalmers is the brand that holds the land speed record for farm tractors. This was an AC model U on rubber tires. Allis & Firestone were promoting the use of rubber tires instead of steel wheels on farm tractors. Record was set in 1934 on a race track at speeds reaching 65 mph. Tractor had a special high speed road gear in transmission.
Traditional Farmer
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I don't know about the round ones but wasn't IH the first to try square wheels?(LOL)
This is always a funny to me subject as id the tractor company praise/bash thing.
It doesn't really matter who had the first live or IPTO only that it happened. Doesn't matter who had the first diesel, only that it happened. And the list goes on. And the companies that fell by the wayside never ever made the best because if they had that's what enough people would have purchased thereby keeping said company alive. And a lot of companies got bought out or failed through the years. Heck if they were the best everyone would have copied them and no further development would have taken place. There were a lot of good tractors made through the years in a lot of different colors. A lot of new technology was and continues to be developed too. I don't want to go back to the good old days.
Rick
It doesn't really matter who had the first live or IPTO only that it happened. Doesn't matter who had the first diesel, only that it happened. And the list goes on. And the companies that fell by the wayside never ever made the best because if they had that's what enough people would have purchased thereby keeping said company alive. And a lot of companies got bought out or failed through the years. Heck if they were the best everyone would have copied them and no further development would have taken place. There were a lot of good tractors made through the years in a lot of different colors. A lot of new technology was and continues to be developed too. I don't want to go back to the good old days.
Rick
tomstractorsandtoys
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Not sure if first but Allis Chalmers put no-till farming where it is today,they even experimented with a no-till grain drill. John Deere had the first bale ejecter for the 14T baler. Tom
Athol Carr
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Sunshine in Australia had a T front self-propelled combine in 1924, well ahead of Massey Harris. Massey harris took shares in Sunshine about 1930 to avoid import restrictions in Australia. The Sunshine Auto-Header was update in 1837 and lasted in production until 1946
Athol Carr
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New Holland had a pick-up baler in the 1930s, IH had the No 15 pick-up baler by the very early 1940s (developed from the No 15 Hay-press) and the Model M baler about the same time. The IH No 50 pick-up baler was also about mid-1940s ahead of the Allis Chalmers Roto-Baler
Eldon (WA)
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Allis Chalmers also held the patent on power adjust rear wheels.
T in NE
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Lueben did patent the roto-baler. They have one at Pioneer Village in Minden.
If I felt like starting my computer up I could get you a picture of it.
If I felt like starting my computer up I could get you a picture of it.
buickanddeere
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Don't know if it has been mentioned yet. The Canadian Cockshutt has the first live pto.
buickanddeere
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http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/6/5/655-cockshutt-30.html
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