OEM Filters

I hope this doesn't turn into a cat fight, but...

Simple yes or no question:

Do you use OEM filters on your equiment. IOW, if you have a John Deere, do you go to the John Deere Dealer and buy oil/air/fuel/hydraulic/trans filters? Case/IH from Case, etc. etc.

I do have a reason for posting this besides kicking over an anthill, so I'll let this cook for a while before I post my opinion/practice.

i like to use jd oil and filters. in my ford and massey tractors i use there filters and jd oil even though i have used napa 15 w40 in my ford tractors in trucks i usevalvoloine synthic and i wont use a cheep oil filter my thoughts.

If I happen to be at the dealer for something else when I need filters, I'll probably get OEM filters there. But the 2 dealers I usually go to are 50 and 60 miles away respectively, so I sometimes also use a very reputable, tried and true, aftermarket brand, which is available much closer at considerably less cost. I don't know how much this helps in the destruction of your anthill, but that's my answer and I'm stickin' to it.

Tom

Sometimes.

Depends.

Dean

If I am at CNH they will put Fleet Pride on the counter. We are fortunate here that someone will put up results of independent laboratory test of filters so that we can know what brand to get to insure that we get better performance than OEM.

I use mostly Wix filters. Sometimes Fleetguard. All my grease/oils comes from a petroleum distributor.

I try to get them when ever possible but some OEM filters are just to high for older equipment. My 96 Ford 7.3 gets Ford filters (there cheapest at Wal-Mart) but my Oliver's (3) all use the same filters and the ones from Agco are $14 each so they get Fram filters @ $4.59 each and with only 40 to 50 hours a year they work fine. It's like buying a dist cap and rotor button from JD for a 95 combine with a 303 engine $92 for the pair, I only did that once in a pinch but it will never happen again. Most of the time aftermarket is just as good, But sometimes OEM is the way to go. The bottom line is still the bottom line and you just cant throw money away. Bandit

I have at times, done that, but mostly try to meet the specifications called for, so I try to use the best filters I'm aware of for the application, same with the oils or lubricants, with the main goal of adhering to what the manufacturer calls for, as best I can. I don't know that by doing this and in comparison with using alternate or as equal, both filters, oils, and or lubricants, that there is a significant difference within what I have. I'm not an OEM fanatic, kind of a stickler for maintenance, again, as best I can. Its good to be "conscientious" about it as I see it.

I use oem parts on my '08 JD lawn tractor, bought a more expensive strong box battery for it in '11, 5th year now, so that's potentially 4 regular lawn and garden tractor batteries as many get one season out of them, I got three out of the one that came with it. It was kept charged off season, as I do start this tractor monthly off season, and run it a 1/2 hour or so. Filter, mower blades, are JD, oil is not, 160+ hours now, surprisingly trouble free.

I have a Stihl chainsaw, MS390, I did a refurb on it, all new plastic, OEM stihl parts, but also run all their products in it, chains, sprockets, bars, oil and oil mix for fuel. I've never had the engine apart in it so far, no scoring or much wear in the bore and or piston, starts well for the most part, runs fine and now looks brand new again. It's done 5 cord a year, for 7 years now on average, trimming and clean up for 6 before that, so its not seen daily use, but its sort of a hobby and its fun to pick one thing and do this sort of thing, as if you have the brand as a sponsor. Main thing is that its performed as needed, no matter what label is on it, but its enjoyable as I like the work.

Farmer I used to help had mostly JD equipment, though he's had other brands, it was a mainstay, and he used many of their products as I saw when working with him, so he was brand loyal in a sense. He was not keen in later years on their shop and service call rates. Years ago, before his last fire, he was well equipped to do things in house, that kind of changed after or so I thought. That and rising costs of everything. I can't say what all his reasoning was, wish I asked him about that, he was a great friend over the years, and I had a lot of admiration for what he did and how he stayed in it. He had bought new JD equipment in later years, in the past there was more variety mixed in. He started going elsewhere for major repairs, and though he may have been dyed in wool green on the surface, the other dealer was CNH and seemed to have a better reputation amongst farmers in comparison, but he never really dealt with them, even when they had a branch right in town. He used JD parts, filters, fluids and many similar things OEM, but not everything exclusively OEM and may have figured doing this and staying with that brand was the better of the 2 choices. He was careful with money and finances, very careful, as that's all part of the farming game to be successful, which he was for the most part.

AC Delco for my Silverado and my wife's Buick.
Just yesterday bought the B&S filter for my mower.
Just seem to have a warm fuzzy feeling with these.
My Farmall has a LUBER-FINER P150 in it. Was lucky to find it.

i use all wix filter, cars, trucks and tractors and have been for over 15 years and so far do not have any failures due to a filter. my parts dealer has wix filter days in the spring for 2 weeks and there are good discounts when buying all you need for the year. but that just me.

I use typically use wither WIX, or NAPA (made by WIX) filters on everything I own. The majority of my customers do the same.
I've got customers that have been with me for over 15 years, with equipment seeing daily, hard use, in a 'production' environment, and have yet to run into any kind of filter related problems on any of their machines. If you take the number of customers/machines, and add the run time up accumulated with no issues, it'll add up to more hours than most on here will ever put on their machines in two lifetimes.

In the end there are good (cheap) filters, and better (more expensive) filters. I say this because no filter mfg is going to knowingly make "junk" and market it to a litigious public. Yes, you can buy a $2 filter and it'll do the job, but it's actual life expectancy might only be 6 months before it needs to be replaced, where the $5 filter might last 2 years. In other words you pretty much get what you pay for.

I have pretty much switched over to Wix after all the bad stories on the Purolator oil filters with media tearing problems. (see BITOG website for more details). For my B & S V twin I use an unboxed long filter from Family farm and home for less money. seems to work good.

Absolutely never I've never had a problem with an aftermarket oil filter. In 4000 hours on three different Kohler engines on my lazer Z Ztr, I've never even replace the air filter. That Donaldson air filter keeps the filter really clean. I've cleaned the filter with compressed air but have not ever replaced it. My brother and I both laughed, the air filter element outlast the Kohler engine. I'll use Napa filters Wix filters walmart, stp ect. never had any problems.

I use NAPA Gold, Wix and sometimes a Hasting or Baldwin filter if I can't get one of the others. I use them in trucks, car,garden tractors,and farm tractors for years. I have tried other brands and had problems and not been satisfied with the job they did .

Only thing I use oem filters on are my scion car and the ford filters I use on the gm engines in my boat (remote oil filters).

All red tractors get Baldwin filters. They are all old enough (and the red dealership is bad enough) that it doesn't make sense to go OEM. All other engines like mowers and vehicles get Wix. All John Deere equipment gets OEM filters and oil. That's only five pieces of equipment/tractors plus the combine. It seems like I get less questions from them when something breaks. I use their tube grease also. It's horribly expensive. However, I used a high quality cheaper grease on the combine one year. Every straw walker bearing went out. My favorite tech said it was that grease. I don't have reason to doubt him - I've put thousands of hours on the machine with those same bearings since then. They are proud of their parts, but I am just as proud of the condition of my tractors. It's also very easy to walk into the parts department and tell them I need everything for the 4440 and they already have my information.

Baldwin is my long time favorite because of their wide coverage, but Wix / NAPA is good and even Purolator in a pinch . Oh , I have used hundreds of Motorcraft FL1A's they are a top name and easy to find . But only that number in that brand ...

i buy the synthetic john deere grease for around 8 bucks a tube the best non synthectic is about 3 dollars i do not see the horribly expensive part

I use OEM filters until the warranty expires, just in case there is a warranty failure. After the warranty expires, I use NAPA Gold filters.

Well, I must say I am pleasantly surprised. I expected more "OEM Only" replies.

I, too, am a big fan of NAPA/Wix filters and will be using them on my new Kubota. It's nearly due for it's 50 hour service.

However, just this once, I did buy a set of Kubota filters, for two reasons.

1. The B2650 is a relatively new model and I want to be sure to get the filter numbers crossed right, so this gives me a little time to do that.

2. I was in the dealership anyway ordering a shop manual and picking up the oil for the hydro transmission.

I do lean towards using OEM fluids (except for engine oil, if it meets the API ratings specified, you're good to go IMHO) as it's [i:654c4848f0]possible[/i:654c4848f0] they use different additives.

But that's another topic.

Forgot to add, I used NAPA filters and generic Tractor Hydraulic Fluid on my JD750 for 27 years with absolutely no issues whatever. It was a gear trans tho, I'm a bit more concerned about what I use in a hydro as I'm new to hydro's.

For my Deere equipment I use OEM. Deere runs a filter and oil special once or twice a year.I stock up so I have what I will need for scheduled services. Other equipment gets Wix or Fleetguard

FORD filters on a GM engine? OMG, next thing we'll have cats and dogs living together!

When I worked at the place that sold wix I pretty much used them got a good deal on them. Now I pretty much buy OEM because they were not much more and I don't use a lot anymore either. But after the last time I bought some the price went up again and now I may search out some aftermarkets ?

Fawteen,
My answers would have been yes and no.
Yes, delco filters form Wally world, $4 and JD is the only place I can get a special hydrostatic filter for my JD275.

I tried generic hyd oil in the hydros of my Jubilee. Had to return to CHN134 because the generic oil was too thick in winter. Same with hydro on Farmall C. In winter the hydro is talking too much with generic.

No, to the expensive filters on my Kawasaki and Kohler, I use a steins at a fraction of the price.

Need to find a replacement for $7 Briggs filters from rural king.

I use OEM filters during the warranty period. Don't want a "cheap" filter to cause questions if I have to have work done. I generally use Wix filters cause of price and availability.

Yes,, always have always will,,, well worth the few pennies it may cost to me,,,,

OEM filters are usually rebadged brands that submitted the lowest bid and will go to someone else that bids lower the next time they let it out for bid.

For all I use and for all they cost. I purchase filters and oil from the dealer. Many folk are unaware of how prevalent counterfeit filters and oil are in the market.

We ran oem more in the past, but now we'll order a year's supply of Wix filters from fleet filter. After looking at AGCO and Wix filters side by side they are one in the same, so we still use oem, just with the Napa/Wix printing on them instead of AGCO.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Through late spring into fall I use about a tube a day. That's when it feels pricey. It takes a tube just to do the old baler every day and two for the combine. The 8430 has 10 hour grease joints on it, so it's an everyday grease as well. I want to say it was close to $10 a tube when I bought my last case of it.

(quoted from post at 19:17:05 06/18/15) I use NAPA Gold, Wix and sometimes a Hasting or Baldwin filter if I can't get one of the others. I use them in trucks, car,garden tractors,and farm tractors for years. I have tried other brands and had problems and not been satisfied with the job they did .

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NAPA Gold are Wix.

Rick

Most of the AG OEM filters are made by FleetGuard and have been for the better part of 20 years now. Not all of them are... but most are. For the most part I just use FG filters now because I order them by the case from my local Cummins dealer and get a better buy on them that way. Otherwise I'll use OEM filters on the machines. Price at retail is about the same for both anyway. For the big truck I usually use Baldwin because of availability. Pickup gets Napa Gold (Wix).

Rod

There is a common belief that OEM filters are the best. Not so. All OEM filters are made by filter companies. They are made to specs from the engine manufactures. The only real way to rate a filter is to use a chart from an independent testing lab. I have never understood why someone would buy an expensive tractor then buy a filter from a discount place just for the sake of a dollar or two. Not on my tractors I won't new or very old.

I knew that but just saying if I can't get NAPA Gold I will go with a Wix.

(quoted from post at 17:18:26 06/18/15) I hope this doesn't turn into a cat fight, but...

Simple yes or no question:

Do you use OEM filters on your equiment. IOW, if you have a John Deere, do you go to the John Deere Dealer and buy oil/air/fuel/hydraulic/trans filters? Case/IH from Case, etc. etc.

I do have a reason for posting this besides kicking over an anthill, so I'll let this cook for a while before I post my opinion/practice.

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No, i never had a problem with after market filters.
I have no dealer close enough by anyway., all of them are well over a 100 miles from me.

Ya it does get kinda pricey but if you are using a good grease it sure is a lot better than the alternative . Are you using the synthetic then ?