Need a hydraulic press

Fatjay · May 15, 2015

I figured out what caused my tie rod to break on my Oliver. The arm on the wheel hub was a) not in all the way and b) bent strait.

I need a press to fix it and it's more than anything I have can handle. Question is how much press do I need. 6, 12, 20, 50 tons? It's a 1" steel bar.

ohiojim · May 15, 2015

size of press won't matter to much, cuz you're gonna have to apply a generous amount of heat so you don't break it when straighting

Fatjay · May 15, 2015

Yeah I figured that, I'm not sure how it got bent so badly.

Here's the bad compared to the good.

flying belgian · May 15, 2015

I don't think you need a press at all. put it in the vise, heat it up, slip a pipe over the end and bend it however you want.

Fatjay · May 15, 2015

It has a ball over the end, can't slip a pipe over the end. I put my 3' pipe wrench on it but didn't have much success. Here's a better picture.

flying belgian · May 15, 2015

No, put the ball end in the vise. Thread the nut on so don't damage the threads and slip the pipe over that end.

CenTex Farmall · May 15, 2015

20 ton should be enough based on what I've straightened in mine.

John B. · May 16, 2015

I think if you heat it then it will bend easier next time since you'll be taking the temper out of it.

Are you sure it's suppose to be straight??

Steering linkage parts have a certain arc made into them from design so when turning, the inside steer tire turns sharper (smaller radius)
than the outside steer tire. Just my 2 cents worth..

Geo-TH,In · May 16, 2015

If the bend is where your thumb is, it may be difficult to bend using a press and not
bugger up the threads or the tapper. I have a cheap HF 20 ton press. I've never tried
bending something round so I can't say.

It's difficult to cut threads on harden or tempered steel, so I going to guess heating
won't hurt it too much. Besides if it was tempered, it would have snapped not bend. I
would heat it.

caterpillar guy · May 16, 2015

After heating it and straightening it,while it is still hot put it in some waste oil to quench it will give it some temper and add some of the carbon back to it. DO NOT leave it in till it cools just dip it in for a second or two. Just to bring the temperature down some. Then let it lay till cold.

Fatjay · May 16, 2015

The piece is supposed to be curved, but when I hit something it straitened it I'm guessing. In the last picture, the top is the damaged one, the bottom is the correct one. I have a bucket for quenching, but I've always used water, I'll look into oil.

I had wanted to use a press with the thought of heating and bending the U back into it, I could brace the outsides, and press the middle to put a good curve in it. Even in a vice with a 6' bar, I don't think all my weight could bend it even under heat.

shunkfarm · May 16, 2015

Heating it red hot it will bend easy. You need a cutting torch or a rosebud tip on an oxy/acet torch. Then read a little on hardening and then tempering.
Jay

Fatjay · May 16, 2015

Sadly, no acetelyne torch. Tried propane for 30min then a 5' bar with no movement. Gonna have to hit a shop and see if they can do it, or shell out for a press i think.

shunkfarm · May 16, 2015

(quoted from post at 14:28:15 05/16/15) Sadly, no acetelyne torch. Tried propane for 30min then a 5' bar with no movement. Gonna have to hit a shop and see if they can do it, or shell out for a press i think.

Like I said, RED hot! Like another poster said, if not hot enough the metal will not flow but will crack.

You ought to know somebody with a torch. I bought a set that uses propane for the fuel. Way cheaper than acetylene to run. It does not do as nice a cut but is plenty good for what I do. I used to scrap on and off and have burned a lot of propane cutting stuff up. I use it to cut when I an welding or building things. Almost a must around a farm!

If worst comes to worst, ship it Post office FLAT RATE to me with a pattern of the other one and I will bend it for you.
Jay (fat with long hair)

Janicholson · May 16, 2015

A port-a-power and some 1/2" thick plate for a fixture should bend it in place. Jim

flying belgian · May 16, 2015

It seams hard to believe that it would be that hard to bend it back. After all it bent just by hitting something with a rubber tire wheel. Is there something you're not telling us?

flying belgian · May 16, 2015

It seams hard to believe that it would be that hard to bend it back. After all it bent just by hitting something with a rubber tire wheel. Is there something you're not telling us? Just put it between
two wood blocks and give it a couple whacks with the mall.

Fatjay · May 16, 2015

I'm not sure it got the bend while I owned it, it just broke while I owned it.

I ended up grinding it down, the hole is tapered so grinding it and pushing it further through shortened it enough so the wheel would clear the tie rod. I can go lock to lock now without any issues. The alignment is a hair out, 2-3 degrees, but the front end is so light, I can almost lift the front end by hand due to the hoe's counter-weight in the back. I almost have no steering off road as it is. I'm going to play with it more.

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