Tractors and Broken Chevies

Allan in NE

Well-known Member
Got 'er home.. Kinda greasy out there. Next step is to pull the cover and see what went wrong in that box.

Allan

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Looks as if you got rid of most of the snow. Also I thought I was the only one that would transport the truck home off of the 3 point. You are real class
 
Two scenarios twisted off ends of axles, or more likely spider gear shaft keeps axles from moving in, so I am guessing it either slid out or broke allowing axles to move in allowing C clips to drop out, and that lets axles slide out. I have had it happen once to me , and as I am sure you know its quite a shock , but even scarier watched it happen to my son at the drag strip. It was at night and only the one side spit out ,( he twisted off the end of a high performance after market axle, we think when he hit second gear,spinning him around 3 complete revolutions, sparks flying like crazy. Wore the backing plate half off! Could have been worse. The tire complete with axle went right out the end of the quarter mile. I guess another good reason for 9 inch Ford!
 
Only took one Chev for us: had an 04 2500HD with the 6.0, motor was great but electricals were a constant mess, rotors warped about every third time we pulled with it and the transfer case wore a hole from the inside out to ghe tune of about 2grand. The new Ram 1500 has about the same towing capacity, the Hemi out pulls the 6.0 and gets better mileage and its been trouble free!
BTw the Chev got hauled home once by an IH also and I think the time the transfer case was found to be inop it got hauled out of the snow by the JD 70!
 
LOL! Chevy didn't make the transfer case, the GOAT company did (or maybe they had spun of New Process Gear by then)?????
 
Hooked that close it's a wonder you didn't need new tail lights by the time you got home...
 
Lot of comments on the GM's, and I am not so much loyal to any one brand any longer, but I have owned or driven GM trucks for nearly 50 years, and only replaced one pinion seal in all that time, and likely put a million miles on those same type axles, and no failures. Are failures on those all that common? Really? Guess I have been really lucky, but I certainly do not hold on to anything that is trouble prone and costly to repair.
 
Axles that are retained by the bearings are NOT floating. They also haven't been used since the 1960s. GM went to C-lock rears around 1970 or so. Those are called semi-floating. A full float is the one that has the axle flange BOLTED to the hub on the outside. Full floating axles are normally used on 1-ton and larger.
This one looks as if the pinion pin came out and let the C-locks drop out. At that point, the axles are no longer held in place.
 
Nope,

Very, very rare that this should happen. Something went south in the spyder cage to let those C-clips drop. Even when the retainer bolt snaps, the pin "usually" stays in place.

We shall see when I get the cover off.

Allan
 
The "Goat" company is what some of use call the "Ram" truck company,, we also refer to them as a "Shipping crate for a Cummins engine"....
 
My oldest one time had a jeep that the axle walked out,like yours did, while 4 wheeling in the woods-he took ratchet straps and a small log,stuffed the axle back in,tied the log along side the tire to hold it in,and drove out of the woods.Too bad there aren't any trees out your way! Mark
 
I agree, before we were married my wife had an old Chevelle (probably same design 10 bolt GM axle), and the retainer bolt sheared due to a spider locking up on the shaft if I recall, but everything stayed in place. First sign of any trouble was just a clunk when shifting into gear - shaft was getting sloppy in the pinion cage. Swapped in a entire axle assembly from the scrap yard, and it was good to go. I suspect that failure might have been due someone running a much larger tire on one side vs. the other causing the spiders to do a lot of work. This was during the time when big/wide tires were popular, and it had a set of the old "60" series tires on the rear. Be interesting to see what this one looks like inside. A lot of later GM trucks with the G80 locking rears have the Eaton lockers in them, and I have not been into one of those, and they are much different than the old clutch style with the plates, or so I am told. I know most if not all the Z71 optioned trucks have the lockers, but not necessarily if ordered with a G80 Locking rear.
 
Let us know what you find in the housing. Interesting that both axles decided to leave town at the same time. Almost like the entire cage broke. Been doing any drag racing lately and get her to hook up real good? Just kidding.

Greg
 
GM will do that. Chrysler uses a tapered roller at the wheel. It carries the outward thrust. The opposing carrier bearing carries the inward thrust through the axle shaft, spider gear shaft, and diff carrier.
 

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