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David G

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We did no till last year with corn on beans, this is first year of beans on corn.

I am impressed with how well the rows clean up.
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My friend in SpringValley Wis farms this way.Corn/Soybean rotation.Hasnt plowed/worked ground in 20 years.In facthe has sold off all his tillage equipment.He now puts his "machinery dollars" into a state of the art planter instead of other stuff.He makes only 3 trips acroos his fields.Plant,spray,combine.Reports yeilds are better than when he 'farmed'.The advantage is especially evident in a dry year.
 
Looks like mine, I've been 100% no-til both beans in cornstalks and corn in bean stubble for 7 years, longer on the really steep ground. The soil really gets mellow after a few years.
 
Aren't you from Mount Vernon, if so, this piece is on springville pavement just north of elbow creek.
 
I'm in the same camp. This is the 30th season on some fields. Soil OM has increased, yields are more consistant, especially in dry years. Soil is nice and mellow, lots of worms. Machinery costs are low. Fuel costs- well, last year the fuel guy asked when we were going to start planting. "We're done," was the answer. Most of it is 2 years corn, one beans, one corn, 3 alfalfa. Have some corn beans wheat too.
 
Nope, not from Mt. Vernon, but the suburb to the west called Cedar Rapids. Lived there from '61 to '77. Did get around the countryside a bit when I was there - was a salesman for the old Rath Packing Company for a year in '61 and had some accounts in Mt. Vernon.

Got a good friend named Norm Hlas who farms with Jim Lensch over on Radio Road off of Hwy. 13 north of Marion.

Glad your eyes are recovering.

Stan
 
Been no tilling here for 15 years---just a single fluted coulter on the planter and HD springs on each unit. Very good results corn after corn; soys after corn; corn on 30 inch and soys on 15--use the same planter with a splitter for the soys (New Idea double frame with Kinze units) The only time I plow is when I have spread solid dry manure; I have yet to find a way to satifactorily incorporate the manure without plowing and without exposing it to weather related losses from not working it in.

Ben
 
We have 300 dairy cows... and all manure is surface applied, and crops no-till planted. We were a WI Discovery Farms site for 5 years, monitoring manure and no-till. We had lower N losses to ground and surface water than where manure was incorperated. P loss was a little higher, mainly because we had severe flooding (18 in of rain in month) during one season. You can no-till and apply manure. If you are worried about losing N to the atmosphere, you won't capture that N unless you are getting it plowed under within 48 hours of application.
 
Thats what I try to do here. When we had dairy, we used a lot of straw; still do now custom feeding heifers. Plowed ground goes into small grains with a conventional drill since I don't have a no till drill, but the rest is zero tillage.

Ben
 
David I hope it works well for you. I no-tilled for 7 years and my yields fell every year. I could not afford to keep trying it. I went back to tillage and my yields jumped 25 bushel an acre on my corn. So I do no-till some corn onto bean stubble but must of my ground is deep tilled in the fall and then manure applied in the spring with a finisher following the manure application. I have good soil structure and my yields hang in there year in and year out.

So each to his own. If your having good luck no-tilling then great for you. Just don't preach to me about it.
 
I started no tilling in the mid 80's. By '91, was 100% no till. My yields match or exceed that of my neighbor who is still 100% conventional tillage. It takes a full commitment to the practices of no tilling. There are also hybrids that do much better than others. Just "trying no till" doesn't mean that the attempt was done RIGHT. There's a learning curve that some people just never get on top of.
 
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