Facts AND Pictures! :)

Bryce Frazier · Apr 26, 2015

Alright! Anyone game to go for a tractor ride?

YA?! LETS ROLL!!!

First stop, Mr. Greens old "shed". "FACT" Is thought to have been built in 1903. This was the original "Slaughter Shed" for the VonScribendikes homestead farm. As some of you know, Ralph Green was the next door neighbor that left me a lot of equipment. He married Jean VonScribendike (whos grandparents had originally started the farm) and the farm named swapped over to Green!

This shed was used as the Slaughter House for the farm, all of the cows and pigs were hung, and butchered here. When the slabs of meat were ready to be taken to town (by steamboat) "FACT" the entire front wall opened up and they backed a wagon in and loaded it up! (that would be the South wall, on the left side of the picture).

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Next, we continue on down to the bay... It was a cloudy/foggy day, but still a nice picture! You are looking at a "FACT" total stud on a Farmall, but you knew that...

Also, that is Lake Pend Oreille behind me.

"FACT" 148 Square Miles big, "FACT" 43 Miles long, "FACT" 1150 feet deep at it's deepest point, "FACT" making it the 5th deepest lake in the USA!

Past the lake is the Monarch Mountain's, part of the Rockies of course! And JUST on the other side of those beauties, "FACT" is Montana!

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Okay, heading home! (short ride huh!?!) decided to try airing up the old Chevy, so I "FACT" FIRED IT UP AND DROVE IT UP TO THE SHOP!

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Just thought you guys might like to see one of my many adventures.... Life is short, GOOF OFF!

notjustair · Apr 26, 2015

Does your old Chev still have the original engine? My neighbor has a '56 and they put a 350
in it. It runs nice. I would like to do the same to my '58 but the guy that did it is long dead. I just don't know how much of a direct bolt in a 350 is for that four speed. I still have he original inline six and the rear rope seal leaks like crazy. Mine is a GMC and I have heard that they used their own transmissions, but the shift pattern is the same one that we had on our 51 Chevy.

Mark-Mi · Apr 26, 2015

Did someone say lets go on a tractor ride?

Fact, Mackinaw Bridge, Longest suspension bride in the western hemisphere.

Fact, at 26,372 feet long, the fifth longest suspension bridge in the world.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 26, 2015

Alright!!!!! Join the cruse!!!

VERY cool facts!

Thanks!!!!!

Bryce Frazier · Apr 26, 2015

Yes, this is a box stock truck, has a 6 cyl in it, not sure what it is though... Kind of thought that it was a 235, but beings that it is a C6400, 2 ton, I am starting to wonder if it isn't something bigger?

This one fires right up and runs great, however it burns oil, bad. Something wrong in No.1, not knocking, but it isn't doing something right.... Kind of disappointing, but I think a new set of rings will cheer it right up!

I want to someday (soon) put a complete 6.0 out of a totaled 2006 Suburban into this beast! Not sure how easy it would be, but it would be ONE of a kind for sure!!!

I like the 4 spd in this one, but it REALLY should have had a 2 speed rear... only 4 gears is a little hard on it, I think....

old popper · Apr 26, 2015

Probably a 261 six in it.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 26, 2015

Is there any way of finding out? Without tearing the head off and doing some math?!

notjustair · Apr 26, 2015

Mine is a grain hauler - it has a two speed. That means you are either crawling or crawling a little faster. With the six wound up to 3000 it will do 50. Mine has the GMC 270 engine in it. We had a 51 Chevy and I want to say it had the 235 (grain truck). I don't recall it being underpowered, but you had to hold it in third gear so you always had your focus somewhere else. The six in mine has no problem getting 225 bushels of corn moving, but you have to be creative and split all of the gears with the two speed. I wouldn't want it to be a straight rearend.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 26, 2015

Crawling a little faster is right!!!

Check this out, was just looking at the speed chart/ rpm set for Chevy trucks. You should have a look at this, VERY cool truck manual!

Anyway, it says basically, with the straight six, 2 ton truck, 4 speed, here are you gears at 4000 rpm (out of a rated MAX 4200 rpm.... wonder what that would sound like!!!)

1st - 8 MPH
2nd - 17
3rd - 35
4th - 61

I am calling bull that my truck would do 61! Would have to have that engine coming apart at the seams!!!! I am looking for a 2 speed rear end pretty badly... Plus, if anything, I just think that it is cool to be shifting....

I figure if I have a 5000 lb tractor on the back (yes osha cops, that is safe/legal..) then a 2 speed would really help things keep on a rollin! Would have to learn how to drive one...

Doubt that it would be as smooth as the 18 spd Eaton in my buddies Kenworth!

1956 Chevy Truck Manual

Steve@Advance · Apr 26, 2015

Look just above the starter. If there is a rectangular pad cast onto the block, think it's a couple of vertical slashes, it's a 261.

And there's this:http://www.adchevy.com/info/6-cylinder-engine-casting-numbers

Brendon Warren · Apr 26, 2015

I've still got my dad's 58. It has a 348? V8 anyway big ole 8 with huge valve covers. I'll have to snag some pics next time I'm near it. He bought it in 64 and parked it in 89 when he got a Mack. What a difference.

Earl-IL · Apr 26, 2015

Block Casting number is on the Dist. side, lower right usually 7 dig-it number.

2x4 · Apr 26, 2015

prolly 261 but could be 292 6 cyl.

CenTex Farmall · Apr 26, 2015

The trans is an SM420 and is a bolt on.

I have a later (60's) GMC with v6 and SM420. The GMC has a different bolt pattern. Not sure about the input shaft length or pilot bearing size.

CenTex Farmall · Apr 26, 2015

Do the old Google search for "261 chevy ID" and you'll get pictures, etc.

In short, "captain's bars" in conjunction with certain block casting numbers and you should have an external oil filter. Basically 261 had bigger bore, little more cam and stronger rods.

retired farmer · Apr 27, 2015

Here's another FACT. No way on God's green earth would you get me to cross that bridge on a tractor or in a car. I do not like bridges.

Ultradog MN · Apr 27, 2015

Fact:
I enjoyed your post.

larry@stinescorner · Apr 27, 2015

Ill second that fact

MarkB_MI · Apr 27, 2015

>Here's another FACT. No way on God's green earth would you get me to cross that bridge on a tractor or in a car. I do not like bridges.

So, RF, how WOULD you travel from Michigan's lower peninsula to the UP?

The shortest alternative route is an 800 mile detour around Lake Huron, traveling through Canada, which includes a two hour ferry ride across the Georgian Bay.

If you want to keep your feet on dry land, or don't happen to have your passport on you, then the second choice is to drive around Lake Michigan, a distance of about 900 miles. The drive through Chicago is particularly enjoyable.

SweetFeet · Apr 27, 2015

Those are some great photos, Bryce.

Hmmmm, now if only that were a rusty tractor... just kidding!

Traditional Farmer · Apr 27, 2015

3rd class bridge crossing beats 1st class swimming any time

Richard G. · Apr 27, 2015

Great photos. Those old Chevy 6 bangers are one tough engine. 2 competing fertilizer dealers around here back in the 60's would go down to the warehouse to pick up bagged fertilizer. One had old Chevy with a six and the other had Ford with a V8. FACT: The Chevy would leave the Ford behind every time.
Back in the early 70's, I took our 64 Chevy 6 down near Columbia, SC to help move some huge granite stepping stones from an old house place that Gen Sherman had stayed in on his pillaging and burning route to the sea. Friend had a later model Ford V8 and when we loaded them both up, FACT: I could out haul my friend like crazy. Never understood WHY that fellow wanted stones Sherman had walked on.
Richard in NW SC

Dick2 · Apr 27, 2015

The first truck that I got to drive was a 1935 Dodge 2-ton with a 5-speed transmission - and no doors on the cab. I was so small then that I had to hang from the steering wheel to reach the clutch to double clutch to shift the transmission. Later Dad got a 1938 Chevy truck with a manual shift 2-speed rear axle. The lever for the manual shift was on the passenger side, so I had to be a contortionist to clutch and reach the manual lever for the 2-speed at the same time. Driving trucks with a vacuum 2-speed shift was a real treat after driving that old Chevy.

black · Apr 27, 2015

Great pics . That old chev reminds me of my 48 kb5 --lots of fun . The Mac. bridge is 50 min south of me and about 800 tractors cross it in Sept. come on up and you will be amazed !!

Larry --ont.

Bryce Frazier · Apr 27, 2015

Hehehe, well, this is a pretty farm!

I will come up with something... MUST be something rusty around here...

hehehe

Rich'sToys · Apr 27, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:39:15 04/26/15) Is there any way of finding out? Without tearing the head off and doing some math?!

Go over to Stovebolt.com They have forums and tech tips over there. You'll learn how to identify your engine and anything else you need to know about that truck.

rustyfarmall · Apr 27, 2015

(quoted from post at 03:52:14 04/27/15) >Here's another FACT. No way on God's green earth would you get me to cross that bridge on a tractor or in a car. I do not like bridges.

So, RF, how WOULD you travel from Michigan's lower peninsula to the UP?

The shortest alternative route is an 800 mile detour around Lake Huron, traveling through Canada, which includes a two hour ferry ride across the Georgian Bay.

If you want to keep your feet on dry land, or don't happen to have your passport on you, then the second choice is to drive around Lake Michigan, a distance of about 900 miles. The drive through Chicago is particularly enjoyable.

Here's another FACT. Personally, I have no problem with bridges, but if I did, and that long bridge was the only way to get there, I wouldn't go. There is nothing on the other side that I need. Kind of like climbing a mountain.

kencombs · Apr 27, 2015

292 was the later engine design that started in '63. 62 and earlier were either 216 (babbit rod engine), 235 (early was babbit/after 53 inserted rods) or 261. 261 just a 235 with a different block, cored to bore out 3/16". And don't try that with a 235 block, DAMHIKT! The blocks look alike, but if you look behind the starter, the 261 has a couple of raised bars (used to call the captain's bars).

mj · Apr 27, 2015

(quoted from post at 06:05:03 04/27/15) Great photos. Those old Chevy 6 bangers are one tough engine. 2 competing fertilizer dealers around here back in the 60's would go down to the warehouse to pick up bagged fertilizer. One had old Chevy with a six and the other had Ford with a V8. FACT: The Chevy would leave the Ford behind every time.
Back in the early 70's, I took our 64 Chevy 6 down near Columbia, SC to help move some huge granite stepping stones from an old house place that Gen Sherman had stayed in on his pillaging and burning route to the sea. Friend had a later model Ford V8 and when we loaded them both up, FACT: I could out haul my friend like crazy. Never understood WHY that fellow wanted stones Sherman had walked on.
Richard in NW SC

Yeh - I've still got a 292 in a '69 K20 Chevrolet - THOUGHT about a 350 v/8 swap some years ago BUT with some experiences like you had behind me I decided against it

BUT since then, I've had experience with the Ford 300 six and the Ford 302 v/8 and I believe the Ford 300 to be one of the best if not THE best TRUCK engine ever built by any one AND I am NOT a Ford fan (at all :x ). Sure, a v/8 will usually out-drag a 6 but for hauling and pulling a load I will take a 292 or a 300 every time........BUT......that's just me :roll:

ArleninOr · Apr 27, 2015

Bryce,I happen to have a 2 spd rearend that you could have rite reasonable.About 61/2 to 7 hrs one way but you could bring your girl on a sightseeing trip.

2x4 · Apr 28, 2015

saw the same with Chevy 261 & 283 engines. Had a 261 in 60 series 2-ton that went bad & put in a 283. The 283 could just barely bring the truck up out of the saw dust pit with 65 cross-ties on it! 261 never had a problem because of the long piston stroke. 283 was only 5 mph faster on highway. Switched back to 261 after I rebuilt it.

2x4 · Apr 28, 2015

I see. I didn't catch the year the truck was made. Still, someone could've dropped a 292 in there at a later date.

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