Camaro Barn Find

Steve@Advance · Feb 17, 2015

Now this is what you can call original!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/rare-finds-1969-chevy-camaro-z-28/ar-BBhlhL6

JD Seller · Feb 17, 2015

That is real neat!!!
Direct link to article 1969 Camaro

Billy NY · Feb 17, 2015

That is something else, and it reminds me of a car I have in my basement/garage with about the same miles on it, I have the original battery, it still has the factory tires, though its quite a bit newer, an SVT product of ford of '96 vintage, the story is unfolding the same way. It may need to make way for a nice tractor for me.

I've known of a few that owned one these with the 302, sure would be really cool to see it. I've seen some practically showroom new cars of that era at shows on occasion, they're always my favorite for some reason. Really cool story, nice you posted it here !

Pappy · Feb 17, 2015

I'm old and have never seen a Chevy 302. What was it---special only to Camero Z28??

Billy NY · Feb 17, 2015

Yes and though I forget now the details of that motor, though I knew the 327 quite well having worked on a friends quite often. Someone will know here, the details on how or what model it was available, or do a search on the web, don't believe its rare, just not that common. A friend at work back in the 80's had one with a 302 that he set up for drag when it was new. He said he bought it new, drove it around the block, showed everyone, then did whatever modifications needed right after. He was a great friend, was just driving where we worked to keep busy, was a successful owner operator for years. I had him accompany me to my then Class 1 (tractor trailer) road test, he had 20 years or so on me then, very knowledgeable about GM products of his day, it was fun to hear of his youth and cars like these.

Chuck (CA) · Feb 17, 2015

Like Billy said..I believe it was a de-stroked 327 and was made to qualify for either Trams Am or some other racing organization which set a 305 cu in. maximum. They were high rev monsters. The tv show Fat and Furious, (Yeah I spelled it right) just did a restoration on one and it ticked off a 13.50 ET. That was very fast back then with no modifications to the block.

Formerly PaMike · Feb 18, 2015

Wonder what the price tag was? 70K??Or more?

Dan in Ohio · Feb 18, 2015

Had 69 Firebird when in high school that was the same color. That brings back some memories.

John M · Feb 18, 2015

Some stupid hot rodder will blow it apart, strip it down and ruin it and ask 100 grand for it.

chucksoliver77 · Feb 18, 2015

The stock Z28 turned low 15s. Chuck

Steve@Advance · Feb 18, 2015

I've never seen one either. They were a factory race engine, street legal, had 327 block, 4" bore, with a 283 stroke. Thinking they used the performance heads with angled plugs, 2.02 intake valves, solid lift cam... Testing my memory, better quit while I'm ahead! LOL

Ray · Feb 18, 2015

He probably paid close to that to get it.

tomNE · Feb 18, 2015

302 was a 350 4bolt block with a different crank, rods and pistons. If you used the word, destroked, it'd be appropriate. They had GM's best cylinder heads, solid lifter cam, and factory aluminum intake. I had the pleasure of working on a few of these engines. really streaky and had to be taken to high RPM's to get the big horsepower. that's why they were "blown up" continually. There biggest downfall was the GM ignition set-up.

gab · Feb 18, 2015

That's a nice find, I had a buddy with a new green one, scary fast. I bought a 69 Super Sport a couple years later but never beat mine. Think I sold mine in 1976 for $1700., should of stuck it in the basement.

Dean · Feb 18, 2015

Nice find.

A friend of mine actually junked a 67 Z/28, using the engine and transmission in a 55 and scrapping the rest. Don't ask....

Sixty seven Z/28s were quite rare but when he did this in the early/mid 1970s, everyone wanted a 68, 69 or 70.

As previously mentioned, the 301 was a 327/350 with a 283 stroke and all of the best small block performance parts, heads, cam, intake, etc., that Chevrolet offered for production engines at the time.

They were certainly winders.

Before the 327 became readily available for hot rod use, the hot small block Chevy set up was the so-called 301, i.e., a 283 bored to 4.00". Like the 283, they too were winders but most did not have the advantage of the heads, camshafts, intakes, etc. available by the mid 1960s.

Dean

CenTex Farmall · Feb 18, 2015

I have an uncle who built a 301 "back in the day". He had it in a '55 Chevy.

Haven't heard mention of a 301 in a long time.

sonny2 · Feb 18, 2015

My stepson had a 69-Z about 30 years ago and he bought it back a couple years ago. It appears as though it was a 2-4 barrel because it has an extra hole in the firewall for the throttle cable. It has gone thru the mill, it was built up for drag racing, with a roll cage and subframe connectors, the crossmember was even cut out to clear a deep oilpan. He is putting it all back to original. He will have a bundle in it until it is done.

Ray · Feb 18, 2015

A friend of mine has a 1970 Z28 that I bought new.I sold it to him over 30 years ago and it just sets in his barn.My wifes cousin has a 1969 Z28 in his garage.Think it has 48000 miles.There were a lot of new Z28 cars sold around here.

JMOR · Feb 18, 2015

So much for various memories. The 302 was exclusively for the Trans-Am (SCCA) era Z28 of 1967-1969. It used a 327 block with a 283 crank. This gave short stroke/large bore high rev engine. Not at all like later 305 & 307 small bore/long stroke emissions engines. Came from factory only with single 4BBL carb. Street tires, 14.34 sec, 101.35mph. Slicks, 13.64sec, 104.28mph. with 4.88 gears, slicks, open headers, 13.11sec, 106.76mph. $4, 176 as tested in Hot Rod, Jan, 1969. But drag racing wasn't the intent. Won back to back SCCA road racing championships at hands of Mark Donohue, holding Mustangs to follow up the rear.

Ron in Nebr · Feb 19, 2015

A dealer-installed option on the 302 z-28's was
a dual 4bbl cross ram manifold. If ordered that
way, the car arrived with the single 4bbl, and
the cross ram manifold was in the trunk. Might
have been the same deal with exhaust headers
too?

The above post where someone thought a car had
had dual 4bbls at some point due to two
throttle cable holes in the firewall is
incorrect. The second hole would have been for
an automatic transmission kickdown cable.

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