New Tractor Prices

Spudm · Feb 6, 2015

After attending a couple seminars & small tractor shows this week, I find new tractor prices have gone up. In the 40-60hp range, about a 10-15% increase in price, mostly due to the new Tier 4 engines and pollution standards. Clean technology is good, but I have to wonder if it is that good just yet to justify the price increase on diesel equipment?
What do you think, will prices come down or keep going up?

Heat Houser · Feb 6, 2015

With the additional cost for Tier 4 and the additional cost for diesel fuel, I wonder if a better choice would be a gas tractor in this horsepower range. With current automotive technology, you don't get the stumbles and missing when cold like you did with carburetors and manual chokes. Your cars and pickups, you crank them up and go, no popping and banging and falling on their face.

Texasmark1 · Feb 6, 2015

I don't know of a new gas tractor made.....course I don't stay up with things like that. Every one I see or hear about is diesel. I like my diesel tractors for fuel economy and lugging capabilities. Granted new gassers are getting real good on managing fuel, but even though I had a couple of the new Ram Hemi's in pu trucks, I never put them to the test so I don't know how well they could lug.

Mark

1948CaseVAI · Feb 6, 2015

Clean technology is OK but we got to the "good enough" point a decade ago and it is high time to knock off further economic damage at the alter of the environment. It has become a religion and needs to be curtailed.

When the environment conflicts with personal liberty and/or economic growth, the environment needs to lose.

bp4455 · Feb 6, 2015

its time for lp/cng tractors to come into the mainstream. much cleaner less emissions equip.

Janicholson · Feb 6, 2015

I contend that we all live in the same world. Why should "personal liberty and economic growth", above everyone else's, be able to degrade the planet? With respect, Jim

MN Scott · Feb 6, 2015

One thing for sure the prices will never come down. Tractor company's will just reduce production and lay off workers. That is how manufacturing works, keep production at demand or sliglty below it and keep ticking your prices up.

ss55 · Feb 6, 2015

The stronger dollar increases the prices of imported items.

Dean · Feb 6, 2015

The return of gasoline power to the industrial and AG market is now inevitable due to government meddling.

Stay tuned.

Dean

Dean · Feb 6, 2015

Wrong.

A stronger dollar reduces prices of imported goods.

Dean

Dean · Feb 6, 2015

Actually, the point of deminishing returns was reached decades ago.

These days, the EPA continues to impose burdensome regulations that result in huge costs for miniscule (if any) benefit simply to justify its existance.

Dean

fixerupper · Feb 6, 2015

We are beginning to see NG powered buses and trucks. Works best for those vehicles that come back to home base every day. Our tractors almost always live at home base so staying close to a fuel source for a NG powered tractor shouldn't be a problem. The cost of the refueling equipment might be another matter.

Spudm · Feb 6, 2015

Yes, I believe more engines are going to be running on natural gas in the near future. New technology....

ss55 · Feb 6, 2015

I wasn't thinking this morning, Thanks.

Spudm · Feb 6, 2015

I wonder if a diesel engine would still sound like a diesel engine if it was running on natural gas? Or would it not be a diesel engine anymore since it's not running on diesel fuel?

DoubleR · Feb 6, 2015

I can't remember ever seeing the prices on equipment come down.

After realizing the price increases back in December due to the tier 4 engines I went out and brought a used 6 year old low hour tractor. Not to mention I've already had one problem with my 2012 tier 4 tractor.

Part Time Pete · Feb 6, 2015

The EPA under this administration would love to outlaw all fossil fuels if it could, among other things. Remember the $175/head cattle flatulence tax they proposed, or the dust regulations that would make it illegal to till your land or drive down a dirt road?
Hopefully change is coming...

dhermesc · Feb 6, 2015

And INCREASES the cost of our exports.

The Dukester · Feb 6, 2015

Yeah, but burning that DEF supplement pee-pee stuff and pushing that new tractor's smoke through that 10,000 dollar 15 Gallon black Grease barrel hanging on the side of the cab eliminates at least 2 tenths of one percent of the man made polution in this country. Just think of the difference that'll make in this world in just a few hundred years......

JML755 · Feb 6, 2015

(quoted from post at 11:02:57 02/06/15)
Clean technology is OK but we got to the "good enough" point a decade ago and it is high time to knock off further economic damage at the alter of the environment. It has become a religion and needs to be curtailed.

When the environment conflicts with personal liberty and/or economic growth, the environment needs to lose.

Amen x 10!

Spudm · Feb 6, 2015

New gasoline tractors could be fuel injected now, with no carburetors or chokes. Imagine that!

Hayrack · Feb 6, 2015

CNG tractors are still going to have the same problem that my old LP gas tractors have. You are going to have to keep them close to home base to refuel. That is the only complaint I have against my LP tractors. When I am 6 miles from home cutting hay, I have to road it home every night to fill it up instead of hauling a couple cans of fuel to it. I was going to do what they used to do and just put a 250 gallon LP tank on a wagon gear to haul fuel to them, but after talking to my LP truck driver, I decided not to. He basically told me that if I got caught pulling it on the road, It would be a long time before my view of the world didn't include iron bars.

Jim in rush co · Feb 6, 2015

Got tier 4 engines on 2 now, sure can't smell the diesel.

JD Seller · Feb 6, 2015

Your propane supplier is BS you. All you need is a tank or tanks with DOT certification. Find out where any Swan's truck have been salvaged and buy one of the propane tanks that was on the truck. IT has the DOT certification. They are usually 100-150 gallon tanks. I know of several that have done this for transporting propane.

Your regular old house/farm propane tank is not Certified by the DOT. Using one of them for road travel is illegal.

David G · Feb 6, 2015

Another time I agree with Jim

caterpillar guy · Feb 7, 2015

If those house tanks are illegal to transport,how are those guys doing that to move their dryers from field to field out there in IA. I have seen them set up in the field so they could dry right in the field. I'm sure they weren't leaving them there year round. If they did then they were working around them.

buickanddeere · Feb 7, 2015

(quoted from post at 10:36:58 02/06/15) With the additional cost for Tier 4 and the additional cost for diesel fuel, I wonder if a better choice would be a gas tractor in this horsepower range. With current automotive technology, you don't get the stumbles and missing when cold like you did with carburetors and manual chokes. Your cars and pickups, you crank them up and go, no popping and banging and falling on their face.

The very topic is boiling at tractrobynet . Some people just will not consider anything but diesel for a tractor. They keep trotting out statements well how long will a 125HP gas motor cycle engine last in my tractor. Or back in the 1950's the Deere 730 used this much and the Deere G used this much. So this in 2015 diesel must be the winner.
Some people just want a diesel because it's a diesel and that is the end of the considerations.
Most folk seem totally unaware of the cost per btu at the fuel pumps instead of cost per gallon.
They also seem unaware of the characteristics of the direct injection gasoline engine .
They seem unconfined about the costs of servicing faults on the Tier IV diesel after warranty expires.
There seems to be little understanding of the difference between HD applications like operating an 200HP irrigation pump 24/7 at full power and rpms. Vs Uncle Bubba putting around the yard on his 35HP CUT mowing the lawn etc.
They even claim the DI gas has a fragile computer and sensors and will not suitable for a tractor. Then they walk out of the house and jump into a DI gas car, truck, ATV, motor cycle, boat or snowmobile. Or a Tier IV diesel. Go Figure ?
Not going to change anybody's mind that is made up.
Some people will brand you as a heretic and want to tie you to a stake for considering a gasoline "tractor".
They seem to still think of diesels as something from 1920 to 2006 with no memory of 2007 to 2015 diesel engines and diesel fuel prices ???

buickanddeere · Feb 7, 2015

Pete, Dukster and JML have it pretty covered

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