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Bryce Frazier

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Have 3 that I am looking at, which is a better buy?

Farmall M, Schwartz Wide Front, needs read tires, restored 10 years ago, runs strong. $800

Farmall M, IH Wide Front, AWESOME tires, nice original, needs carb work, but will run well (trust the seller very much)$1500 *

Farmall Super M, IHI Wide Front, Needs tires soon, runs strong, clean... $1200

*If purchased, BRAND NEW 3 point kit will be offered for an additional $300.

What do you guys think? Bryce
 
The middle one where you trust the seller I'd think. Plus anymore tires are EXPENSIVE. Trade him a pile of Deere's in on it !
 
I would go with the third option. already has the tires. they are costly. has an I h wide front. original. three point option would be a good investment and you would have an awesome tractor. Also would not be as costly as the others after you fixed them. Carbs can be rebuild inexpensively, if done right.
 
Get 2 and 3 then use them to see which is the best or you like the most. if you like the SM best switch tires from the M to SM and sell the M. If not sell the SM. In my area 1200 is a good price for a good running SM. Don't think you would have a problem getting your money back if deciding to sell it.
 
No doubt in my mind. Number 2. And a new 3 point is way ahead of the game. Tires are expensive. Knowing the person selling is the best. If you can't afford it right now, maybe he will hold the 3 point for you. Aftermarket 3 points are expensive. If it is a good one, that is cheap.
Richard in NW SC
 
1 and 3 are owned by the same guy, and I know/trust him very much as well, I just meant for 2 when I said "I trust the guy" that needing carb work is ALL it needs.

None of the tractors are "for sale" if I wanted to buy them, I could, they just aren't actively trying to sell...

I also know that the 3 point kit will be there until it rust away, or I buy it, so really no big deal holding it.

Another catch to No. 2 is that he is a collector of little things, and desperately wants this Wood Beam plow I have come up with, he has a LOT of steel ones, but not a one wood one, and he wants it B A D! :)

Another plus to the No. 2, is that if I rebuilt the carb on it, mom could just give me a ride there, and I would drive it home! Could probably do it in 2 1/2 hours... They will do 14 or 15 won't they?

The only question I still have is horse power. I am concerned that if I get 2, it isn't going to have enough power for me, will it?

I want to be able to pull 3x14 in sod, maybe 2x16. 11 foot disc, and my NH 68 Engine drive baler.

I know it will handle the disc and the baler, but how about 3x14? Only 4 inch deep around here anyway....

A front loader is also a possibility, if I could find one, and I have been told that the aftermarket wide fronts are built stronger than the IH ones? True?

Thanks for the input guys! It is a REALLY nice feeling to know that I can gather excellent advice from all of you!

Except for that guy that told me to get an Oil-All-Over....

hehehe :) Bryce
 
I don't know what type of soil you have, but around here an M will pull 3-16s with no problems. Dad pulled 3-16s with a 350, but the M would pull it easier. Not a super M either.
 
I agree, but my NH 68 has a Wisconsin on it, so all I need it for is to actually pull the baler, not run it...

Been eying a buddys 372 though... Wonder if the M would run that!!! Seems like Delta Red runs a 268 or 372 or something like that doesn't he??
 
Stage I or II Super M? Stage one is ok. Stage 2 at that price isn't bad. I added a three point but take it off when I'm discing or planting cause I need the hydraulic lines. Live hydraulics in the stage II are really nice. Honestly though if you don't need the power of a Super M or even an M don't get one unless you like to spend time filling them with gas. Mine is a thirsty girl when I'm working her.
 
I'd say #2, I have a h with the Swartz wide front end, with good tires, now my ford 4610 just needed a tire last summer $300 for a used one put on it, and now the right side tire is gonna go pretty soon, lol, tires are not cheap.
 
I would take the 'Super' first.However,more important than that is the hydralic pump. Mag or belly? The 'mag' pump is live,1200 psi. The belly pump is 'dead',meaning you clutch it,no hydralics.About 800 psi.As to the M not haveing enough power,if the M wont pull it,the Super wont either.The swartz is a much better front than the IH front.Tighter turns is primary,they also steer a tad bit easier,too.Forget about that 3 bottom.Those M/SM tractors were made to pull 3 bottom in average midwest soil at sea level to about 1500 ft.Your higher altitude soils,plus you probably have sod,and maybe irrigation.You will be down to 2 bottom.There are 'old timers' here who talk of it taleing 2 Ms chained together to pull a 2 bottom tumble plow in sod pastures.Or they have cut the 2nd bottom off and only pulled one bottom.Pull 2 in 3rd,or 3 in 1st or second....Go ahead and spend the 300 on the three point. That will be money well spent.God luck to you.If I can help advise,just ask.I know you will make the best decision for you. Steve
 
Bryce in the 20+ years I was in the tire business, I saw a lot of those speeco wide fronts. Most were worn out, stick with the factory wide front will serve you for many years.
 
LOL I'd opt for something newer with IPTO and live hydraulics. Power steering is nice too!

When you get ready to buy the Swartz wide front here is the most desirable one even over the IH WFE and parts are available.

Me I in all honesty would not buy an M. I wouldn't give 2 cents for one. I have one plus a Farmall 1206, 2 8N's and a tractor loader backhoe. The 1206 dose all of the heavy work gets about 200 hours a year. The 8n's get about 100 each, TLB about 75 and the M maybe 20 but only if I have weeds to mow. If all I have to do is spread poo it's about 10 hours. If I had something like a 400 or 450 with PS it would get used more. The M is too big for little jobs and too small for the round baler or haybine. I could use it on the square baler but the 1206 with IPTO is much nicer on that.

Rick
 
I would rather have the 1206 too!!

For me, an M is going to be a HUGE tractor! Like I said, the HUGE fields around here are 15 acres, mine is 5 and a few farming guys are already jealous that I get the rights to it, for free!

I have been eying my neighbors haybine/swather. It is a tiny one, probably a 7 foot, maybe a 9. I THINK it is a Sperry/NH Something. I think that the M would run that no problem wouldn't it?

I am sure that he would let me borrow it. They had been using it for a LONG time, and finally bought a little bit newer Hesston last year, and this one never moved. It is about 15 min away on one of my tractors, maybe less on the M with the fast road gear....

I assume I could cut oats with that huh? Bryce
 
I have been running a 9' haybine with an H and now a 300 for a few years in moderate and light grass with some big hills. M will be rather big for a 7 footer, should be able to cut anything normal with no problem.
Zach
 
I've got a '51 John Deere G NF and it's mainly a "fun" tractor for me, but it'll do most anything, just not too convient with no live power or live hydraulics, but I've got a homemade 3 point set up I can put on in about 1/2 an hour and it works fine with a blade to plow snow or spread gravel or loose dirt if you don't get in a hurry and take it easy...tractor has 9 kinds of power and traction for this job. It'll pull 3-16's or a 12 foot disk anywhere...or an average size older baler and wagon or most any pull type combine or 2 row picker and wagon...turns about 60 horse on the belt. But it is strictly a man's tractor....nothing easy about it and it burns lotsa gas. I've got a '48 GW too, but with the wide front it's as awkward as all get out compared to the NF '51 G. Nice on soft or plowed ground though...fun too really. I love the challenge of these clunkers...
M's and H Farmalls are fun too, I've had and run the wheels of a couple of them too. Little easier to run and quiter than the putt-putts, but not as much fun or challenge....get boring after while. For a utility tractor I think those little Case jobs were pretty good and if you can find a decent one they are usually cheaper than a Ford or Ferguson.....
 
(quoted from post at 08:36:21 02/06/15) I would rather have the 1206 too!!

For me, an M is going to be a HUGE tractor! Like I said, the HUGE fields around here are 15 acres, mine is 5 and a few farming guys are already jealous that I get the rights to it, for free!

I have been eying my neighbors haybine/swather. It is a tiny one, probably a 7 foot, maybe a 9. I THINK it is a Sperry/NH Something. I think that the M would run that no problem wouldn't it?

I am sure that he would let me borrow it. They had been using it for a LONG time, and finally bought a little bit newer Hesston last year, and this one never moved. It is about 15 min away on one of my tractors, maybe less on the M with the fast road gear....

I assume I could cut oats with that huh? Bryce
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Bryce you need to come down off your mountain...I'd say 80% of the fields I brushhog my customers would love to have you farm them. We have cheap irrigation, too. If I was younger I would be out there planting organic oats and barley and making a fortune....as long as the weeds are organic, too, the customers don't care LOL!
 
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