Looking at a John Deere 3010

This last friday I went down to the district school yard to look at some old ran down equipment. My eye had caught this John Deere 3010 so I ask them would it be for sale. What type of a dollor figure do you think I would be looking at. It is not runing needs alot of work. My tractor blue book say's the high is 3520 and the Average is 1950. So how much is a fair price for a ran down JOhn Deere tractor would go for? Thanks Brent

If it is a gas motor it would be scrap value to me. The "New Generation" gas tractors are a PAIN to get to run right on regular gas these days. IF you are willing to put a high octane gas in it then it will run IF everything is working right.

As for value: If it is as rough as you say then $1500-2000 would be the range around here. If the sheet metal is good and straight then maybe $500 more.

If at all possible find somebody who is knowledgeable with New Generation tractors to look at it with you. It could offer possibilities or it could be a hopeless money pit. Things to look at but not limited to does the draft control yoke bushings leak, PTO works and if not why, gas motors are problematic, if diesel parts can be limited in availability? If you feel like taking a chance no more than scrap value and hopefully it has recently installed front and rear tires. If it's a diesel and needs a lot of work that could easily run 1500 dollars or more depending on what needs to be done.
I think if I was you maybe I would look at something such as a Ford 5000 where parts are plentiful and not extremely expensive.

I have a 3010 Diesel here in the shop that i just ordered $3100 parts for,, and then there is labor,, it's an old family tractor,,so they want to fix it..

I didn't know a gas 3010 was that cheap I'd like to find one

Be sure the pto stub shaft on the rear is bolted on tightly. If the bolts get loose during pto operation a tiny pin can get bent or broken inside of trans requiring a double trans housing split to repair.

I have a 3010 JD diesel that I bought for $1200 but then I spent $3000 to rebuild the engine. I have used it to plant corn with a JD 7000 four row planter and the unit seemed made for each other. It was a great step up for JD when they dropped the 2 cylinder models.

I bought a diesel several years ago for $3000. That one ran (for about a week). I ended up with over $7500 in it. It was something else every day with that thing. I finally traded it even money for an Oliver 1600 gas that needed an overhaul and I've been doing the happy dance every since.

And that great step up was why I quit Deere and went to Ford. Drove my uncles 3020 and 2010, also a 2020 at work and hated them, most uncomfortable thing built since the old Moline U tractor. You could not give me one of them for anything except to haul it to the crusher. And I had 5 2 cylinder tractors and loved them.

Dad has a 4020 gas and have not had any problems getting it to run right. GREAT tractor for cold weather operation and small jobs where you just start it up do a small job and then shut it off.
It is still capable of doing heavy work when called upon too.

(quoted from post at 07:50:57 01/19/15) And that great step up was why I quit Deere and went to Ford. Drove my uncles 3020 and 2010, also a 2020 at work and hated them, most uncomfortable thing built since the old Moline U tractor. You could not give me one of them for anything except to haul it to the crusher. And I had 5 2 cylinder tractors and loved them.

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Not all farmers agreed with you Leroy as JD new generation tractors sell better than most competitors tractors of the same era.

had a 3010 30 yrs ago ,good luck ,/,.wanted sparkplugs every month ,but it would always start ,, zenith carb seemed wrong for it ,, only way it would give any power was with air valve open ,, it would blowthe prettiest smoke rings , trouble is they cost a nikle each ..finally got it runnin like a champ and sold it with a wedding dress onit , got my money back ..

The 10 series ALWAYS need work.

Allan

We had a 4010 and a 4020 that were pretty decent. However we had neighbors who had 3010's and 2010's and a couple of 1010's. The smaller you go, the worse they get. Unless you figure on spending a bunch of money, look elsewhere. And EVERY 10 and 20 series JD I ever was around had leaky draft control shaft bushings. See an oil trail on the road? Follow it home. Yup, a JD owner. No longer true, of course. But it sure was in the day of the 10 and 20 series.

The 4010 we have had since new has been pretty trouble free.

JD,

I think the EFI would work well on the new gen tractors, I can do it for about a grand of materials. This would allow them to run on E85 if you want to, carburetor and distributor would be gone.

(quoted from post at 09:44:58 01/19/15) The 10 series ALWAYS need work.

Allan

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:lol: :lol: :lol: How many JD 10 series have you owned??? I guess IHC's run forever with no breakdowns? Is that the reason IHC went POOF?

Dad bought a '63 4010-D in December '68. Tractor still had the factory GY 45 degree tires on it, and had already been overhauled w/4020 kit. Four new tires, new paint, tune-up at the better of the two local dealers, and first day we take to the field spring of '69 we wondered where all the horse power was. Then found out it was burning 4-5 quarts of oil per tank of fuel.

Every day we used it was spent fixing something else on that tractor as opposed to doing fieldwork. Little stuff, like tie rod ends falling apart on the wfe, and the tractor never had a loader on it. Leaky water pump, draft bar seals, constant 24v battery/starter/generator/voltage reg issues. Lights never did work, but as long as the radio kept working I was o-k.

Finally had an injection pump guy who knew what he was doing rebuild the pump, pump set to 100-105 hp, really woke the old girl up! And in 40-50 hours blew the head gasket. Winter of '71/'72 the tractor got an in frame major rebuild, pump set back to stock with M&W pistons, new main/rod bearings, head rebuilt. Tractor ran fine for maybe 100 hours, then pto clutch went out. Shop put new pto & engine clutch in it and sold it for Dad. Tractor got an M & W turbo installed by new owner and about a year later the kid that bought it came back and wanted to know how much of the rearend/transmission rebuild Dad was going to pay for.... Ahhhhh NONE!

All we pulled with it was a Case 4-14 pull type plow, 12 ft disk, JD #30 pull type combine over 20-30 acres of oats a year, 4 row frt mounted cultivator... Maybe 100-125 hours of use a year, sat from early July when the corn was laid by till April when we started spring fieldwork, then the daily breakdowns would start all over again. Never the same thing, always something different.

While we're trying to keep this 4010 running, I'm working for the BTO a mile down the road 60 to 90 hours per week running his pair of '64 4020's. The only problem he had with either of them was loosing the hyd pump drive coupling in his fieldwork tractor, the one with wfe& cab. Only ever ran the 3-pt and a remote cylinder. Never had a loader or bale spear on it. Funny, but that coupling was the only common problem our 4010 never had. What a money pit that tractor was! Paid $3600 for the tractor, and probably paid close to TWICE that much in repairs over the 3-1/2 years we ran it.

I know but I still know people buy junk as new thinking it will be good.

The green skivvy crowd will get their undies in a wad with the bad mouthin of 3010's.

Ihc and Oliver both never break down they only
burn one tank of fuel per thousand hours and the
dealer is so great if ever it even needs an oil
change the oil filter is free but you don't have
to worry about that because they are so efficient
the oil doesn't ever get dirty

Only thing worse than green undies is you pink
nnalert guys that have nothing better to do than
run there mouth about how great there brand x no
longer even a tractor company machines are .

Is this you?

Maybe selling all those high priced JD parts kept them in business!

Lets see here. Your dad bought a 1963 tractor in 1968. That is 5 years the previous owner had to abuse the crap out of it which would explain burning 4 to 5 quarts of oil per fuel tank fillup. The last guy no doubt seldom if ever changed the oil, abused the PTO, ran it over rocks explaining the loose tie rod sockets.
When your dad bought it either the salesman had no clue on that tractor's history and was blind to obvious abuse such as the tie rods or the salesman misrepresented the tractor. If Deere tractors were as bad as the one you had on average then they should have gone out of business about 1975 as word would have spread through the coffee shops, churches, and auction sales not to buy any such tractor. I was not there in 1968 to see what 3600 dollars bought but some guys rush into deals because the price seems almost too good.
I will not say that our tractor has never had work done to it but even my father who has no brand loyalty says that tractor owes us nothing.

I bet every one here that is bashing the 10 series also had the best preventative maintainance program ever. JD was light years ahead of the competition when the 10 series cane out. It sounds to me like if it broke while using it it probably had evidence of upcoming failure long before. Tie rod sockets don't just fall off one day. They were shot long before. I would bet the same people think the 86 series IH are the best tractors ever built.

I still think the first owner pounded the daylights out of it. Just because he could afford to trade it off after 5 years does not mean the guy was a great caretaker. Being five years old unless he parked it in a salt mine or sulfuric acid vat should mean pretty good paint on it. What little I remember the adults talking about tractors back then a GOOD 4010 diesel with WFE should have brought more than 3600 dollars in 1968. 4020 diesels with WFE even syncros were just a little over 8000 dollars unless the dealer was a good discounter. Used tractors the size of a 4010 were in high demand back then so I would think a good low houred tractor like that should have been at least in the low 4's. I don't doubt the poster had problems with that 4010 but there is a lot more to the story. Maybe as a young man there were parts of the story he never heard or his dad never heard.

That should read Factory New for the 8000 dollar 4020 diesel synchro WFE 1968.

BUYER BEWARE, got a good dose of running a 1010 if the rest were anything like them it ain't much

(quoted from post at 02:15:18 01/20/15) Is this you?

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hich one is you?lol if you can't beat them join them(ford) rotfl

(quoted from post at 02:36:09 01/21/15) I bet every one here that is bashing the 10 series also had the best preventative maintainance program ever. JD was light years ahead of the competition when the 10 series cane out. It sounds to me like if it broke while using it it probably had evidence of upcoming failure long before. Tie rod sockets don't just fall off one day. They were shot long before. I would bet the same people think the 86 series IH are the best tractors ever built.

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D never made a bad tractor...They never made a good one either.

They made some bad tractors. But to say they never made a good one is ludicrous. They made plenty good ones and I will say it again when they came out with the 10 series they were light years ahead of every body else. I mean who doesn't like synchronizers and closed center hydraulics. And I can't forget a tractor that can actually be shifted. The PTO design wasn't the best but it was still not that bad. They also made a diesel that doesn't need glow plugs when its 70 degrees either. If you want to have a discussion bring reasons to the table, not just childish come backs.

light years, wow they should still be building them then until everyone catches up!A discussion? no thanks. don't get made because everybody don't share your love for jd or have the same opinion of them.it was a poke anyways guess it worked. :wink:

This whole thing is funny. Every tractor company claimed to be better than the others. Some made it and others failed. A lot of IH failing was bad decisions at the top too numerous to list. For a little fact checking IH outsold JD the last several years before they closed their doors. By a wide margin. But JD was operating at about 5-6% profit and IH was trying to do it on 2%. My question is how did, what most considered to be a 3rd rate company at the time, buy out a 2nd rate company that even though no longer US owned is still giving JD some stiff competition?

As far as the 10 and 20 series JD's are concerned. Folks around here loved the 4010/20's. The 30's were not as well received and many people who bought them got rid of them as quickly as possible. In fact YT is the only place I've ever seen or heard anyone claiming that they were a great tractor. Everyone else I've ever known who has/had one hated them because of leaks and other problems.

The OP ask for advice on the value of a non running 3010 gas. Not a running argument over which tractor company was better.

So, not knowing a lot about the 3010 but with some experience with the 20....not running, most likely abused I wouldn't offer too much over scrap unless the rubber is really good/near new.

Rick

oldtanker
1st let me state I own JD,Ford & Kubota tractors plus other brand hay cutter & rake so I think I'm not biased. I was a JD dealer service manager during the heyday of the JD 30 series and I darn sure don't remember all the customers trading off the 30 series. In fact they liked the SGB(cabs). Yes the early 30 series had some final drive issues but as far as I remember JD repaired them. As far as IHC tractors outselling JD tractors during the 70'-80's I'd like to see your proof.