Deere dealership question from below, and agco....

OliverGuy

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I think there's some weird things that go around our place compared to many of you. Basically no one has agco equipment and the nearest dealer is an hour or more away. I have never seen a Massey or agco tractor in the field around here. You guys never talk too much about new holland, but we have a decent dealer close. We have one john Deere dealer in this county, but guess what no ag only lawn and construction. Isn't that strange? This is flat indiana and most of the county is farm ground.
 
Which county is that?I think anymore there is getting to be a lot of counties like that.The general consensus is that someday all of our agriculture will be pushed to south america so the real estate agents can turn the rest of the country into housing developments and strip malls and acre gobbling interstate interchanges and huge car dealerships to serve them. More tax revenue and commissions for those that can convince the gullible that what they got isnt what they want !! lol
 
Around here the NH dealers may have 10% of the market and the MF dealers 5%. The rest is JD and CIH. So NH or MF is not much of a worry around here.
 
JD ticked a lot of folks off by merging the dealers intot the biggest conglomerate around and closing up 2 dealerships entirely here. Not sure it will change much, but sure has the natives riled up.

There is a case dealership way, way at the other end of the county, 1/2 hour drive. No JD dealerships as of December. NH closed up a few years ago.

Oh, there is an Agco dealership, probably closest to me now, in the county. They do Bueler tractors and rotary gleaner combines used to be a very popular Oliver place. They said they got into Gleaner later, and don't really support the older conventional so like I have, so I drive past thrm for my Silver combines.

I'm lucky to have 3 very good Gleaner dealers an hour away in three directions, between them I can get parts pretty easily for an old combine. Two of them are NH dealers as well, so can get my Blie parts as well.

Use to be a good handful of Allis tractors around, but never see Massey around here, never was a dealer around these parts.

Paul
 
I did forget because it changed more recently-there is a cat dealer here that is trying to gain an agco foothold i guess. But never seen a wheeled cat or agco tractor out working around here. I guess this considered an agco dealership? I bought some spra coupe parts there and they have a couple ag repair guys. They worked on my cat 55 once. I'd say they are 95% construction equip though.
 
Fiat really has there hands full with the IH/NH thing. They really want to drop one or consolidate but the Ih side has the combine market while the NH has the hay market. Kubota could get into the large tractor market and combine market by purchasing the ih line but think it would be cheaper or more profitable to just grow into it. As for AGCO and Massey I would not be surprised if they make it thru the next turn down of the ag market. They are loosing market share ever day. I appraised a 4 year old Massey deal the other day two 4 wheel drive 200+ hp cab tractor and a combine. When I gave the bank the figures they like to have died. Had an auction last Saturday and it turned out worse than I had told them. Brought less than 30% of new price and it was all less than 4 years old.
 
There's quite a few new holland near here, I figured that would be a little rare in other areas. Seems like the German baptist are big users.
 
We still have a good many part time hobby farmers around here with a variety of older stuff from a variety of brands. IH used to be strong here, but not much newer red stuff found here now. The real full time "farm for a living" row crop farmers are predominantly Deere to the tune of something like 75%+ of the area market. 3 Deere "big box chain store" dealers within a couple hours of here. 1 is less than 10 minutes from my house. 1 pretty much worthless IH dealer near by. 2 New Holland dealers that sell skid steers and back hoes mostly, and a few tractors. 1 of them has never sold a combine in the 40+ years they've been in business. We have a couple extremely good MF dealers. They cater primarily to hay/cattle farmers. THey also support all the AGCO orphan brands very well. There's a decent CaseIH dealer to the north of us about 3 hours drive, but too far to be a player in this immediate area. We have an extremely good Kubota dealer close by who's starting to gather a good following in their limited market.
 
I've been waiting patiently for that big Kubota. My guy says they'll hit the shores out west first. He says I need to go out there, buy one and ship it home! Oh a couple more years on the 125 won't hurt me. All the bto's will have fun with me in the spring. Putting auto steer in the 125 this month before planting. That will get them laughing.
 
We are going to have two of the large units here on the ground in Tennessee mid to late March. Have deposit on one and pretty sure the other one is sold. What set up are you going to use for the auto steer?
 
Just the cheapie flip on motor so we can put it on my cat for fall tillage and maybe the combine in beans.
 
agco upset a lot of guys when they pulled the plug on Valtra round here. They told us we had to buy Massey. It's not panning out so well for them. Guys aren't buying agco products when it's time to trade. and Deutz has a bad name in this area from the days of trans problems in DX 120 and such.So thats a hard sell to . Case IH/ New Holland and Deere are the top brands round here. You see the odd off brand to like Landini,and Mcormick but not many.
 
it's thirty miles to a deere or Case IH dealer here. It's over 100 to any Agco dealer. The small dealers all closed in the 80's.

There are only green and red tractors here. I have noticed a lot of the big green guys are turning red. The red tractors are cheaper.
 
(quoted from post at 06:35:51 01/17/15) The color in the field is usually determined by the quality of the dealer.

You nailed it!

When I retired from the Army and came back here there was a very good AGCO dealer 12 miles away. You saw mostly JD and CIH but a fair number of AGCO products. The 2 brothers that owned the dealership decided to retire and sold out. A guy who is trying to grown his one store into many bought them out. First thing they did was ship a bunch of parts back to AGCO. Then they closed the service department. Now you have to take stuff to the main store or pay them to haul it for you. That's close to 50 miles. Need a part for an older piece of equipment? Pay to have it next day or wait a week or more. I'm slowly replacing everything I have supported by AGCO because of that. I know several others doing the same thing. AGCO is shooting themselves in the foot by allowing their dealers to get away with this stuff. The main store doesn't have other dealers close by. So they are really the only game in town.

Rick
 
Lucky me. I have 5 Agco dealers in a reasonable distance,all with different owners. Deere is farther away and from what I can gather,no sense going to any except the ones with one certain name. Apparently I've been "assigned" a dealer. Not that there's much choice. There are only two different names on the door of all of them anyway.
 

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