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I can't seem to get registered at the cattle website I wanted so here goes...

Fairly new to farming, have some (black, possibly angus) heifers we raised from 600lbs that are very used to us walking around them (have 2 boys that are always in the field). Had them for nearly 2 years.

Got a bull (registered angus) this July, he has been a little stand offish which is fine, but follows the heifers wherever they go. Have had no problem out of him yet as far as walking around him. Yesterday I put out hay, and I was driving the tractor through them since they were standing in the way as they are apt to do. Well, he is stubborn usually and doesn't like to move, this time he puts his head down and acts aggressive towards the tractor. Not "bullfight" aggressive, but the first time I have seen him act this way. He basically challenged the tractor.

We have people out on the farm all the time and kids are walking to the ponds in the pasture all the time. Is this a bad sign? I will get rid of him in a heartbeat if needed. He supposedly came from a very docile line. He usually either ignores me in the pasture or moves away from me unless I want him to go through a gate, and then he tries to go the other way.

Thanks.
 
Bulls are 1/2 way to wild as they mature. Some
stay very mild tempered, some become nasty. When
around females they become protective and
sometimes aggressive even if normally mellow. Were
it me I would not allow passage or common
occupancy with a bull unless I had a history with
it that lasted years, and then with caution. Jim
 

as to the tractor, be patient,, ease forwards a bit and be patient.. dont overcrowd him, but dont back off.. give him room but make it clear the tractor is there,, and will eventually go forward.... but make him realize,,, first its not a threat.. second he need to just move to let if pass.. He will soon ignore the tractor pretty much and just move out of its way.. He will realize it will not hurt him or the ladies.
 
Thanks, I was afraid of that. There are not many local people I know to ask, and the ones I have are all over the map.

The plan is to calve this (late) spring, and have them re-bred by him as soon as possible and sell him. I don't know how long after they birth that this can get done but that is the plan. He is right at 2 years old himself.

Until then, I will keep visitors out of the pasture they are in. I have distinct memories when I was young of being chased by bulls when I would enter their pasture. And I have also been in many where they just ignored me, better safe than sorry.
 
(quoted from post at 09:02:16 01/14/15) Any heifers in heat or close?
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No, I was a little late getting him but they "should" have been bred late July/early August.

I am hoping to avoid any calving problems by letting them mature to right around 22-24months before breading. He had a good calving ease score IIRC, but I don't know much in that area.
 
(quoted from post at 11:10:15 01/14/15)
I am hoping to avoid any calving problems by letting them mature to right around 22-24months before breading. He had a good calving ease score IIRC, but I don't know much in that area.
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IMHO when utilizing a LBW bull waiting until heifers are 22-24 months old to breed them is too long. Once heifers get to 750#s I'd turn the bull in with them. As far as the bull's temperament is concerned I'd ""never trust a bull"" no matter if he's gentle or wild.
 
There have been more than one farmer killed in the past by a "friendly" bull. You have to treat them as though they are ready to turn on you any time. You never know what can set them off.
 
Pretty much boils down to this. You can raise cattle or you can have a petting zoo,but a bull doesn't belong in a petting zoo if that's your choice.
 
Next time buy a young bull and let him grow up around your kids. Dont let them pet him, but teach him you are his friend. Take him a flake or two of second cutting or a ear of corn every day or two. Teach him that when you walk around the cows that you are just one of the herd so to speak. I have small children, and 50 momma cows. I wouldnt be able to sleep at night if I thought my kids might be in danger if they sneak out to the pasture. It happens. How can kids get an interest in farming if you dont start them young. The cattle see these kids every day so they dont even pay attention to them. Any cattle that are not as tame as a puppy sell, get rid of that blood line. When I sell feeder cattle in the spring I always get complimented on how tame and easy going my stock are. Took a few years, but now they are kid safe and used to tractors and people. Never have been able to get cows to like a dog though. I have pure bred red and black Angus cattle. I dont think breed matters. Your bull might just need a little work. I let them know the tractor feeds them, but is the BIGGEST bull on the farm. I drive slow around them, but will bump one out of the way if they dont move. They learn. I did put a car horn that is loud on the loader tractors. Its when they start pawing at the ground that I worry. No bull is worth any person. If he doesnt come around SELL him. Al
 
My limited knowledge doesn't usually qualify me to offer advice but I can definitely chime in on this one.....

Never trust or turn your back on a bull regardless of how mild tempered he may seem.
 
Is there an AI breeding service in your area? It
doesn't sound like you have a big enough herd to
justify your own nitrogen tank and semen supply, but
if there's an AI technitian that covers your area,
you could have your cows/heifers AI'ed and eliminate
the costs and dangers associated with bulls.
I have my own nitrogen tank... the worst "my bulls"
can do is give me frost bite. :) And I have 4
available right now... no way I could have 4 bulls
on my farm.
 
I have a couple bulls right now that shove on tractor tires or the roll of hay itself when setting out hay, I mostly figure they are just playing with the biggest thing in the pasture.
 
I had an Angus bull that figured it was playtime when I went through the yard with a bale on the loader. He would head butt the bale,try to knock it off..I would put the tractor in low/low and just idle along until he was head to head and then I'd pull the throttle down and give him a good pushing, by the time I got to the feeder, I would get off the tractor to cut the strings off before I dumped it in, he would be right there but he never seemed to bother me ,BUT , I was raised on a farm where the number 1 rule was"NEVER TRUST A BULL , NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A BULL" I usually kept the tractor between me and the bull. My neighbours used to get a kick out of the "bull fight" and you know he could rock the tractor pretty good shoving on the loader. He would also put his head in the feeder and lift the side of it off the ground. he once knocked my hay elevator off of its frame while he was scratching his back on it. Once some small squares fell off the wagon going through the yard and he got one ,got down on his front knees and gored the bale into the ground..after watching that I understood completely how bulls kill farmers. Other that our daily fight he was a tame quiet guy that bwould let me spray him for flies and curry comb his back..but I alwys had a hockey stick shaft in my hand and he knew what it represented. Bulls can seem tame and they will start playing and kill you. Did I mention"NEVER TRUST A BULL NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON A BULL!
 
"Next time buy a young bull and let him grow up around your kids. Dont let them pet him, but teach him you are his friend."

Wanna bet?

When we milked cows and both boys traded off milking with me,we had one that was like a dog. You couldn't keep him out of the barn when we were milking. He'd come in,turn a circle and lay down in the middle of the floor. The boys would take a red paint stick and paint his face up like he was wearing makeup and lipstick.

I took off and went to Missouri on vacation one time. At about eight o'clock the second morning,the phone rang,it was one of them asking "what in h3ll do you want us to do with these cows?" The bull wouldn't let them get the cows past him up the lane. He had attacked both of them. Knocked one of them down and tossed the other in the air. I told them not to shoot him if they didn't have to. Told them to call a local cattle hauler to come and see what he could do with him first. He showed up with three pickup loads of guys and they got him in the barn and loaded him.
He was just the biggest pet we'd ever had,but he turned in the blink of an eye.
He wasn't the only calm bull I ever had that went berserk in the blink of an eye. Who knows what it takes to set them off. Never seems to be the same thing twice,but they WILL go nuts if you keep them long enough.
 
All too true.
Hasn't been a bull here (except for calves) since about '75.
Used to deliver round bales to a neighbor who had a bull. He carried a hammer in his pocket when he opened the gate so I could drop off the bales. That would be TOO CLOSE for me, if I needed to use it!
 
Mrlund I stand corrected. Guess I didnt know much about cows or bulls. Last bull I shipped was over 10 when he retired. Guess I didnt wait long enough for him to turn. I have seen some turn though and they were on the bus come the first of the week. I was taught to never trust a bull, but never be scared either. I own this farm and am the boss. If I have to fear an animal, or my kids safety he goes. I do beleive you can have livestock that are safe to be around. Why would anyone want to farm if they had to be fearful each time they did a pasture walk. I walk mine at least once to twice each day. That would suck. I farm because I love the lifestyle and its the best place to raise kids. Maybe I should just leave them in the house where it is safe.
 
Our neighbor had a friendly bull until one day the bull cornered him in the barn. Only broke his arm but luckily he wasn't killed. Bull took off into the field. Neighbor's wife called the local butcher, then called my brother to bring his rifle. One shot and the butcher did the rest.
 
I used to go out on foot to get the cows to milk. Like I said,that's what the boys were doing when they got hit. I got knocked down myself one time. I walked around the corner of the barn and must have startled the bull. He knocked me down before I knew what hit me. Luck for me all I got out of it was a bruise and a torn pair of pants. I was able to roll out of the way when he backed up to hit me again and I got over a gate,but that was the end of him. If he even saw me in the yard after that he'd start bellering and pawing the ground. The next sale day he was out of here. I don't think it takes any more than a shadow to set them off and drive them nuts sometimes.
When I go out around these beef cattle,I won't do it on foot unless I'm close enough to get through a fence before a bull can get to me. I take the 4 wheeler or a tractor to check things.
If you've never been hit by one,you're a lucky man. I have been and like I said,so have both of the boys. You'll never know how hard their heads are or the power that they have until it happens. It's one heck of a helpless feeling.
 
When I was just a little kid,Dad had one that went nuts. He went through the fence and took off storming the neighborhood. I remember my mother calling all the neighbors and telling them to keep their kids in the house. He called the local livestock hauler and they went out looking for him. They ended up shooting him way back on the back of a neighbor's place. They dragged him up in to the truck with a tractor and hauled him off to the slaughter house.
You couldn't do that these days of course,they have to walk in under their own power.
The father of a field rep for Michigan Milk Producers was killed by one. He trusted it enough to get in a pen with it and the bull took him down and mauled him to death.
They're an insane wild animal and need to be treated that way.
 
Yes they do need to be treated as such. My dad always said watch the cows and respect the bull.
 
On a somewhat different note, I worked on a horse breeding farm, this one stallion was nuts, after biting the vets right ear off, they finally put a wire cage tied to his halter over his nose and mouth he wore that until he died, ate drank with ect, he was one dangerous animal, but,, he was a good runner! Lol
 
Hey Randy. Just reading your posts, but were the bull's you are talking about Holstein? I was thinking you dairy'd but might be wrong. I know that although you never trust a bull, Holstein seem to be notorious for being mean. My Grandad had a dairy and a Holstein bull got my Uncle down and darn near killed him.
We usually had anywhere from 4 to 8 beef bulls around all the time when I was growing up. We had around 250 cows. Although I was never close to getting in trouble with one, I guarantee I never gave them the chance. A person can let kids in the same pastures with bulls and maybe never have an issue, but the one time it went bad, it would be a nightmare to remember.
Any bull can be trouble, but it seems like Holsteins are notorious for being mean and tricky. Bob
 
No such thing as a kid friendly or people friendly bull when you are in his domain. For him it is all about driving off the competition for the "girls" whether justified or not.
 
(quoted from post at 13:34:40 01/14/15) Holstein seem to be notorious for being mean.
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I have heard from several that dairy bulls including Jersey go nuts.

I don't want pets, just want to be able to enjoy the pasture without fear. At any rate, I was hoping to get a second set of calves from him but may sell him before. I originally wanted to AI but large animal vets are extinct in this county. Then everyone who rented bulls was fresh out, so it took some time to find one I could buy.

This is the local story that freaked everyone out this fall:

http://westkentuckystar.com/News/Lo...ty/West-Paducah-Man-Killed-by-Angry-Bull.aspx
 
I would definitely keep the kids away from him. I just got done moving two young bulls that used to be gentle a couple of months ago. Not so this morning.
 
Every one that I mentioned that hurt or killed somebody was a Holstein yes. I've been running mainly Angus or Angus cross for the last dozen years. I'm not right on the ground with them daily like I was with the Holsteins. I've never had one of these go absolutely nuts,but they can be hard to move at turnout and when I try to take them out from being with the cows. They'll drop their heads,paw the ground and make my blood run cold. No doubt in my mind that they'd run me down if I was foolish enough to let my guard down.
I helped a neighbor load a Hereford one time and that one had gone insane. I honestly feared for my life even being within eyesight of him.
 
First thing you do is get a ring in his nose and as soon as it's healed up you get a fairly heavy chain on that ring. The second thing you do is that you don't let anybody in your family in that pasture with that bull alone. The third thing you do is don't let anybody outside your family anywhere near a bull, no matter how "tame" they may seem. A bull can turn on you in an instant. People can and do get mauled or killed by bulls.
 
Someone told me angus are some of the most aggressive breeds. Never leave strangers in with cattle especially the bull. Once my brother came out, the pigs got out. One went in by cows, he went in and right back out when he saw the bull(stranger). They tend to go for strangers first; unless you can convince the bull that they can be trusted or you yourself is a bigger threat. It takes a long time to build trust in animals and less to break it. To many people is maybe tipping yours over(being shy in nature from the start). As all the rest said never trust a bull but I'll also add the "boss" cow (the most aggressive female) is just as bad. Had a "boss" once that flipped the bull that was a few hundred pounds bigger.
 
I agree that all bulls are dangerous and some breeds seem to be more of an issue than others. You might want to check into a beef Shorthorn bull, there are horned and polled versions. But they tend to be less ornery than other breeds, again not to be trusted, but lower risk.

My Dad and brothers have raised registered Shorthorns for 50 years, and showed them at the local fairs, state fairs and national expositions. The Shorthorn always seem to be better behaved than the other breeds.

Rich
 
First rule of dealing with bulls--NEVER TRUST ONE. Neighbor had a bull his kids could (and did) walk right underneath--I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions on his parenting skills--until the day the bull put the neighbor on his back, luckily right next to one of the few fences on the farm that would hold him. He just turned, charged, and knocked him down with no indication whatsoever that he was going to do anything of the sort, nor any reason for doing it. They got him in the barn with the aid of a 30-06 bullet between his legs, and the next day it took 4 good-sized guys (I got to help, as said neighbor had a mysterious errand he had to go on when it came time to load the bull!) to get him in the truck to the sales barn. Yes, you can get a bull to eat out of your hand, yes, some bulls will follow you around like a puppy dog, and it's entirely possible that "ol Brutus there hasn't hurt a flea in his life", but if you trust one, you do it at your peril. A bull is a whole lot bigger and stronger than you are, and many people have found out the hard way that they often give no sign when they go from a big, lovable goof to a ton of high-speed destruction. To have kids (or women, particularly at certain times I dare say you can figure out for yourself) around a bull is just begging for tragedy, and it's difficult to blame the bull for acting like Nature intended him to.
 
Yup when they are that close, it's time for the old Super Blackhawk or a couple of 12 gauge slugs. Only ever got myself in one instance where I had to shoot one. He had my wife up a tree so I already knew there was gonna be trouble and was ready for him. He came for me the instant he saw me.

Ya know, it's a real bugger to bleed a big bull with a dull jack knife...................
 
I raised a couple of Texas Longhorn steers after we got rid of all the cows just to have a couple on the place. Still have one of them. Raised them both from calves and they would eat out of your hand.
All of a sudden I started noticing one of them getting a little bronky. Over a few weeks I kind of watched him a little out of the corner of my eye. He weighed 1996 lbs and had horns that were over 6 feet long from tip to tip. He was about 6 or 7 years old. All of a sudden one day he took my wife and put her inside one of the bale feeders. I took after him with a pipe and although he did take off, for a minute I wasn't sure. I got him in the barn and loaded him in the trailer and headed to the salebarn. This was Sunday and the sale was Monday. When I unloaded him I told the guy that I wasn't sure, but I was afraid he might be a little goofy so to watch out. Guy said no problem and headed off after him down the alley. When the steer hit the end of the alley, he turned and headed after the guy who I don't think believed me. Put him up on the top of an 8 foot fence. When I left, the guy was sitting there trying to figure out what to do. Kind of funny, but it's not that I didn't warn him.
I guess the moral of this is that all are really not far removed from wild animals. Any time you trust and animal too far, you better watch your back.
On another note, my BIL got out the other day to tag a new born calf. While he was tagging it the cow hit him from behind and was working him over good. He finally got crawled, knocked under his pickup where he got away. Beat him up bad but no broken bones. He has had 6 calves from this cow and she never gave a hint that she had a mean streak in her. Again, just goes to show you. Bob
 
I'm more afraid of a new momma than I am a bull. I finally made a cage that goes on the three point of the tractor to tag new calves. Even then I've had cows try to climb right over the top of it and get in there with me. Cattle are nuts,all the way around. It's just nature.
 
Notice a trend here? Have great respect for cattle.

Bulls I've been around where raised from calves on the farm.
Manhandled and borderline physically abused while they where
small enough to do that. Point is the bull needs to be a little stand
offish all the time but not so wild they can't be worked in the chute.
Cows are easier and we had some that we had halter trained. Even
at that their attitude can change dramatically once that calf is on
the ground.

For a small scale/hobby operation I wouldn't own a bull. I'd rent one or have my cows artificially inseminated. Best way to control when the calves hit the ground. Far cheaper than maintaining a bull that's only needed once a year.
 
I would never trust a bull and it doesn't matter what color or breed
he is I would not turn my back on them. Also a fresh cow that might
think that you might harm her calf needs to be respected. She can
also take you out in a heartbeat.
 
My neighbor, a lifetime cattleman, was trying to convince me to go the AI route by saying, about bulls, "What they don't tear up, they s_ _t on!" That is pretty well correct. But I had a whole lot better calving rate when I did get the Angus bull. I hated to let him go--he became sort of the neighborhood bull, as I rented or loaned him out to several people with a couple of cows to breed.
 
Plain and simple and no offence intended by any means, but you are waiting for a time bomb to go off if you have anyone in your pasture with a bull.
I have had several aquaintances killed by their 'quiet' bull....

Ben
 
I would only have the bull out on pasture when he was needed. My bulls are in strong lots or pins the rest of the time. Every Bull I have had in the last 20 years is halter broke too. I spend some time with them just about everyday. I never let kids or women of any age around a bull.

You want to see a bull go nuts have a women be around when its her "time" of the month. They can easily smell the woman. I had an older bull a while back that would stand at the fence and bawl when the wife was outside if it was that time. The rest of the time he did not pay her any attention.

You can feed that bull in a pen or strong fenced lot, with not much hay and ground feed easier than keeping people out of your pasture. It would be much safer for any kids too.
 
My dad had a uncle that was killed by a bull.

The bull was handled daily to feed; water; clean out its stall/corral area. Problem was there was no escape routes installed in the pen.
Bull caught him in a bad spot and lets just say it did not end pretty.

Never and I mean never trust a bull especially in a small area.
 
It really sounds to me like he was just playing, but don't kid yourself none, bulls are nothing to turn your back on when they are acting rambunctious. Keeping your eye out is just kind of a given no matter what temperment of bull you are around. A cow or a bull, or even a horse for that matter, can go off the deep end at any given time and yes they can eat your lunch especially if they catch you by suprize. I really can't answere ya as to wether the bull needs to go down the road or not, but if you and your family and friends are going to be around these cattle you have then all of ya need to be educated so to speak about being around them and having your gaurd up at all times even if your animals are petting zoo worthy. I've been around all kinds of cattle for many years. Making yourself safe at all times and in any situation is the key here since any animal can turn on ya. My 2 cents.
 
After reading all these posts about mean bulls I am not sure why bulls are not outlawed. Never knew that many people have been killed by a bull. Not sure I have even heard of a death by bull in this area, but I dont live in the real farm country. I wasnt lucky enough to be on a dairy farm and then switch to beef. We have only been raising beef on this stretch of road for 5 generations. Sorry, if I had a animal that I was afraid of I sure wouldnt like farming much. My wife ear tags and bands all calves at three days by herself. Didnt think I was putting her at such risk. Guess I will leave the kids at the house and so much for FAMILY farming. Better make sure they wear helmets when riding their trikes like the city kids do. Now what do I do with my better halves 500 lbs. bore? He gets out and follows her around the feedlot while she does chores. Maybe his is a closet man eater. Wife says it is all about respect. Treat them right, they will treat you right. Our cattle are tame cause we spend lots of time around them. In turn they know, and like us.
 
We always rent bulls for 2 years per bull. Now all my cows are tame and can be hand fed. So when they are out on pasture I take a bucket of alfalfa cubes and walk out amongst them and hand feed the cows. The bulls do not get hand fed but I feel safe when around the cows even with the bull there. But we did get one bull one time that would have his moments when out in the pasture. When me moved the cows home and separated the bull he would not stay in the lot and when you tried to round him up he would charge. It was so bad I rounded him up with the farm pickup and my 4020 and he would charge the tractor. Needless to say he got sold. What was different about this bull which came from the same guy we got bulls from for years is that the guy started not wintering or raising the bulls. When he raised them he would walk in the yard of bulls and feed then corn with a bucket. Him and his dad did that for years because they said it made the bulls less wild and more used to people. I always "trusted" his bulls. And by that I mean you never trust a bull but you shouldn't have to be afraid to walk with your cows. I would sell that bull and get a different one. Part of my enjoyment of farming is walking with the cows in the pasture and I could never have live stock if I had to be afraid.
 
Thank you MR. 4020guy. I wasnt able to say what you did in short words. I too am a believer in a 5 gallon bucket with ear corn. I have taught my cows to come up to the barn with this method. Learned it from my Grandma 40 some years ago. Shake that bucket and call. 60 acres away they will come running for their treat. Each day while you check cows a little corn. ear or two for each one. Soon they look forward to seeing you. Years back I bought some skinny ones off a ranch and within a few weeks they didnt mind me at all. A Little treat will do wonders.
 
Years ago when I was 23, I learned (the hard way) to have a very healthy respect for Cattle, they're totally unpredictable. I had gone out with an older male friend to see a mutual friend who was a Cattle Rancher. The Rancher friend had just done his "annual roundup" of his open-range cattle and it was branding & castrating time. Since I had been raised as a "City kid" this was something that I had never seen before, and I was interested. I was in the corral talking to my Rancher friend, and one of the cowhands had roped a yearling Bull and was dragging it into the corral. Without any warning the Bull lunged at the cowhands horse, as the horse sidestepped away the rope went slack and the Bull made an abrupt 90 degree turn, took about 6 long strides and nailed ME right in the chest. Cowhands got another rope on him, wrestled him to the ground, and tied his feet. While I caught my breath, picked myself up off the ground & dusted myself off, they branded him. I "GOT EVEN", one of the cowhands called me over to the Bull and taught me how to Castrate the Bull. After all of the branding & castrating was done we cooked all of the testicles. First time I had ever eaten "Mountain Oysters", even got to eat the ones from "MY" Bull (they were delicious). The ultimate payback! LOL.

To this day the lower half of my left ribcage is still stove in from where that Bull hit me.

Doc :>)
 
Is this a bad sign?

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My father was stomped into a manure pile by a shorthorn bull. His life was saved by a) the fact it was spring and the manure had thawed and b) his brother with a pitch fork to drive off the bull.
 
I will say that 1 nite I had to help my neighbors round up cattle. There was 30 cows and 5 bulls that got out and I can't stand rounding up other peoples cattle because you don't know them and of course in the mechanized world they rile them up with 4 wheelers. I've always had better luck with my cows leading them with the feeding tractor and a bale instead of chasing them with pickups.
 
Yep. We raised Angus beef, never ever trust a bovine especially a bull. Neighbors Angus bull rode a Holstein milk cow right through the side of a barn one time. Brother and I were in the yard when it happened. Big bang and boards flying everywhere. They would have killed somebody if they got in the way. Pigs are dangerous too, naturally protective and aggressive.
 
If you want to enjoy your pasture without fear or
risk of serious physical injury to you or your
family sell the cattle and buy some rabbits!
 
I had once borrowed a red Angus bull who was gentle as could
be. The only problem was, when 2000 lbs of bull wants his ears
scratched, he will toss you into the fence if you aren't quick about
it. He had no ill will, just much bigger than a man. I've also had
other bulls that were fine to be around, but would challenge
machinery. Kinda funny to have one pick a fight with a dozer while I was pushing snow out of the pen. I've had to deal with
many more ornery cows that mean bulls over the years. Then
there was that one bull that could clear a 6 foot fence...
 
Sorry to hear about your Father's encounter with the bull, it shows that anything can go wrong.

Was it a purebred or a cross-bred bull?

Rich
 
You keep telling yourself that. You put way too much trust in nature.

You will probably never have an issue. I hope you don't. I have been around cattle all my life. And I'm not talking about 2 or 3 cows. I'm sure not scared of them, but if you think I'm not at least cautious enough to try and stay one step ahead of them you are touched. I have seen too many instances of pets gone bad. And to be honest, 1 instance will be all it takes to make you a true believer. Bob
 
If everyone in the family is carful and the animals recognize them as "safe" there usually no problem. I will go along with that sentence: "treat them right ..." but never know when one will have a bad day and someone get on the wrong side. I was in the barn since I could walk but was always told to watch out for and be carful around the animals. Even if they were tame enough I could lay on top of them all day.
 
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