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Dan in Ohio
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12 gauge pump w/BB shot always ready and waiting in my barn. Tired of waiting on crows. :wink:
12 gauge pump w/BB shot always ready and waiting in my barn. Tired of waiting on crows. :wink:
Motorcraftman
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Actually theres Not anything You can Do... unless it was Noisy, then You could Make a Complaint about that otherwise.....No. Larry
I'd love to have one if they ever come up with guidelines for what's legal. To be able to sit down at the computer,set a pre determined course to check cattle,fences or crops,then sit it out on the deck,send it off and watch in real time on the computer screen. That would be great. To be able to vary the course and move in closer for a better look at something,then put it back on course. I'd love it. I don't know if that level of technology is available or affordable,but as soon as it is,I'll be all over it.
Fun and can be useful, but you know people can't abide by rules, or "police" themselves. My friend brought one over and it was hard to fly, but we did start to learn the hang of it, and took some footage, problem is when it got close to the old hedge row and you can start to see into the neighbors back yard. And as amusing as it may be, that persons privacy could easily be invaded. As I watch the video we took, its actually well within the property line, but it does give you another perspective, you can see the neighbors house from afar, but once you get close to the line, all that changes. Sooner or later someone will cross the line, tick someone off and before you know it these things will be getting shot down, or there will be confrontation.
If you have plenty of room and like it as recreation, like they do with small airplanes, near an old farm not far from me, makes for a lot of fun on a Saturday morning.
I can think of a lot of utilitarian uses for one using the camera for observation, inspecting things. Movie and Television producers probably love these things because of the low cost vs a helicopter to get some scenes or shots.
I think they are pretty cool, but you know there could be serious problems if people don't respect their neighbors when it comes to the use of one.
If you have plenty of room and like it as recreation, like they do with small airplanes, near an old farm not far from me, makes for a lot of fun on a Saturday morning.
I can think of a lot of utilitarian uses for one using the camera for observation, inspecting things. Movie and Television producers probably love these things because of the low cost vs a helicopter to get some scenes or shots.
I think they are pretty cool, but you know there could be serious problems if people don't respect their neighbors when it comes to the use of one.
I have no experience with them. A guy at our last Tactor pull filmed the hole event from one in the air it kind of looked like some of the over view you see from an NFL football game on TV. Very good quality picture. I no there is a lot of down side to them spying and in the wrong place's. oldiron29
Ultradog MN
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I don't have feelings one way or another.
If you ask what I Think about them I'll tell you.
If you ask what I Think about them I'll tell you.
I'll just show you a few pictures that my son in law took this past Easter flying over my place. The "fisheye" was a real problem as far as quality.
If anybody thinks the government doesn't have a lot better pictures than that,updated fairly often,you're fooling yourself.
When I had December Board of Review,I told the assessor that I had torn a barn down and replaced it and was describing what I took down and what I put back up,she told me never mind,she'd get it off the satellite photo. There was another new building in the neighborhood that I knew of and asked her if that one had been assessed. She showed me the site she uses. She had to use her password,so not just Google Earth. She zoomed right down on the building in question,angled it down so we could see the front,the whole works. Apparently she can even get dimensions off it.
So if it's government use that anybody's afraid of,forget it. They don't have to bother.
If anybody thinks the government doesn't have a lot better pictures than that,updated fairly often,you're fooling yourself.
When I had December Board of Review,I told the assessor that I had torn a barn down and replaced it and was describing what I took down and what I put back up,she told me never mind,she'd get it off the satellite photo. There was another new building in the neighborhood that I knew of and asked her if that one had been assessed. She showed me the site she uses. She had to use her password,so not just Google Earth. She zoomed right down on the building in question,angled it down so we could see the front,the whole works. Apparently she can even get dimensions off it.
So if it's government use that anybody's afraid of,forget it. They don't have to bother.
"aint that the truth", fill in a wetland, see how long it takes for someone to find that. Long gone are the days of real privacy, that is for sure.
I used google to check out a building I was involved in constructing in NYC years ago, and the funniest thing I saw was someone I knew, on the sidewalk with his facial area distorted. I knew it was him, the building superintendent, white shirt on, having a smoke outside. Never thought I'd see someone I know, let alone in a huge city with millions of people.
I used google to check out a building I was involved in constructing in NYC years ago, and the funniest thing I saw was someone I knew, on the sidewalk with his facial area distorted. I knew it was him, the building superintendent, white shirt on, having a smoke outside. Never thought I'd see someone I know, let alone in a huge city with millions of people.
I can top that. On Google Earth street view,there's a picture of my daughter and son in law standing in front of their house taking pictures of the Google car taking pictures of them. She saw it go past their house up a dead end street. He grabbed the camera and she had her phone. They waited for it to come back and took pictures of it. He showed us the pictures on Google Earth on Thanksgiving.
Guys, My Realtor has has one and used it to take video of my place for prospective Buyers. The views at 100 to 200 ft will really show of a place! Really Inpressive!
Quite the "toy" or Tool His cost in excess o $3000. They have the potential to be very useful tools when used properly.
And Very destructive, invasive, if used wrong. Most all things if used wrong will be harmful to others. I can see opportunities of misuse all over.
If the Future rules are well thought out, they will be a real Tool in many fields of endeavor! most especially the Ag and Real Estate!
My thoughts!
Later,
John A.
Quite the "toy" or Tool His cost in excess o $3000. They have the potential to be very useful tools when used properly.
And Very destructive, invasive, if used wrong. Most all things if used wrong will be harmful to others. I can see opportunities of misuse all over.
If the Future rules are well thought out, they will be a real Tool in many fields of endeavor! most especially the Ag and Real Estate!
My thoughts!
Later,
John A.
I can understand good uses for them, but I believe there should be strict restrictions for their use. Drone users should be required to obtain permission from property owners before flying over. I don't believe that law enforcement or government should be allowed to take or use pictures or information obtained by drones, aircraft or satellite in court without obtaining a search warrant. Also believe drone operators should be licensed and carry liability insurance.
Billy J Shafer
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Well since my stroke. My eyesite is not so good and the trigger on my shotgun. Is real touchy.
I read in Farm Journal's September issue about them. The FAA says that using one even on your own farm is not authorized. It also says a few have been fined $10,000 for "wreck-less flying" and the FAA has been authorized by congress to finalize a plan for "safe integration" of UAVs by Sept. 30, 2015.
It's not exactly at a moments notice. At least not with the company that I'm insured with. They send an inspector about every three years to get new photos. Last visit here they cancelled one barn. I tore it down a few months ago and replaced it. It would be pretty handy if they would use satellite photos to look at the new one. It would save some leg work.
Don't think I'd be too happy about one buzzing around especially with a camera. I've got nothing to hide, but what I do on my property is no one else's business. If I had the opportunity to "disable" it, I just might.
My next door neighbor has a guy hunting on his property. The guy has his bait station and stand about 30 ft off the property line. He also has 3 or 4 trail cams about 4 ft off the line pointing into my woods. I suppose its probably legal, but it just irritates me every time I'm back there knowing I'm on candid camera.
I do try to give him plenty to look at with the golf cart, skid steer, dog, etc....and actually haven't seen his truck over here in weeks.
My next door neighbor has a guy hunting on his property. The guy has his bait station and stand about 30 ft off the property line. He also has 3 or 4 trail cams about 4 ft off the line pointing into my woods. I suppose its probably legal, but it just irritates me every time I'm back there knowing I'm on candid camera.
I do try to give him plenty to look at with the golf cart, skid steer, dog, etc....and actually haven't seen his truck over here in weeks.
These drones maybe all right if used for the right purpose but what happens when peverts and burglars start using them to case your home or farm building to see what you have and where stuff is located. Even worse peverts looking through widows watching your wife, daughters, and your children ( a new version of a peep Tom). If I find one that close to house or building its coming down.
Traditional Farmer
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The liability end of them will be the the fly in the ointment I'd imagine, already a couple close calls with airliners.Since my place lines up directly less than 3 miles from the end of a pretty large airport runway I don't imagine there will be many flying around here anyway.But they'd be a great tool for an enterprising thief.
Traditional Farmer
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FAA rules state no aircraft can fly lower than 500ft over your property unless its taking off or landing.How I know this is I filed several complaints with the FAA about hot air balloons
(they're classified as aircraft) because they were scaring the livestock.Got results as none fly over anymore.
(they're classified as aircraft) because they were scaring the livestock.Got results as none fly over anymore.
Kent Petersen
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they will be a good target
Texasmark1
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I already discussed the subject with the local sheriff. He too said he didn't want them around his house.
I told him that if I had one eyeballing me it'll get a dose of 00 and dare the owner to come after it.
Nice to know that their current range is about 3500' radius, calm wind. That means that the snooper, if that's the reason, will be close enough to catch since there are only 2 ways in and out. For kids playing, no kids around here and plenty of parks and all in town for that. For the tree huggers and bird watchers, better places to look and besides, one would think that the noise of the thing would scare off what they were looking for.
He said that if someone called he'd send out someone to see just what they are after.
So from here, they had better keep their distance.
Mark
I told him that if I had one eyeballing me it'll get a dose of 00 and dare the owner to come after it.
Nice to know that their current range is about 3500' radius, calm wind. That means that the snooper, if that's the reason, will be close enough to catch since there are only 2 ways in and out. For kids playing, no kids around here and plenty of parks and all in town for that. For the tree huggers and bird watchers, better places to look and besides, one would think that the noise of the thing would scare off what they were looking for.
He said that if someone called he'd send out someone to see just what they are after.
So from here, they had better keep their distance.
Mark
Lou from Wi.
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spudm
They're good instruments to improve your aim pattern.lol. I used a remote control airplane to improve my aiming pattern with a 22 mag bolt action once.It never returned. I only used one shot to make the plane bellyflop in the water. I had a lot of neighbors applauding and cheering when it hit the water.I did my civic duty in controlling noise abatement area. Everyone slept good that night as I was on alert.lol. Been on alert since my early 40-50's and still standing guard,waiting for the next one. Hope its a bigger drone so I can use a bigger caliber. To me they look like a UFO, so I am hoping there will be a reward for proof of downing any of the snoops, criminal activity's, I would consider any of them as criminal activity. For farmers to check crops, animals on their own place I have no problem with the use of them (tractors and foot count of animals), I might even think its permissive to use a 4 wheeler,but if one ever flew around our place, it would only make one pass before it would be useful for recycling.
Now after eye surgery, I'm good to go for another 35 yrs of shooting down drones.
JMO.
LOU
They're good instruments to improve your aim pattern.lol. I used a remote control airplane to improve my aiming pattern with a 22 mag bolt action once.It never returned. I only used one shot to make the plane bellyflop in the water. I had a lot of neighbors applauding and cheering when it hit the water.I did my civic duty in controlling noise abatement area. Everyone slept good that night as I was on alert.lol. Been on alert since my early 40-50's and still standing guard,waiting for the next one. Hope its a bigger drone so I can use a bigger caliber. To me they look like a UFO, so I am hoping there will be a reward for proof of downing any of the snoops, criminal activity's, I would consider any of them as criminal activity. For farmers to check crops, animals on their own place I have no problem with the use of them (tractors and foot count of animals), I might even think its permissive to use a 4 wheeler,but if one ever flew around our place, it would only make one pass before it would be useful for recycling.
Now after eye surgery, I'm good to go for another 35 yrs of shooting down drones.
JMO.
LOU
Eric in IL
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So if their range is 3500 feet and IF (big if) I figured correctly, a drone could cover 883 acres.
Phil in Pa
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In other words, a tax on them.
tractorguy2
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Drones don't worry me right now. You don't own the air space above your property. I doubt there is much you can do if one flies over your house. If you shoot one down I bet you will be in big trouble.
If I found one in my buildings. I would shut the door and leave it in there till someone came and claimed it.
Drones should be required to have the owners name,address and phone on it.
If I found one in my buildings. I would shut the door and leave it in there till someone came and claimed it.
Drones should be required to have the owners name,address and phone on it.
Texasmark1
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I guess so. Just curious. What's your line of thought?
Texasmark1
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Well that's my reasoning in asking the sheriff, to get his take on it.
Nobody has any business snooping around my place unless they are the cops or a thief. Not worried about the cops. The thief yes! Will proceed accordingly.
Mark
Nobody has any business snooping around my place unless they are the cops or a thief. Not worried about the cops. The thief yes! Will proceed accordingly.
Mark
Anyone who has an AMA license is not allowed to fly a drone by video feed unless a buddy box is used and the model is within site flying distance at all times.
I'd imagine that AMA licenses will get a lot more expensive in the coming years.
I have been flying r/c airplanes for probably 30 years now. Never in my life did I imagine the hobby would take this turn. I don't know where some get their info, but I have seen FPV flights in excess of 15 miles, with hobby grade equipment.
It is nothing different than if a person flies over your house in an ultralight or small airplane. What is creepy, is the thought that they won't just fly over, but hover and stare. If I flew over your farm in an ultralight, most people will look up and a few even wave. If I then flew tight circles over your farm, staring, taking pictures, video, etc. you would be upset. It's bad form. It's something that pilots don't do. Helicopter pilots are allowed 50 feet agl, and fixed wing pilots 500 agl. 50 feet agl is ridiculously low. I've had them do that here where I am looking down on the helicopter, being on a higher hill. I don't mind too much. If a drone flew over on it's way to some other place, I wouldn't mind. Same as anyone in an airplane or helicopter. News choppers have been backyard snooping for years. that is how they get the video when it can't be gotten any other way.
I'd imagine that AMA licenses will get a lot more expensive in the coming years.
I have been flying r/c airplanes for probably 30 years now. Never in my life did I imagine the hobby would take this turn. I don't know where some get their info, but I have seen FPV flights in excess of 15 miles, with hobby grade equipment.
It is nothing different than if a person flies over your house in an ultralight or small airplane. What is creepy, is the thought that they won't just fly over, but hover and stare. If I flew over your farm in an ultralight, most people will look up and a few even wave. If I then flew tight circles over your farm, staring, taking pictures, video, etc. you would be upset. It's bad form. It's something that pilots don't do. Helicopter pilots are allowed 50 feet agl, and fixed wing pilots 500 agl. 50 feet agl is ridiculously low. I've had them do that here where I am looking down on the helicopter, being on a higher hill. I don't mind too much. If a drone flew over on it's way to some other place, I wouldn't mind. Same as anyone in an airplane or helicopter. News choppers have been backyard snooping for years. that is how they get the video when it can't be gotten any other way.
T in NE
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Should be treated the same as walking in on your property if it's flown over without permission.
Eric in IL
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I was trying to get a mental image of just how far 3500 feet was. Converting it to acres helped a little. Probably should of kept the reply to myself.
Even if it was a small drone that had a 3500 foot range, you have to figure that the range would be a circle 3500 feet from center, so the diameter of the circle would be 7000 feet, with an area of 3533 acres. Your math was good. I was bored and reverse engineered your calculation - pie are squared. LOL That's how I figured the area.
It's scary to think a "toy" can cover 3500 acres! Imagine a full hobby grade FPV system with miles of range and long life batteries.
Only the burgelers will need them for servelance of property they want to steel from and have one of the theives operating it to watch for owner or police to be able to let the one doing the theiving know so that they can slip away unfound. They should be completely baned except for law enforcement looking for something or someone specific. Like a missing person or prison excapie.
Texasmark1
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I was thinking more about a crook sitting on the side of the road running his drone over your place to scope it out for what's there and/or are you home.
Where I live it's one road going by the place and the nearest junction is 3/4 mile which puts it just over the max range. Course the max range is the advertised distance. Actuals could depend on a lot of things and probably a lot lower. So If I find one I don't have far to send the sheriff to see just who and why it's there.
Course if it's in my face I just might put my 12ga in it's face and let the situation proceed from there. If it packs it's .....and gets then it's the sheriff. If it wants to haggle, then it's the 00 then the sheriff.
Mark
Where I live it's one road going by the place and the nearest junction is 3/4 mile which puts it just over the max range. Course the max range is the advertised distance. Actuals could depend on a lot of things and probably a lot lower. So If I find one I don't have far to send the sheriff to see just who and why it's there.
Course if it's in my face I just might put my 12ga in it's face and let the situation proceed from there. If it packs it's .....and gets then it's the sheriff. If it wants to haggle, then it's the 00 then the sheriff.
Mark
Texasmark1
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I based my numbers on an advertised unit, on www. intellicast of all
places that was selling for $750. Figured that's about all a 2 bit
crook could muster up. Surely the units selling for the thousands
have greater range but that's all the more reason why I doubt it
would stick around for the haggling part. Grin.
Mark
places that was selling for $750. Figured that's about all a 2 bit
crook could muster up. Surely the units selling for the thousands
have greater range but that's all the more reason why I doubt it
would stick around for the haggling part. Grin.
Mark
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