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OT Ford flathead V8 60

FLOLDFORD

FLOLDFORD

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I have been looking for a one of the little V8 60 flatheads for quite awhile and was able to buy one off of a friend of mine recently. The engine was in a wooden boat when he found it a few years back and I was wondering if any of you had ever heard of the company that made the manifolds. I did a quick internet search but didn't turn up anything. I have seen Garwood manifolds on some of the bigger flathead marine engines but never any by this manufacture. The engine was probably built in 39 or 40 but I'm not sure that it was always in a boat could have been converted years later. Motor is not stuck so hopefully it is rebuildable. Got to pull the pan and see what it looks like inside. Parts are out there but there not cheap!
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Neat lookin lil Ford. I owned the 60 and 85 (if I recall correct) in my day, the 60 wouldn't hardly pull a rubber chicken out of the coop lol

Will you be at the January Flywheelers????

Ol John T
 
Neat little engines. Another application that used the Ford 60 V8 was French car co Simca.
They used the Ford 60 until the late 50,s / early 60's.
Listen to this you tube video, unmistakable flathead Ford starter sound and V8 rumble :)
Ford V8 60 in a Simca.
 
I had a 1939 Ford flathead. I love the way they sound and run. I still have a brand new Melling oil pump for one. And I have a couple of Stromburg 97's.
 
Not as well as we had hoped Larry. Still on the ventilator and now running a fever from an infection in his leg. We hope he makes a turn for the better tomorrow. They wouldn't let me in to see him today only one allowed in is his wife Thanks for asking
 
(quoted from post at 15:41:18 12/22/14) Is it the cast or tin side, and does it run backwards like other marine engines?
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on't know about this one but I have had several other brands and they turned the same as automotive engines. As I understand it in some cases of twin engine, twin drive boats one engine runs counter to the other to make it easier to control the boat, this would equalize the torqe. I believe they also run twin counter rotating props in some cases for the same reason.
Angle Iron
 

In'58 or'59 I saw a V8 60 powered hydroplane.This little scooter would run 83 MPH and sounded great doing it!In talking to the owner he said all that had been done to it for added performance was the heads were milled more on the outboard side(side opposite the valves)than the inbd. side,headers and carburation.Thing was only about 14 ft. long.
 
My uncle wrecked a 47 ford f 600 truck and my Dad pulled the motor. been a barn ever since 1951. Would just be a core engine if anyone needs it can have it for what ever it is worth . Have no idea. I also have a pair of heads that are supposed to be hot rod heads $ 50.00 for the pair.
 
That green and yellow golf cart machine don't count as an exhibit.:)
Lookin forward to visiting with you.
 
Neat little motor. I have had several old dirt track midget race cars from the 1940's and they used the little V8/60's a lot.
There are also several guys out there who have installed them in Harley motorcycle frames also.
There is some pretty neat speed equipment for them also. They are nice installation in a little tractor, but really don't have much power.
 
Michigan Marine Motor Company built boat motors at least from the 20s thru the 50s. I believe they were most all converted industrial or truck engines, kind of like the way Crusader Marine makes marine versions of GM car and truck engines today. They take the long block, add a watercooled heat exchanger, watercooled exhaust, probably raw-water pumps to circulate seawater thru the heat exchanger and a watercooled transmission cooler, along with marine carburetors or fuel injection, low profile oil sump, etc.
 

Nice engine: There is a flathead museum in Auburn Indiana on the west side of I-69. Very informative place - a must see for anyone into flatheads. They have a research library which may have some information. I don't remember if they had a marine engine on display but they had a good selection of the tin side models. See below:

www.fordv8foundation.org
 
There was a guy in my outfit in the army in 1957 that put a 60 hp flat head in a T series MG. Made a neat little car with a fine weight to hp ratio. He used it mostly for cruising around the post.
 
Michigan Marine and Stokes Marine are the same company. Look up Stokes Marine for more info.
Stokes manufactured conversion kits for many different auto engines. We purchased a marine conversion kit for a willy's jeep engine from them in 1952 or 53. Cross your fingers that the engine was only used in fresh water as salt water will have caused damage to both the engine and manifold.
 
V8 60 came after the V8 85, was greatly reduced bore, small pistons. lighter pistons meant a bit easier to balance, reduced bore of cylinders but still about same sized intake and exhaust valveing, porting meant proportional greater 'breathing' capabilities, another 1000 rpm before intake 'bends' of airflow path restricted fuel/airflow. The performance for size was advantage in some engine size class racing- competitors about 140 inch were the 4 cylinder T and Chevy engine conversions, Willys. Main market ADVANTAGE was the resulting taxable HP in SAE and English tax law- figured as bore diameter times number of pistons by a hp factor- resulting figure got road taxed and English had a 20 hp break that had a big jump. US SAE rating meant tax variation by state- Illinois had 15,30, 50(?) hp tax class and Chicago when I lived there still had city stickers with different rates for hp. Dodge 6 cylinder slant 6 was under the 30 hp class, Chevy 6 was over and that meant about $50.00 difference in license, tag costs. V8 60 was about 18 to 20hp taxable(?), V8 85 was 24(?), model A was 18(?) taxable so a V8 60 in some places was taxed and license fees same as model A while a V8 85 had a big class break jump that meant about same license fees, etc as a fancy car for the rich folks that wanted something to show off. France had a 'fiscal' rating for engine- same tax horsepower situation- and bore size was a bigger factor than total engine size although not quite as bad as English, US SAE rating system that didn't consider stroke at all. Simple minor design change to engine for economic advantage in some markets/tax dodge and a side effect of performance gain for engine size. RN
 
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