Diesel prices ????

JDemaris · Nov 10, 2014

What the heck is going on with diesel prices. News says we have an oil-glut and fuel prices are dipping. Well yeah - a bit - for gasoline. Why not diesel? When the Federal government changed over to low sulfur diesel -the claim was that it would only add, at most, 5 cents a gallon to the price. Hmmm.

I drove 50 miles to the "big city" yesterday. Alpena, Michigan. Diesel was $4.20 where I live near Rogers City. Got to the city and it was $4. Regular gas more then a full dollar cheaper per gallon. Off-road diesel at the pump is $3.49. Home delivery of the same is $3.59 as heating oil or farm fuel.

just another old geezer · Nov 10, 2014

The last excuse that I heard for the high price of diesel was that home heating season was coming on and demand was up because people were pre-ordering not to be caught short if it was another winter like last.

just another old geezer · Nov 10, 2014

Still 1.50 per gallon too high.

David G · Nov 10, 2014

Winter coming, heating oil.

RMinVa · Nov 10, 2014

Been watching post here and NAT and can see folks in the north and central part of the country are paying through the nose for fuel. I just filled up with off road last week in bulk tank for $2.99 and that was Southern States premium fuel.No problem to find gasoline in the $2.60 range and east of me it's as low as $2.45 around Richmond. Just looked at gas buddy for on road diesel. Here's the link.
Diesel fuel/on road

TomA in CA · Nov 10, 2014

Same thing here in CA. Diesel price is not following gas down. I have seen gas for 2.929 but lowest price for road diesel is 3.899. I am waiting for diesel to go under $3 so I can fill the tank on the D8. I just buy road diesel and claim the tax back.

Spook · Nov 10, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:47:44 11/10/14) What the heck is going on with diesel prices. News says we have an oil-glut and fuel prices are dipping. Well yeah - a bit - for gasoline. Why not diesel? When the Federal government changed over to low sulfur diesel -the claim was that it would only add, at most, 5 cents a gallon to the price. Hmmm.

I drove 50 miles to the "big city" yesterday. Alpena, Michigan. Diesel was $4.20 where I live near Rogers City. Got to the city and it was $4. Regular gas more then a full dollar cheaper per gallon. Off-road diesel at the pump is $3.49. Home delivery of the same is $3.59 as heating oil or farm fuel.

As far as I know, there is only one refinery in Michigan, down by Detroit. And all the fuel comes from the south anyway, living on a peninsula will do that to you. Here in Livingston county, one family owns about a third of the gas stations, and supplies most of the rest, so our fuel is regularly .20 or more than Detroit, Flint, or Lansing, where there is more competition.

Eldon (WA) · Nov 10, 2014

(quoted from post at 08:39:43 11/10/14) Same thing here in CA. Diesel price is not following gas down. I have seen gas for 2.929 but lowest price for road diesel is 3.899. I am waiting for diesel to go under $3 so I can fill the tank on the D8. I just buy road diesel and claim the tax back.

I do the same here...slip tank in my truck can serve my equipment or the truck. Road diesel down to $3.44 right now about 40 miles away, and $3.48 14 miles away...thinking about filling up soon. I have three 55 gal barrels on a pallet that I got heating oil in from a customer this summer when they converted, thinking of using them also if prices go low enough.

buickanddeere · Nov 10, 2014

Oil companies can get away with high diesel prices. No sympathy from the General public , environmental groups, EPA etc as diesel is still considered a dirty smoking polluting source of energy.
Would somebody here with a 2007 or later light highway diesel now tell us how much money they are saving vs gasoline ?

rustyfarmall · Nov 10, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:57:09 11/10/14) Still 1.50 per gallon too high.

$1.50 per gallon too high?? When you consider the VOLUME of crude oil being consumed today, gasoline should be no higher than $1.00 per gallon, and diesel slightly less. I know I am probably being over-optimistic, but please give it some thought before you say I am nuts.

Mike (WA) · Nov 10, 2014

Gas 2.89, diesel about $3.40 in western Washington. Diesel has come down more than gas over the past couple of weeks- we had almost a dollar differential for awhile.

Friend of my wife is going to get a bigger pickup, to carry a camper and tow a horse trailer. It won't be used for commuting, so as big a fan as I am of diesel rigs, I advised her to get a V10. Lousy mileage, but probably 8 grand less than comparable diesel. You can buy a lot of gas for 8 grand, even more so now that diesel is always more expensive than gas.

JDemaris · Nov 10, 2014

I will probably not live long enough to have to
buy something 2007 or newer.
So just factoring in price per mile by fuel
cost. Also note I never paid any huge prices to
get a diesel.

My 1995 Ford F150 4WD with a 300 c.i. straight-
six gets 18 MPG on an empty highway trip. 200
miles cost $33.

My 1994 Ford F250 4WD with a 446 cubic inch
turbo-diesel gets 17 MPG on an empty highway
trip. 200 miles costs $47.

My 1992 Dodge W250 4WD with a 360 cubic inch
Cummins turbo intercooled diesel gets 19 MPG on
an empty highway trip. 200 mile trip cost $42.

My wife's 1992 Volkswagen Jetta with a with a
98 cubic inch diesel gets 46 MPG on a long
highway trip. 200 mile trip is $17.40.

Our 1995 4WD Geo Tracker with a 98 cubic inch
gas engine gets 28 MPG on a long highway trip.
200 mile trip costs $21.20.

Our 1995 Subaru Impreza AWD with a 134 cubic
inch gas engine gets 33 MPG on a long highway
trip. 200 miles uses $18 in gas.

buickanddeere · Nov 10, 2014

What would the gasoline version of each of those diesels cost in fuel, service and initial price ?

Dean · Nov 10, 2014

A friend of mine that I attended high school with owns and operates a nearby truck stop.

Last week I stopped in and bought 5 gal of off road and chatted with him a while.

He informed me that diesel will soon jump about .50/gal. He was told that the impending increase is being blamed upon refining capacity in the midwest.

Dean

JDemaris · Nov 10, 2014

I've never bought a vehicle new - ever, and
never will. I bought all my vehicles cheap.
The most I ever paid for a diesel vehicle is my
1994 F250 4WD, extended cab, with goose-neck
hitch. Came from Arizona and has never seen
winter salt. 220,000 miles when I got it.
Looks and rides like new and I paid $3200 for
it. It now has well over 300,000 miles and
still runs like new.

I'll say this though. Back in the 80s to early
90s - the diesel option was somtimes only $2000
extra. Now it can be $20,000 extra.

By the way. I just put new injector nozzles in
my old 6.2 diesel. I paid $4 each for brand new
Bosch nozzles. The originals had 180,000 miles
on them. I call that fairly cheap as far a
maintenance goes. Obviously parts for newer
diesels are out of this world.

junkaholic · Nov 10, 2014

ok. computer dumb. need to talk to JDemaris. I just picked up a 1010 dozer. Gas. Previous owner reported water out the exhaust and parked it 14 years ago. I discovered it has a hd 165 g engine out of a 111 peanut combine. It had the small 115 head on it and I calculate a 10.5 to 1 compression ratio. I got the motor unstuck and have been turning it with the starter. I notice that the oil gallery that feeds the head and thus the rockers pumps very little oil while cranking with the starter while showing 40 psi on the old manual gauge. I have tried wire probes etc trying to clean out the passage. the hole that stops at the sleeve deck does not drain back over night as the main galleries do. Have I got a problem or am I dreaming up one?

Tim in OR · Nov 10, 2014

Around the portland area, the current scam is to push the B-20 bio-diesel for a cheap ($3.59) if thats what you can call it, and the s-5 for up to $3.99. The B-20 if garbage, Power is down, Economy is down. Smoke is up. I wish I could get real diesel like we used too before the do-gooders saved the world.
Tim in OR

01gentdc · Nov 10, 2014

them do gooders you are mentioning done business with their pants down

hrRoss · Nov 11, 2014

1000 gal delivered to farm last week @2.99 ECwis

T in NE · Nov 11, 2014

You're F250 has 444 CI, and your Dodge has 359CI.

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