Sometimes you just gotta say....

Dave H (MI)

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"Hmmmmm...I shoulda caught that!"

Went to pick up the two gravity wagons I scored at the auction yesterday. My overly ambitious hope of squeezing both onto one load was pretty much not going to happen. Then I noticed that the large box with the nice JD gear that I have been slapping myself on the back about getting a steal on was two inches too wide to fit between the fenders of the trailer I brought. No problem, says I! Loaded the smaller, drive it one hour to the farm and drop it off. Leave the trailer there and drive back for the biggun planning to hook onto the bumper hitch and drag her home the back roads. Old fella who sold it to me said it was a great gear. Used it this Spring to haul home is seed. Turned out of his driveway and this thing like to shimmy itself to death. 5 mph was top speed. Narrow road, no where to turn around. Drove it 1/2 mile to the next cross street and did a u-turn. No one coming so I stopped to inspect. The angle iron and bolts that hold the box to the gear are half there, the other half are broken off. Not really a problem except it looks like the right rear wheel bearing is shot. So the gear lurches, the box rocks and bangs and the whole shee-bang is sitting down there at the auction site waiting on me to come down with a different trailer and pick it up. That'll be another half a day shot and it's my own darn fault! Like I said...

"Hmmmmm...I shoulda caught that!"
 
The way I was taught was to not fasten a gravity box to the running gear rigid. The box needs to be able to float.
 
(quoted from post at 17:36:53 10/05/14) The way I was taught was to not fasten a gravity box to the running gear rigid. The box needs to be able to float.

Yes, Bolt the front and chain the back.
 
Yeah, the M&W gears I have are fixed on the back and have some sort of pivot on the front with two control bars. You don't want it rigid unless it will always be on blacktop. Even then I wouldn't. The frame will give and break welds when you pull it out of a field and onto the road.

One old trick on the tricycle front tractors was to let half the air out of one tire. It would want to pull that way and then wouldn't shimmy. I have airplane tires on all of the wagons that are 20 or 25 ply. They don't look flat when there's no load even if there's no air!
 
I was looking at a couple of gravity wagons once at a sale about 50 miles from home. I though about buying one as they went cheap. I decided it was too far away to pull one home. They didn't look very road worthy.
I got home after the sale and was working outside and here goes a guy by my house pulling both of them wagons hooked together. On the plus side, he was going pretty slow.
 
(quoted from post at 17:29:23 10/05/14) "Hmmmmm...I shoulda caught that!"

Went to pick up the two gravity wagons I scored at the auction yesterday. My overly ambitious hope of squeezing both onto one load was pretty much not going to happen. Then I noticed that the large box with the nice JD gear that I have been slapping myself on the back about getting a steal on was two inches too wide to fit between the fenders of the trailer I brought. No problem, says I! Loaded the smaller, drive it one hour to the farm and drop it off. Leave the trailer there and drive back for the biggun planning to hook onto the bumper hitch and drag her home the back roads. Old fella who sold it to me said it was a great gear. Used it this Spring to haul home is seed. Turned out of his driveway and this thing like to shimmy itself to death. 5 mph was top speed. Narrow road, no where to turn around. Drove it 1/2 mile to the next cross street and did a u-turn. No one coming so I stopped to inspect. The angle iron and bolts that hold the box to the gear are half there, the other half are broken off. Not really a problem except it looks like the right rear wheel bearing is shot. So the gear lurches, the box rocks and bangs and the whole shee-bang is sitting down there at the auction site waiting on me to come down with a different trailer and pick it up. That'll be another half a day shot and it's my own darn fault! Like I said...

"Hmmmmm...I shoulda caught that!"

A deck-over trailer would be a good investment.....can't live without mine.
 
We would weld angle iron on, 2 pieces to a corner, all four corners and let it float in the channel.

I know. Not a good description.
 
You guys have me perplexed. I admit I am no expert on the mounting of gravity boxes to gears. I have had two of them sitting around here for several years...pretty nice ones. Don't know that I have ever looked to see how they are mounted to the gear. Guess that will be on the agenda for the morning. This big one on the JD gear appeared to have been rigidly fastened front and back. May explain why it broke. Hopefully one of the ones here is mounted correctly so I can see how to fix this issue. Appreciate the tip!
 
When I widened out my trailer (102 inches) I made the fenders out of quarter inch material. One vertical support between trailer and fender, between the tandem wheels. It"s strong enough to drive tractors over the wheels.
 
Yeah I know...I call that 20/20 hindsight. Bought this trailer new 3 years ago. I had outgrown it within 18 months. Things happen fast around here.
 

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