Ford 1 ton lug question

Chris English · Oct 4, 2014

Not tractor related but I know this is the place for answers. I have a 1996 f 350 dump that I am saving from the rust demons, trying to jazz it up a bit with some chrome wheel covers. The lugs that are currently on it wont let the covers lay flat on the wheel because they have washer like things built into them Can I just put regular lug nuts on it ??

Sprint 6 · Oct 4, 2014

No, those lugs are specific to the wheel system. There are simulators that will fit those wheels. The simulator will go under the nuts and them caps go over them.

todd hamilton · Oct 4, 2014

That's a good looking old truck. I might be inclined to paint the wheels and front bumper black if it was mine.

glennster · Oct 4, 2014

Our super duty wrecker has those style wheels. The simulators we have on the truch screw on to the short threads sticking out past the lug nuts.

bg/mo · Oct 4, 2014

I have a 95 and the simulators I got fit over those , might have the wrong set?

JD Seller · Oct 4, 2014

Well you can remove the washer type nuts if you like broken wheels. LOL That style of nut is required to spread the load out on the wheel. A smaller nut will not do that and the wheel could easily break.

They make simulators that will fit those type of wheels. I would bet that you have the ones for a pickup or lighter duty truck.

I would just blast and paint the wheels on that truck.

Jim in Ma. · Oct 4, 2014

Check at an RV shop like Camping World. That's where I a set for my Ford motor home.

T in NE · Oct 4, 2014

You can always swap on the 1-piece lugnuts Dodge used up til 93.... No, wait, I can't do that to you, it takes 350 ft-lb to overcome the friction of the solid nut on the face of the wheel instead of the 140 or 150 yours take.
I'd clean those up and paint them. Think I'd go with grey instead of white.

ASEguy · Oct 5, 2014

No. Regular lugnuts have a taper to lock the wheel. Yours do not.

Chris English · Oct 5, 2014

What keeps everything centeted properly ?

J.Wondergem · Oct 5, 2014

(quoted from post at 08:45:34 10/05/14) What keeps everything centeted properly ?

Looks like the hub center.

T in NE · Oct 5, 2014

Ford and Dodge both used coined wheels that you used 2 tapered lugnuts to center them, then replaced them with the regular ones. Then Ford went to hub-centric (vs lug-centric) wheels and 2-piece lugnuts, and Dodge kept the same set-up.

The old set-up depends on friction between the hub and wheels and lugnuts to hold them centered. Doesn't always work the best.

The one-piece lugnut Dodge used required over 300 lb-ft to overcome the friction between the lugnut and wheel. The Ford lugnut takes about 150. Much better choice, even with the older wheels.

flhr62 · Oct 6, 2014

Another vote for painting them black

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