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How do I add rear hydraulics to my Ford 3000

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Jaspence

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I have a Ford 3000 with a front loader. I would like to add rear hydraulic ports to my tractor to run a log splitter and a dump trailer/wagon. I would like to keep it as cost effective as possible.

Also can I run them off of the current hydraulic set up for the loader?

thanks
 

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Yes you can use the loader hyds by adding another control valve body. You have in input side and an output side so you just add another valve body to the side of the one you already have
 
Just tee off from the two hoses that feed your
loader control valve and from the "T" fittings run
two hoses to the back of your tractor to the
control valve for the splitter. quite simple
actually.
 
Awesome, I kinda hadd something like that in mind, I just wanted to make sure that i could do this with hydraulic system just like you would with anything else, thanks
 
Whoa, not that simple. With simple Tees the oil in this open center system will just freeflow through the loader valve and deliver NO pressure to your splitter valve. You need to install a diverter valve into your supply line to the loader valve, and then Tee back into the return line. and then switch between the two functions as needed. This still doesn't give you a hyd circuit to raise and lower your dump trailer.
Your best bet would be to see if your loader valve has power beyond abilitys. Then attach another valve, hoses and couplings to feed the splitter valve and your dump trailer. If your loader valve doesn't have power beyond capabilities you can supply a secondary valve with the previously mentened diverter valve. Be sure you plumb the new circuit with an unrestricted return line back to sump,so that you don't ruin your pump.
Loren, the Acg.
 
Will I still run into the problem of the oil running through the loader system even if i tee off before the control valve for the loader, and have a separate control valve for the rear port?
 
(quoted from post at 15:25:34 09/22/14) Whoa, not that simple. With simple Tees the oil in this open center system will just freeflow through the loader valve and deliver NO pressure to your splitter valve. You need to install a diverter valve into your supply line to the loader valve, and then Tee back into the return line. and then switch between the two functions as needed. This still doesn't give you a hyd circuit to raise and lower your dump trailer.
Your best bet would be to see if your loader valve has power beyond abilitys. Then attach another valve, hoses and couplings to feed the splitter valve and your dump trailer. If your loader valve doesn't have power beyond capabilities you can supply a secondary valve with the previously mentened diverter valve. Be sure you plumb the new circuit with an unrestricted return line back to sump,so that you don't ruin your pump.
Loren, the Acg.
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Would the diverter valve also be called a Selector Valve?
 
(quoted from post at 11:38:21 09/22/14) Just tee off from the two hoses that feed your
loader control valve and from the "T" fittings run
two hoses to the back of your tractor to the
control valve for the splitter. quite simple
actually.
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You can't just tee into pressure & return lines as oil will take the path of least resistance and some hyd won't operate. Hyd valves have to be attached in series on open center systems.
 
Loren has you pretty well covered but one other thing is how much oil does the cylinder on the trailer hold and does the tractor hydraulic reservoir hold more than that. Is the dump trailer power up and power down or gravity down? DOES IT HAVE ITS OWN CONTROL VALVE?
 
(quoted from post at 17:30:48 09/22/14) Loren has you pretty well covered but one other thing is how much oil does the cylinder on the trailer hold and does the tractor hydraulic reservoir hold more than that. Is the dump trailer power up and power down or gravity down? DOES IT HAVE ITS OWN CONTROL VALVE?
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Good question, my wife just bought the trailer, (because it was a good deal), I dont know anything about the trailer, and this is why im looking into adding a port to the back so i could control it, I will check and that is a great thing to research before i try to use it.
 
There is a6.3 gallon hydraulic system on the tractor, and no there is not a control valve on the trailer, as far as if the trailer is down pressure or just gravity im not sure yet
 
Yes, you need to direct the oil to the secind valve that you install, or it willsimply flow through you loader valve. As I stated before and Old said, you can series in another valve after your loader valve if it has power beyond capabilities.
Loren
 
Yes, you can add valves to the rear. How you add them.... depends on the system you have.
There are a variety of options on that tractor in terms of how you set up rear remotes. First of all... how is the loader presently supplied? Does it have it's own front mounted pump on the engine crank or is it supplier from the tractor's main system pump? If it uses the tractor's main system pump, how is that plumbed? Does the tractor have a remote valve body mounted under the seat right now, or a diverter plate assembly... or just a simple auxillary services control (ASC) valve under the seat?
If it has a separate loader supply pump... does the loader control valve have porting for a power beyond port? You need a power beyond port if you wish to supply a second valve block in series...
With the multitude of options one needs a clear understanding of what exists before we can give you good advice on how to proceed...

Rod
 
(quoted from post at 11:38:21 09/22/14) Just tee off from the two hoses that feed your
loader control valve and from the "T" fittings run
two hoses to the back of your tractor to the
control valve for the splitter. quite simple
actually.
Click to expand...

Explain how that will work on an open centre hydraulic system.
 
(quoted from post at 12:25:34 09/22/14) Whoa, not that simple. With simple Tees the oil in this open center system will just freeflow through the loader valve and deliver NO pressure to your splitter valve. You need to install a diverter valve into your supply line to the loader valve, and then Tee back into the return line. and then switch between the two functions as needed. This still doesn't give you a hyd circuit to raise and lower your dump trailer.
Your best bet would be to see if your loader valve has power beyond abilitys. Then attach another valve, hoses and couplings to feed the splitter valve and your dump trailer. If your loader valve doesn't have power beyond capabilities you can supply a secondary valve with the previously mentened diverter valve. Be sure you plumb the new circuit with an unrestricted return line back to sump,so that you don't ruin your pump.
Loren, the Acg.
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No need for a divert valve. Just put a new SCV in line, inline into the supply line of the current loaded control valves.
 
(quoted from post at 19:21:06 09/22/14) Yes, you need to direct the oil to the secind valve that you install, or it willsimply flow through you loader valve. As I stated before and Old said, you can series in another valve after your loader valve if it has power beyond capabilities.
Loren
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Everything everyone as said has been great. And as you can figure out I dont have hardly any experience in hydraulics, just curious, could I put a shut off valve just after either side of a standard T, to shut off that circuit, just curious?
 
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