Fruit seed question for the brain trust

I grew up in western central Kansas. The sand hill plumb bushes were thick. The best plumbs were the size of bing cherries and made excellent jam. They were also good in moos - a kind of cold German fruit soup. Today mom brought me a five gallon bucket of plumbs.

My farm is in NE Kansas and the bushes don't exist here except on a very small scale. Due to family battles, I don't have access to the bushes to dig some runners. I am bound and determined to get bushes going from this seed and have some thickets in the pasture.

How would I go about getting them to germinate? I've been keeping every seed from the ones I have eaten and am keeping track of the largest plumbs and will double my efforts to get those grow. Should I freeze them (like going through a winter)? Some seeds need to ride around in an animals gut and be deposited (I'm not volunteering for that). Think bing cherries - what would you do to get those to germinate? Since these are wild I know the resulting plant won't be barren as sometimes happens with hybrids. We have a three season porch on the south side of the house that will be perfect for getting bushes ready to transplant next spring.

It's funny - they were a nuisance back then and I am going out of my way to start some.

Now I'm curious. I would like to see a picture of them just to see what they are like.The reason being, there are many berries and fruits that are called by different names in different localities.
That being said, here is my thinking. If you have several seeds, I would go ahead and plant two or three in small pots now. If they sprout, they will not likely grow to a very large size before spring, and they could be kept in the house like other house plants. If they grow, you will have a head start on next year. And, may mother nature smile upon your efforts.

Mot sure how to start them from seed, but if you want some, come get all you want, along with a bunch of grapes. We got a late freeze, so the plums will be sorta limited this year. Oh, you have to take a bunch og Choke Cherries too.

I would find some neighbor who had plumb trees. It is my understanding that you may have to have at least two plumb trees, a boy tree and a girl tree in order to get fruit. Check with local extension agent.

I second Shadetree. Got an ols sheep tank or something similar laying around? Sounds like you have plenty of seeds, so I would mix up some nice fertile soil and plant them. keep them watered and maybe move them into the barn over winter.

Not an expert, but I think those seeds need to freeze. The freezing will crack open the shell, exposing the seed that is inside. If you can find a place to bury those seeds right now, where the wild critters will not dig them up, they should freeze this winter, and begin growing next spring.

For all practical purposes fruit trees can NOT be grow from seed.
You grow the rootstock from seed and then graft or bud the fruit you want onto it.
Once you have the desired tree you want planting a cross pollinator is sometimes required.

Take the Bing cherry.
It is originally a cross pollination of Black nnalert (mother) and Napoleon Bigarreau (father) cherry.
Today the Bing is the mother and it is crossed with Stella and Rainier cherries.
Bing cherries are usually grow on a Mazzard or Mahaleb cherry rootstock.

Thanks to my wife for the help with those names. She has the green thumb around here.

But if you want to experiment around and grow some trees from seeds you need to chill them first. A refrigerator works well for this.

Follow the link for more advise.
Growing New Fruit Tree Plants from Seed

Here's the plant. Excellent jam.
Sand hill plumbs

Notjustair has the answer.

Contact your ag agent or K-State ag dept or Kansas forestry dept.

seems like most of your questions are answered in that article.

Sand hill plumbs are not hybrids but native plants and can be grown from seeds. However the roots/runners are the best method of propagation.

Interesting. We have "wild plums" around here. Never heard them called sand hill plums. No sand here - heavy clay. (though there is sandy ground 5-6 miles to the west) Not 100% sure they're the same thing - the fruit on ours is a little bigger than what the article talks about, and being in n/w WI, we're out of the range mentioned, too.
Grandma made jelly with them. I usually eat a few...the skins are very sour, but the fruit inside is sweet.

Thanks
I thought he was talking hybrid fruit.

I see he answered his questions himself with the PDF he linked to.

We grewan apple tree from seed had to put them in cotton and fridge for 6 months then started it in doors until was a foot or so tall and transplanted it. Its a bout 30 feet tall now produces every year. these were macintosh apples.

Runners will give same genetics you want. Seeds may or may not carry the taste of origional plant. Best to dig on dark night , with trusted friend as lookout. Yes not proper in some ways.

I've got some of these growing in the roadside ditches on my property. Last year there were so many plumbs that we couldn't make enough jam or wine to get rid of them all. This year there is no crop because of a late, hard freeze.

Not sure I can post a link right, but this is in the electronic version of the Wichita paper (the Daily Disappointment) this morning. You might find it interesting.

http://www.kansas.com/2014/07/27/3570829/sandhill-treat-is-plum-full-of.html#storylink=omni_popular