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Like Willy Nelson sang,I'm not cold,I'm not wet and I'm not hungry. Classify these as good times.
Good times
Good times
Cool, I got all that stuff and am debt free with cash in the bank/investments, HOWEVER I worked like 40 years n farmed n ran a business n paid taxes and mortgages and bills and raised a family BEFORE I arrived where I'm at today lol
Seems that other then having money in the bank, a lot of people can get all that stuff today (from the Government, i.e. the working peoples tax dollars) and never have to work a lick ???
Oh well, I have no regrets for being able to have worked, paid taxes and saved and am glad to help those less fortunate, but I am not so happy for big brother government FORCING ME AND CHOOSING who I help, even if it goes against my religious values and beliefs grrrrrrrrrrrrr......
Oh well, God Bless all
John T
Seems that other then having money in the bank, a lot of people can get all that stuff today (from the Government, i.e. the working peoples tax dollars) and never have to work a lick ???
Oh well, I have no regrets for being able to have worked, paid taxes and saved and am glad to help those less fortunate, but I am not so happy for big brother government FORCING ME AND CHOOSING who I help, even if it goes against my religious values and beliefs grrrrrrrrrrrrr......
Oh well, God Bless all
John T
My dad always said, "You can live on the dole, but it ain't much of a living." Probably not as true today, because of many more ways to game the system.
I'm with you, John, and don't resent having had to work to get what I have. And I look at some of the sorry specimens of folks who are on the dole, and have to admit, there's no way they could compete for scarce jobs in todays economy, so what are you going to do, just let them starve? Or have them take up arms and take ours from us by force? Not every problem has a solution.
I'm with you, John, and don't resent having had to work to get what I have. And I look at some of the sorry specimens of folks who are on the dole, and have to admit, there's no way they could compete for scarce jobs in todays economy, so what are you going to do, just let them starve? Or have them take up arms and take ours from us by force? Not every problem has a solution.
I agree with those speaking of working and getting to where you are today. But someone brought up the word "resent" in relation to this. What I resent, a lot, are the people who say I was "lucky" for doing what I did. The more I think about it, the more clear it is that "luck" was a tiny part of what got me where I am and the rest was work, sacrifice, sticking to the job when it really truly sucked and being willing to obey the rules.
I realize this doesn't apply to the world stage where the US is #1 in about every category. But since the rest of the world resents us and everything we stand for, while wanting everything we have, it just seemed appropriate to mention my own little beef with the world.
I realize this doesn't apply to the world stage where the US is #1 in about every category. But since the rest of the world resents us and everything we stand for, while wanting everything we have, it just seemed appropriate to mention my own little beef with the world.
Mike anytime you subsidize something you get more of it.
Many of those sorry specimens worked in the generations in the past. The "dole" has gotten to be a stopping point for to many people today. They "settle" never trying to better themselves.
The dole is pretty good these days if you know how to game the system. Most of those on it know all too well how to maximize what they draw.
About your last comment: IF they are truly poor how do they have arms to take up against us??? Also do you not have the means to protect yourself???
I will never be a sheep that allows anyone or anything to "take" what I earned without a fight.
Many of those sorry specimens worked in the generations in the past. The "dole" has gotten to be a stopping point for to many people today. They "settle" never trying to better themselves.
The dole is pretty good these days if you know how to game the system. Most of those on it know all too well how to maximize what they draw.
About your last comment: IF they are truly poor how do they have arms to take up against us??? Also do you not have the means to protect yourself???
I will never be a sheep that allows anyone or anything to "take" what I earned without a fight.
MarkB_MI
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If you haven't lived in a third world country, you probably don't have a clue as to how the majority of the people in this world live. Many don't have a roof over their heads. Most die young from disease and starvation. The poorest family in West Virginia would be considered wealthy in Bangladesh.
This ties in with my earlier post. There is real poverty in this world and it is not in the US. Our "poor" have a standard of living that is better than 2/3s of the people in this world.
Many families in third world countries have annual house hold incomes that are well under a thousand dollars.
The key is to help people to work themselves out of poverty. You can never "give" anyone enough to raise them out of poverty permanently.
Much of the "help" we send overseas is just lining the pockets of the local warlord/politician. It does very little for those in poverty. The worse place is Africa in this regard.
We are a giving nation. The trouble is you can not "buy/give" prosperity to people. They have to earn it.
So we need to create opportunities not create hand outs. The current fade is to just give hand outs forever.
Many families in third world countries have annual house hold incomes that are well under a thousand dollars.
The key is to help people to work themselves out of poverty. You can never "give" anyone enough to raise them out of poverty permanently.
Much of the "help" we send overseas is just lining the pockets of the local warlord/politician. It does very little for those in poverty. The worse place is Africa in this regard.
We are a giving nation. The trouble is you can not "buy/give" prosperity to people. They have to earn it.
So we need to create opportunities not create hand outs. The current fade is to just give hand outs forever.
john in la
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What we in America describe as poor is not a eye drop of water from one of the great lakes.
When you consider poor as not having a cell phone; 2 cars; 1st rate health care; and central heat and air you have no idea how most people in this world live.
When you consider poor as not having a cell phone; 2 cars; 1st rate health care; and central heat and air you have no idea how most people in this world live.
Something like 7+ billion people in the world. Due to a new invention clean water can be made for a few pennies per gallon now due to low cost filtration systems. So, Kids in nations like Indonesia and the countries of Africa do not die of water borne diseases.
I watched a Utube video of how you can make a water filtration system for under $50 out of stuff you can buy from a hardware store.
I question the 10% comment, what about all the people in Europe. Most western democracies should or do have the 3 items mentioned, House, clothes, food. Europe, the USA and Canada make up over 15% of the world population.
We are very fortunate to have all the great things in the USA and what the free market has brought. 100 years ago the USA was a very different place. Now electricity is everywhere, in 1914 it was only in the cities.
I watched a Utube video of how you can make a water filtration system for under $50 out of stuff you can buy from a hardware store.
I question the 10% comment, what about all the people in Europe. Most western democracies should or do have the 3 items mentioned, House, clothes, food. Europe, the USA and Canada make up over 15% of the world population.
We are very fortunate to have all the great things in the USA and what the free market has brought. 100 years ago the USA was a very different place. Now electricity is everywhere, in 1914 it was only in the cities.
Traditional Farmer
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Yea but they can't buy a house in Bangladesh for
$10 like you fellows can in Detroit(LOL)
$10 like you fellows can in Detroit(LOL)
The problem there is there are a lot of people in the world who don't have a local hardware store nor the money to spend filtering water.
Europe includes
Albania
Andorra
Armenia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Belgium
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Bulgaria
Croatia
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Kosovo
Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Macedonia
Malta
Moldova
Monaco
Montenegro
The Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Russia
San Marino
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Ukraine
United Kingdom
A lot of those countries live in abject poverty. This entire list makes up that 15%.
Rick
If all welfare was cut tomorrow about 50% would realize the free ride is over and go get some kind of job. I would be glad to let the rest starve and doubly glad to shoot any that tried to take what I have by force, though most would be way too lazy to travel out in the country and try that, then again, zero would probably send a bus to carry them out looting.
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