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So I've been wanting another tractor... Shocker I know. I saw a Ford Hundred series with a backhoe and loader in my price range and not to far away. We need a backhoe for a couple projects coming up. This has a fully hydraulic loader vs my trip bucket on my Farmall H. I know I can't expect to dig like a fool with it but it's better then a shovel and pick. I SHOULD be saving for a new truck and engagement ring but the tractor would be nice to add. Plus its simple to work on vs some of the newer machinery and only 2k. I'm a young guy who takes care of equipment so it could get this one to last a long time. Thoughts? I really have a feeling i'll catch hell If I buy it, but I could use the backhoe....
 
Might as well buy it before the ring, you don't stand a chance after....

Easy for me to say at long distance. ;)

Paul
 
The saying is : For each implement you have sitting around , there should be a tractor connected to it . I think that Hundred series with a back hoe & loader should already be in your shed . Just tell your wife that you had been stopping to look it over several timrs & the dealer needed it moved , so he gave it to you . Another method of convincing her is to let her disconnect the present implement & then connect a different one by herself . Maybe after doing it by herself for a while , she will understand why you absolutely need that 2nd tractor . A safety tip : be sure to have a hard hat close by . HTH ! God bless, Ken
 
Fullers Farmall,

We often joke about inter-personal relationships between our wives/girlfriends and us. We joke about wars between us and getting "skilleted" for doing stuff that our girlfriends/spouses don't agree with. So I realize that you might be speaking facetiously when you say that you will "catch hell" if you buy the tractor.

So please forgive me if I have taken literally something that you mean facetiously. As a nearly 70 year old man who has been married for nearly 52 years, I would strongly urge you to RUN as fast as you can away from any woman who would give you "hell" for doing anything. You are setting yourself up for a lifetime of conflict if you have that kind of relationship.

Honestly, there is no reason or excuse for a man and his wife ever to have strife. You may or may not be a Christian man, but you would be well served either way to read your Bible in Ephesians chapter 5, and take it to heart literally.

May the Lord guide you step by step as you enter into a lifetime relationship with your friend.

Tom in TN
 
Tom I appreciate that comment. I probably could've worded that a little better. It wouldn't be that bad. She knows I love tractors and she does support that. But we just moved in together and I believe she would use the logic of we could be saving that for our future, however tractors are an investment right????? hahaha. I have found my life long friend and she is a good woman who has helped me through a lot. Wouldn't think of spending my life with anyone else. I do appreciate your comment though.
 
I like that idea!!!!!!!!! I think she would got for it! Shes a sweetheart, and I am one lucky guy to have found her. And lets face it shes a lucky gal to land a guy like me... or something like that
 
In the last few years I've bought and sold a few tractors - always thinking that "this one" would be just right for my purposes.
Of course it wasn't, so I'd sell it and make a little money to put toward the next one and slowly improved what I was driving.
Just about a year ago I sold my best tractor - actually two tractors, plus took some money out of savings - to buy an engagement ring.
The satisfaction, happiness, joy, usefulness - whatever you want to call it - that [u:654c4848f0]I've[/u:654c4848f0] gotten from getting [u:654c4848f0]Her[/u:654c4848f0] that ring is far greater than I ever got from any tractor.
It's been fun to surreptitiously watch her flash that thing around. Like it gives her some kind of privilege, even though she swears she doesn't 'use it' that way. Ha ha.
(Women are funny about that kind of stuff. Very sly.)
But you can tell she's proud to wear it. Day in and day out it gives her joy.
I don't need her permission to do anything. Especially not for something as mundane as buying a tractor.
I say another backhoe/tractor will come along soon enough so you should look after the bird in hand and not the two in the bush.
The right woman doesn't just come along every day you know.
Buy her the ring now and get the tractor later.
 
I'm with UD on this one.
If you have already asked her to marry you and she said yes,
get her that engagement ring.....
Even if it comes to the point of selling tractors to get it for her.
She'll protest this...don't listen, get it for her anyway.
(In 50 years, this tractor will be a distant memory, but her remembering you moving heaven and earth to get that ring will still be fresh in her mind)
After she has it...now, on to tractors.
A loader-backhoe IS for your future.
When you and her have your own place, her/your list of jobs and improvements will be endless and it will be always be parked there ready to go.
 
As a kid, my dad had a farmal H with trip bucket.

No power steering, very slow to lift. Couldn't lift very much, no down force on bucket.

The problem with an add on loader and backhoe is the front axle and the top link wasn't designed for the abuse you are going to give it.

When you lift 1000# you are also transfering another 1000# and placing it on the front wheels, so front axle are getting 2000#, front wheels sink in mud and back wheels spin on snow. My neighbor has a large massey and this is what happens when he lifts a bale of hay. I made him a 1100# ballast to keep his rear wheels on the ground.

As for the add on hoe, most I've seen you have to get off the tractor seat, walk around the tractor and climb back on backhoe seat. For me, THAT'S A DEAL BREAKER.

When I was looking for a backhoe, I was asking an old farmer if he had one. He said he had an old ford that would cost a fortune in gas to run it.

When you start putting add-on on a tractor, the hydraulics on the tractor can't handle what it, so you need to put a second pump on tractor and run tractor wide open, creating a big sucking sound in the gas tank.

So, I've seen add-on hoes break the top link, front loaders damage the axles, even split tractor in half. Not sure if you will have any down force on front bucket.

Operate a hoe designed from ground up as a hoe and you will see what I'm talking about.
George
 
When my wife decided it was time for us to get married, we didn't have enough money between us to scrape together the price of the cheapest ring. It didn't seem to make a difference. Years later that rock became important to her. Why? Got me. It's a rock that's near worthless as far as I can see. But it's the one social convention every woman seems to stick with- shiny rocks, the more and bigger the better. Stupid beyond reason to me. Means something to her. She eventually got one that she has since LOST. I know several people who have spent thousands on rings that got lost or stolen. You aren't likely to lose a tractor. I didn't lose my wife.

It's your decision, just some observations made here on my part.
 

The tried and true method to this situation is, after the purchase of another tractor say nothing about it. When it comes up and she asked about it you simply reply "OH Yes, I've had that for years! You never noticed it sitting out there?" She doesn't want to admit to callous indifference to something that means so much to you so she may be suspicious but she will believe you.
 
Right now is the time to find out about her if she
throws a fit after you buy the tractor then enjoy the tractor and cut her loose.Trust me life is too short to put up with someone like that.There are lots of good women out there that would appreciate a good tractor just find one and life will be much more pleasant.As my Grandmother used to say "He's living under petticoat rule" DON'T
be one of them.Just look at all the 'men' that post here that live in fear of their wives.Good Grief!What a miserable way to live.
 
I like tractors equal to or more so than any other person I know. I read about them, buy them, sell a few, use them daily, and stop to look at any I see sitting along the road for sale. That being said, if your little lady is the one you want to be with "until death do us part", buy the ring. You will not regret it, and an even better backhoe will come along when you need it. Also for what it is worth, I have a 3500 Ford that is an industrial tractor/loader/backhoe designed for digging and dirt work. It works good, but is none too large for around the farm projects. I used a 3pt mounted one on a 285 Massey Ferguson one time that I was selling for a neighbor. It was a step above a shovel, yes, but not a very big step. My little industrial Ford TLB made the big Massey and 3pt mounted hoe look silly when in comparison. My advice, get your future bride her ring now, get a better machine in the future.
 
I think asking older guy's for an opinion is showing wisdom. That said, I think you should should buy her a nice ring. Don't go overboard financially, but make her think you overpaid based on your current income. She will always remember that which should make it easier to buy the tractor down the road when the time is right. If you buy the tractor now and get her a measley (in her eyes) ring you will be reminded of that for quite a few years. Women don't forget.
 

I find it hard to hide a tractor but a woman can hide a bunch of rings if you give her the go ahead to buy her own.... I often wondered why my wife let me buy anything I wanted no complaints till she passed...
She had more jewelry tucked away than the law allows... I don't know about other men but I don't have a use for Jewelry....
 
Two opinions:

Me: Buy the backhoe, do your projects plus make some money with it on the side. You can always re-sell it later and have it out of your system.

My wife of 43 years: "If he buys the backhoe he won't need the engagement ring". "Can he rent or hire a backhoe for now?"

Summary: You can see how distorted a woman's reasoning skills can be.
 
Trust me, buy the backhoe, wait on the ring .... If she says, awesome shes a keeper.....make money with the backhoe and get a bigger ring.... if she's mad, you cant afford her anyhow, no matter how much you earn.
 
I'd buy the tractor and a blowup doll. The tractor will probably still be going long after we're dead and gone, and a blowup doll is not only cheaper, but never jumps into arguments at family get togethers, but admitedly starts a few just by being quiet and minding her own business. Although being 2014 and all, could be a matter of "his" own business, just not in my house. Don't be bringing no guy blowup doll to any of my parties. I'm not that open minded.

Mark
 
Maybe you should talk it out with the girl - you may or may not be surprised by her answers. My wife is not a jewelry person, so she would tell me to buy whatever I could use and/or make some money with.

Every female is different; now is the time to find out if you are really compatable when it comes to financial matters - that could save you a lot of grief in the future!
 
sorry... really long

What about discussing it with her?...

Explain your reasoning and ask her opinion if she is OK waiting a little longer to get that ring... or if she is OK with getting a smaller diamond NOW - then upgrading to a larger diamond at a special anniversary like 5 or 10 years.

I do like jewelry... but my diamond is rather small - it's just never been that important to me.

AND going in debt for a large diamond does not add to the quality of your marriage. In fact, payments that are large and long-term on a ring - could be a detriment to your marriage if it makes finances your finances so tight that you can't afford to do anything but stare at that shiny ring (ask my daughter how she knows... I suggested to her that they get married with a smaller ring and upgrade someday when they could afford it - NOPE, they got a big 'un and struggle with those payments and other debt two years later).

My sisters had huge honkin' diamonds, nice cars and fancy homes. At times I'd suggest doing a sisters trip -- OH, GEEZ... they had to beg their husband and see if they could afford it and were always stressed about money (even when grocery shopping). Usually they got the ok to go on a trip, but got ragged-on about the cost -- conversely, I never had to ask permission to go and money was never an issue because we live within reason and so I could afford to go have some fun.

One sis in particular always got tons of expensive jewelry from her husband on every occasion of every year... but SHE had to work one full time job and two part time jobs to help pay for it. And her husband always treated her like crud. (They are divorced now... he bought her beautiful jewelry for years and years... then cheated on her. Nice, huh?)

But then, I'm probably not normal... my husband bought me "rust pieces" for my garden for our 29th anniversary - and I was happy. LOL!
 
Simple, get the backhoe now, that way when you get to the "till death do we part" part of the marriage you can use the backhoe to hide the body :twisted: :twisted: !

Rick
 
Everyone likes to give their opinions based on their own experiences and preconceptions. So here's one more.
Only you two know your relationship. You both have different expectations of what your relationship will yield, what you've told her in private, and that which she's told you. If your a stringer, you know, stringing her along, or if she's the one. Talk, figure out what each of you wants from this partnership and that, and only that, is your compass.
The dance is never easy, but it's worth it. Dance on!

Dave
 
buy the ring and get the Gal 1st ! , That Is /? if she is NOT the modern type of women that aint worth bringing home ??,, if she is the modern selfish type ?/,,By all means, get the tractor and Let Her BLOW her stak ! NOW! ,.. BELIEVE ME ,you will be headaches ahead yrs from now,,.you can find a bad gal and a good tractor most anytime
 
you can rent the ggal too ,,,LOl,,old bachelor saying of 3 Fs,, if you can float it? fly it? or phkit , You are best off to rent it
 
I say buy the tractor.Do the work,make some money...If you need to sell,you can .You sometimes have to jump on an oportuinty,even if the 'timeing' is not right.As sweetfeet says,dont go into debt to buy the big fancy expencive ring(I spent less than $100 on my wife's ring 29 years ago).If she demands that,then cut her loose.She will just get worse....Not the kind of woman you want....especially as a farmer's wife.If she is just happy with the best you can do...marry her.But,whatever you do: talk about it with her,discuss it.Get a dialog going...Pray about it.....
 
"going in debt for a large diamond does not add to the quality of your marriage."
"OK with getting a smaller diamond NOW - then upgrading to a larger diamond at a special anniversary like 5 or 10 years."

If he could substitute "backhoe" for the word "diamond" it would make for such a happy story - I'm starting to shed a tear just thinking about it . . . (BTW, off the record - you're right of course)
 
If $2k is a strain on your wallet, then find a woman who can support you in a life style you could enjoy.

If she doesn't have a good job and health insurance, GUESS WHAT? You will have to buy her health insurance and your premimuns will be determined your combined income. OUCH!!

Old backhoes are high maintaince, but a wife will be even higher. Not to mention if she has kids. Sure you are up to it?
 
You can never have to many tractors.....you can however have to many wives! (and sometimes that number is between 0 and 2). Seriously talk to her about it, if you can't talk about something like this you're not ready to marry her. And don't B.S. her on it, explain why you want/need it, how much it costs and the ramifications of purchasing it now vs other things. As a young couple you will have needs & wants for things you'll have to go into debt or save for, you and her need to figure out how this is going to work in your relationship. I've been married for 25 years this fall, believe me it's important you figure this one out before you tie the knot
 
I did a quick scan, and I didn't see a picture of the girl, but I think I've seen one that you posted some time ago. A picture might have changed some of the replies, ha.

Show her the respect that she deserves, and everything will work out, that is, if she does the same for you. Good luck!!
 
Sweetfeet If you not normal then my wife is not normal. We have talked about our finances and everything else together. We both tried to avoid any debt that could not be paid off that would cause any worries.
She knows she can buy anything she wants for the home. But, she is very consverative and doen't buy much that I would call stupid.
We have been together 40 years this December.
 
One thing you said about rings has had me thinking for years. People spend thousands on a diamond and then have it mounted in a ring that looks like it should have a warning label on it.
The warning should say FOR DISPLAY ONLY. There has to a better way to mount diamonds.
 
Hi
I bet I can figure this out for you. Go to her,say we have this project we need to do. The options are- We buy a backhoe and do it the easy way. or I buy you a big huge engagement ring, and a shiny new pick and shovel, with the change that's left.
I would say if she's a keeper your having a backhoe. Chances are she will be driving it more than you in the end if she's a true country girl.
Regards Robert
 
Tractors, cars, and trucks (with few exceptions) are not investments - they are money pits. Once you buy it the bad surprise repairs necessary to make it a useful and productive machine will start to appear, especially on a $2,000.00 backhoe. Just an example that happened to me, I bought a great looking and running tractor. Just totally gone through 500 hours ago. Well, guess what - cavitation had ruined the block and they "sealed" the liners with stop leak. Picture looking for a new block, internal hydraulic leaks, and the list goes on. It all looks great until you start to "live" with it. All may be well or you may suffer buyers remorse. If you have work for a backhoe, rent one.
 
Just remember about them rings......when the big day arrives, and you slip that ring on her finger......when it's her turn she will hook that that ring through your nose and lead you by it "till death do you part" :shock: .

Rick
 
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