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There is a discussion on the John Deere site about using an Over riding clutch when using a rotary cutter on a tractor without Live PTO.
Some say it isn't necessary, I say that I have seen a lot of good tractors ruined by not using one. And a lot of damaged buildings, and fences.
If there were a survey taken whether to use one or not use one how would the count come out by the people that are in the know?

Do you or do you not think a person should use one?
 
Not sure what an over-riding clutch is.

But I know what that ratcheting mechanism called an "over-running clutch" is, and I think they're a good safety feature...unless you LIKE to watch your mower push your tractor into fences,walls, and other objects. Most tractors come out second-best in a contest with an immovable object.
 
I used a 4-ft rotary cutter a time or two on my Deere M without an ORC. Not fun. Needless to say that after adding one and seeing the benefit I never will go without again.
 
ive operated farm tractors for almost 50 years, any tractor that has a non live pto and will be used to operate a brush hog style mower needs to have one, yes you can run without it but that one time when having it saves you from hitting the duck pond, the ditch, the tree, your wifes brand new car ect, its more than worth the cost plus having it on there can help prevent damage to the pto of the tractor in some cases, its just common sence, use one
 
I don't use one but I am always aware that it takes longer to stop. Have never hit anything important. Probably should get one, just to make it easier.

Larry
 
This is an example of what separates the cheapskates who are penny wise and pound foolish.From those who are not in denial, who value life and property.
 
Not sure if it's the same, but I've got a JD 950 with a clutchpack where you depress the pedal part way to stop forward movement and fully depress to stop the PTO. it is getting close to needing a new clutch and the JD dealer said He couldn't get parts for those any more. Said to maintain it correctly needed to constantly adjust BOTH sets of discs and mots folks just ruined the clutches. I still run a 5' on it, but only mow the pasture and some fencelines....no damage so far.
 
I've got one on my Farmall M. It just stays on the tractor year round. I rarely use a rotary mower but I grind feed with it every couple weeks. It's a heck of a load on that little adapter, but it is nice to be able to push in the clutch and go without waiting for the mill to stop.

Growing up I didn't know things like that existed. It would have made life a lot easier.
 
Only the very inexperienced would not appreciate the benefits of an ORC when operating a rotary cutter with a tractor having transmission driven PTO.

Dean
 
(quoted from post at 22:29:42 06/25/14)

Do you or do you not think a person should use one?
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[b:1cd45501d6]If a neighbor hadn't been too cheap and bullheaded to install one, he might have prevented a child from being turned into hamburger.[/b:1cd45501d6]

It is a memory I will never forget, and I will never forgive the stupidity of the people involved.

Myron
 
Well if one looks at many of the old balers like say a JD-14T they had a built in ORC due to the fact many tractors did not have live PTO make one think some one some place believed it was good. YES and YES an ORC is a good thing so the guys with little to know common sense do not end up like this and yes he had an ORC
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Think of it this way. When you are mowing with a rotary mower without a Over Rideing Clutch and your tractor does not have independent PTO the energy or inertia stored in that spinning mower acts as a large flywheel and transmits that energy back through the power shaft and drives the tractor when you push in the clutch. Until that energy dissipates that thactor is still going to be moving regardless what might be in front of it. Can be a very dangerous thing and there is a very simple fix.
 
Before we had such a device we learned to kik it out of gear either the pto or the tranny no big deal thats just the way we did it.
 
1st bought the tractor 2nd bought the ORC 3rd bought the rotory mower. Main reason ORC was 2nd is talked to a buddy and he showed me where barn door and front of his Jube met. He NOW uses a ORC also.
 
not just for those that don't have live pto...so many that do have live pto use a pto brake and a bat wing sure can spin that pto a while after you shut it off...yes new ones have the over running clutch built in drive line
 

Harvey, Now how are you going to sort between those who are in the know and those who are not in order to have a meaningful survey? Or does the answer determine the knowledge?
 
(quoted from post at 20:52:50 06/25/14) Well if one looks at many of the old balers like say a JD-14T they had a built in ORC due to the fact many tractors did not have live PTO make one think some one some place believed it was good. YES and YES an ORC is a good thing so the guys with little to know common sense do not end up like this and yes he had an ORC
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I didn't think I needed one till I ran over a bush the wife planted in the yard with the 8N and Woods Finish mower. Didn't push it far but far enough to park the tractor on top of the bush. I only mow the weeds in the pasture once a year with the Farmall M and 6 foot cutter. But man you got to know where to clutch without one.

Safe is always better than sorry.

Rick
 
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