Side dressing corn

Sparktrician · Jun 21, 2014

Howdy. Need to be getting around to side dressing the corn soon (50 acres).....in the past we have always rented the applicator from Harvestland coop and put on 28% liquid.

Thinking of MAYBE broadcasting urea (with additive to keep it from evaporating) this year.

Has anyone here done that? How did it work out? I read some articles on line this morning about it....but I would like someone here to give me yes / no votes....lol.

Last year we had major issues with the applicator from the coop, the pump let loose internally, and was putting on max rate....new pump not available....had to wait for them to come dribble it on (waited a week for that AFTER waiting 2.5 weeks for the applicator) Not sure I want to go down that road again. the applicator pump has been repaired.....but.....

We are on wide (38") rows....that is why I am stuck with getting harvestlands applicator....its the only one around anymore.....plenty of narrows, but no other wides.

Anyhow.....looking for advice. Thanks!

caterpillar guy · Jun 21, 2014

Well we used to use anhydrous ammonia for corn. Set for 30 inch rows. We would sell the old applicator then you would just need the regulator for it to work. It will work from 4 rows to 8 rows. We used it as an 8 row. 7 knives and skip the guess row. This is a 3PT toolbar no tank.
I personally spread all of my urea on the corn before planting to save the tracking in the corn. First time we did it this way. It was just the regular urea not the ESN stuff.
Now why can't you take a spray nozzle, and use as drop nozzles to apply your 28% with a sprayer pump. This way you could just set the pressure and go. Would of course have to calibrate like a sprayer. I worked for a guy 20 years ago. That was how he put his nitrogen on sugar beets as he cultivated. The tanks went on the front of the 4020 cultivator on 3PT. Washed the whole outfit down each night to get the 28 off the equipment.

Nick m · Jun 21, 2014

My neighbor does it and says he gets good results. He said his favorite part is how easy it is. Said they've done anhydrous and 28, so far they're sticking to this. I've done some reading on it too. It seems like in tests you do suffer a couple bushel to the acre, but the ease if operation makes up for it in my mind.

Nick m · Jun 21, 2014

Another thought. Will spreaders fit down 38in rows? I know narrow track ones will go down 30in but don't know about 38in.

Sparktrician · Jun 21, 2014

We tried the route of dribbling the N on last year....I wasn't impressed with how that went. We didn't get rain very quickly (2 weeks) after the application, and I don't know that the corn ever really got full advantage of the N that was applied that way.

I am concerned about the same issue with broadcasting urea, but I can hedge that risk with having the stuff blended in that controls the release of the N from the urea

NY 986 · Jun 21, 2014

I do urea with the stabilizer and have liked the results. My dealer has spreaders that have the wheels spaced for 30" rows. I do own a spreader but it will not fit the row but if I am working the urea in ahead of the planter then no problem. The only thing that might make me consider knifing liquid in if I were you was if the ground is heavy so the N passes slowly down and if rainfall looks to be very scarce. Last week I sweated applying some urea as the rain did not come the afternoon it was predicted but we got .70 inches the next day that was not forecasted.

Fergienewbee · Jun 21, 2014

I'm not even a little guy; I'm a food plotter. That said, I broadcast my fertilizer before planting and then a couple of time before harvest I broadcast urea using a hand spreader. It seems to work for me. I am curious about this additive to slow evaporation of urea. What is it?

Larry

wilamayb · Jun 21, 2014

I did a rescue application of N this week on some corn that stayed water logged for 2.5 weeks. I applied 28% through drag hoses on my highboy sprayer. It cost me around $450 for all of the parts to outfit 25 nozzles with orifices, caps and hoses.

Application was super easy but I'm unsure of the results yet. We received a light shower the following morning but I'm not sure it was enough to get it incorporated.

I chose drag hoses over stream bars due to the fact that my corn is already so stressed from water, wind and hail. I didn't think it could endure the leaf burn from stream bars.

tomstractorsandtoys · Jun 21, 2014

We do all our corn every year with urea and agritane added as a stablazier.Most buggys are set for 38" rows(Our coop has some for 30" as well).We put 200 lbs on corn following beans and 300 lbs on corn on corn.It works best to watch the weather and apply when rain chances are good.If it does not rain and you get hot weather you will get some burn on the plants but I feel it is more looks than anything.We cultivate some feilds after our fertlizer application.I do not like to put all my N on early in the spring as the potential for loss is to high.Tom

Nick m · Jun 21, 2014

Do you put any n on before or during planting?

tomstractorsandtoys · Jun 21, 2014

We put on 200 lbs of a 9-12-28 along with 4.8 lbs of sulfer with the planter. We also bulk spread 100 lbs urea and 100 lbs potash.

David G · Jun 21, 2014

I do not think anyone is set up for 38" here anymore except for sweet corn.

Sparktrician · Jun 22, 2014

Did some measuring and the buggy will go down the rows. Looks like I'm gonna do this tomorrow, rain coming on Tuesday!

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