Shingle Quality

CGID · Jun 18, 2014

I appreciate all the advise on this topic. I have put a few roofs on, never knew about the quality of what I was installing and my days of doing it myself are over.

JD Seller · Jun 18, 2014

The overall quality of roof shingles has fallen through the floor. Even buying higher priced thirty year shingles does not mean you will get them to last near that long. I see and hear of roofs that are not making it much past 10 years regardless of the shingle quality installed.

I am leaning towards steel of some type for my next roofing needs. There is the old traditional sheet style or the new segment/block style. It seems that the steel roof is holding up much better than shingles do now days. I think that the environmentally "safe" materials do not hold up as well as the materials allowed to be used in the past.

IF you can afford it the best is still standing seam roofing. I know of roofs that are over 100 years old that are steel standing seam roofing. I have read about some copper standing seam roofs that are centuries old.

So my vote would be to skip the shingles and go with some type of steel roofing.

Bob · Jun 18, 2014

I"m nearly in the arctic, here in north central ND, and putting (ugly) polebarn steel on house roofs has become the norm here, often with no provision for ventilation or even furring strips to allow for any air movement.

Shingles "breath", steel not so much.

Fast-forwarding ahead 15 or 25 years I wonder if moisture damage (or, heaven forbid, black mold) will be an issue.

RalphWD45 · Jun 18, 2014

We bought a 10 yr. old mobile home, in 2000, when we bought the 10 acres we live on. The seller has just reroofed it with comp shingles, and I instructed the inspector to check for leakage damage, as it seemed strange that it needed a roof, at 10 yrs. No damage was found, and the sale went thru. By last year the roof looked terrible, but we had no leaks, in spite of some missing shingles, taken off by a wind storm. I had a good company, come in and remove the two layers of shingles, we inspected the sheeting, and found no rot, from leakage, and they applied standing seam metal, in a blue color, and completely changed the looks of the house. We have been through 2 different hail storms this spring, and so far no dents.

Ultradog MN · Jun 19, 2014

The suburb I live in does not allow metal roofs on residential structures. Period.
I think the ordinance was passed in response to someone installing a corrugated roof years ago but now it's a no no for any type of metal.
Kind of goofy as there are some decent standing seam and other types of metal roofs available now days.

OldFarmTractor · Jun 19, 2014

Two years ago, I put standing seam steel on my home in Northern Illinois. They started with a layer of the rubberized water and ice shield. That was over the entire roof. This is for sound deadening and the fact that the steel will move more than shingles.

Over that they placed the roof with the hidden fasteners. It is a single piece, from ridge to edge. It is a very quiet roof, no rain noise or hail noise.

I also bought the heat reflective material. Even though it is a bit dark in color, it remains cool, even in the hot sun.

As for black mold or whatever, if water can't get under there how can there be problems? After all shingles don't have ventilation under them.

IH2444 · Jun 19, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:37:26 06/19/14) Two years ago, I put standing seam steel on my home in Northern Illinois. They started with a layer of the rubberized water and ice shield. That was over the entire roof. This is for sound deadening and the fact that the steel will move more than shingles.

Over that they placed the roof with the hidden fasteners. It is a single piece, from ridge to edge. It is a very quiet roof, no rain noise or hail noise.

I also bought the heat reflective material. Even though it is a bit dark in color, it remains cool, even in the hot sun.

As for black mold or whatever, if water can't get under there how can there be problems? After all shingles don't have ventilation under them.

It is called humidity and much of it comes from the warm humid air in the home.

Run a dehumidifier in a home and see how many gallons a day of water in collects.

Never seen a metal roof sweat on the inside and drip?
Of course not an issue in the SW dry climates.

DaninKansas · Jun 19, 2014

The biggest issue with "new" roofs is everyone seems to want a black roof. The roof soaks up heat like a sponge and the heat kills the shingles. They get hot enough that even the glue in the plywood sheeting starts to break down (seen that - a lot of people think it is water damage). Even the basic 3 tab Shasta White shingles will easily last 20 years still looking like new and many times stretch into 30-40 years while showing some wear.

Nathan (SD) · Jun 20, 2014

Just wondering? Can a guy pay a fine and put steel on anyway? What leverage do they have to make you comply? I live in the sticks. Urban rules and regs are foreign to me. Thanks.

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