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Who has been around international 800 and up corn planters! I started croping and planted with a old international 56 planter did ok but in rocks it stinks so the past 2 years i have hired a guy with a kinze 6 row does a great job i ran it some like the planter but cant afford 40000 for a new one! Sorry i cant get myself to go green yea the 7200 were great planters but i just couldnt sleep good if i had green in my shed! So i was thinking about a 800 international from what i hear so far parts are easy to get and thiers alot of updates i person could do! If i bought one here in a few months i could start a rebuild process! Thinking a 8 row planter no fertilizer and adding a liquid pop up fertilizer tank! Any ideas on good up dates to add on or which ones to stay away from? How much does the seed hopper hold? And how well do.they work on side hills? Thanks
 
I would look at something else. If you have rocks bad a cyclo is going to have the tubes that run from the manifold to the seedboot shaking affecting the seed spacing. If it is a plate planter then you have to address the issue of graded seed where you are at.
The Deere dealer has always treated me well but if you can't deal with green paint then the next least expensive option is to get a White 5100 planter which is a very good planter in its own right. Kinze's fall in the area that they usually out price a 7000 Deere but can be cheaper than a 7200 and 1750. Head to head I think I would take the White over the IH if the Deere is off the table.
 
I agree with him older white planters work fairly well and the prices are usually cheap , only thing with them is the wiring needs to be checked and they usually require a 75 amp alternator.
 
I've ran the IH air planters since 1988 and consider them the cream of the crop for planting.
I'd forget the starter fertilizer add-on, test shows that the phosphate needs to be added in the fall to get full value. make sure the opener wheels are close together, get the down pressure adjusted and your ready to go!
 
You are thinking of the older 5400 planter with the electric blower motor. The 5100 is hydraulic drive for the blower.
 
I think they are a great planter! It holds 15 bushels in the hopper. I plant just fine on hill sides and bumps. The only problem I had thus far was the drive chains didn't want to stay on, but that was was the plastic idler sprockets were wore, so I changed them to the rollers that I guess are on the 900 (they look like thread bobbins) and all is well. Planted close to 400 acres with it this year.
 
Have two 900 12 rows love them simple reliable and easy to work on but rarely needed best planter unit on the market don't believe me open a shoups catalog full of stuff to make a deere planter work better nothing for IH
 
Well stated DC3, I agree 100%. Have run both the Deere and IH. I'll take the IH any day over the Deere. Like you stated, good as is without add on's.
 
been using the same 400 cyclo since 1987,, put no till coulters on a tool bar in 1990, worx great,, 1st yr usin a 5100 soybean special ,, worx good ,,.. not prejudiced toward any color til they act like they are the best and I knowdamwell, they are full of problems too ...
 
The whole thing with the IH air planters is seed spacing accuracy. For high population planting it just is not accurate enough to satisfy some customers and of course seed corn companies. A whole lot of them in this area yet doing satisfactory job.
 
One of the posters mentioned bypassing fertilizer in the band but most soils in the East are pretty heavy and corn would benefit from fertilizer in the band if the soil got tight. You're from Pennsylvania, right? I would talk to your local fertilizer salesperson or an extension agent before I made an abrupt change in my application methods. At the very least it will take a season to get potash and phosphate levels up to where the corn would be alright without banded fertilizer.
 
I wouldn"t go away from putting on starter fertilizer yea im from pa! Use to do dry fertilizer through the planter and broad cast nitrogen and extra potash! But when I hired the guy with the new kinzie he was using liquid fertilizer! Two nitrogen tanks on the planter for 6 rows and one starter fertilizer tank on the planter! He said if he ever buys another planter again he would do away with nitrogen on the planter and go back to spreading dry nitrogen for two reasons one speed up actual planting time cause you don"t half to stop as much and two because the nitrogen eats the planter even though he steams it every year and sprays the whole planter with fluid film! the nitrogen eats it says the starter is nearly as bad as the nitrogen! So I was thinking I could find a good condition 800 or up planter with no fertilizer put liquid starter on the planter and broad cast all my nitrogen!
 
The good thing about an 8 row or less, is that it only has 1 seed box as all plants should have. I had a 12-30 that would plant between 1/2" and 3" deep. It did better in corn than beans and the spacing was not very good on both. The best cheap spacing was the Knize at 5 mph but you got all of those boxes and the early ones were light built.
 
Sorry I missed this post...Daddy's day don't you know! You have most of your answers now so I will join in and say that I doubt you can go wrong with an 800 or newer Cyclo. Like you plan to do, I bought mine in the late summer last year and did all the rebuilding and tuning up in advance, although I missed a few things and had to punt. I planted 8 solid rows with good population. Ground was a bit rougher than I would have liked but the near constant rain made life a misery and some areas just were gonna have a lot of clods. No worries though, this thing will plant thru cement. I only had 4-5 oz of pressure but must have been the gauge because it didn't miss much. I have 20 acres of hay I can't get cut due to yet more rain but it is a consolation to watch that corn grow while I wait.
 
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