Okay, so we have been pumping billions of barrels of oil from under ground for years and years. Is all of the subsidence we are seeing these days a result of that, crude oil caverns caving in? Also as the world water levels rise from global warming, can we just put the extra water into the already existing under ground oil caverns. The water would go to the bottom forcing the remaining oil to the top, so it would be a win win scenario?
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Ted in NE-OH
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The world was much warmer once when the dinosaurs were around and mam wasn"t. We will adapt with no problem.
Don't really know much about it, but a lot of current oil
pumping involves putting water and special sand down into the
rock layers, to force the oils up and out.
So, kinda doing what you say.
A few billion barrels of oil is a drop in the bucket, not
noticeable compared to the oceans and water available on this
planet.
A lot of the sink holes come from limestone regions, where
water over time carries away the limestone, as it very very
slowly erodes from the underground water.
In certain cases underground mining and oil drilling clearly has
caused the ground to cave in, of course. But most of what you
hear is from limestone. If you see that house that is in the
news, falling in a river, some speculate that an underground
sprinkler system was enough to wet through and crack the
limestone under the house.... Tho, to most of us it just looks
like bad planning!
Paul
pumping involves putting water and special sand down into the
rock layers, to force the oils up and out.
So, kinda doing what you say.
A few billion barrels of oil is a drop in the bucket, not
noticeable compared to the oceans and water available on this
planet.
A lot of the sink holes come from limestone regions, where
water over time carries away the limestone, as it very very
slowly erodes from the underground water.
In certain cases underground mining and oil drilling clearly has
caused the ground to cave in, of course. But most of what you
hear is from limestone. If you see that house that is in the
news, falling in a river, some speculate that an underground
sprinkler system was enough to wet through and crack the
limestone under the house.... Tho, to most of us it just looks
like bad planning!
Paul
CenTex Farmall
Well-known Member
Not sure about that, but what I can tell you is that I felt several earth tremors in the last 12 months and we are south of the Barnett Shale, i.e. no wells within many miles of here.
No tremors at all until they started the fracking several years ago. Makes you wonder.
No tremors at all until they started the fracking several years ago. Makes you wonder.
B.C.Farmer
Member
Hey Jed. You don"t happen to work as a contractor for a
pipeline company do you?
pipeline company do you?
Glen SW Wi
Member
Oil is not bumped out of a big lake underground. It is situated between the grains of sand or rock. Therefore when you pump out the oil the surface above is still supported by the permeable sand or rock. Never heard of an oil well causing the ground to collaps. I"m sure it is possible in a shallow well but, most wells are drawing from over 1,000 ft down.
Nancy Howell
Well-known Member
Town of Azle, north of Dallas, never had quakes. They're having dozens now that fracking is going on. Townspeople are not happy.
Google "earthquakes Azle, Tx"
Google "earthquakes Azle, Tx"
Sinkholes, caveins, and such are caused by removal of natural resources much closer to the surface. Things such as salt, coal, etc..
As far as pumping water into the "empty" oil wells to lower ocean levels... Well, it would make a literal spit in the ocean's difference.
According to the NOAA, there is about 352,670,000,000,000,000,000 gallons of water in the oceans. That's 8,396,904,761,904,761,904 barrels of water. That's quintillion.
IIRC someone earlier said the earth uses 52,000,000 barrels of oil in a year. That's .0000000062% of the total water in the ocean.
Besides it would probably come back up as steam anyway.
As far as pumping water into the "empty" oil wells to lower ocean levels... Well, it would make a literal spit in the ocean's difference.
According to the NOAA, there is about 352,670,000,000,000,000,000 gallons of water in the oceans. That's 8,396,904,761,904,761,904 barrels of water. That's quintillion.
IIRC someone earlier said the earth uses 52,000,000 barrels of oil in a year. That's .0000000062% of the total water in the ocean.
Besides it would probably come back up as steam anyway.
I wish I would have read this earlier.
I think that sea water is pumped down in the well to push the oil out. there are few places where the oil comes out on it's own due to ground pressure. My water well is like this, drill a 5" hole for a well casing and water comes out at 100 gallons per minute.
I think that sea water is pumped down in the well to push the oil out. there are few places where the oil comes out on it's own due to ground pressure. My water well is like this, drill a 5" hole for a well casing and water comes out at 100 gallons per minute.
There is already water present with the oil and gas, the hydrocarbons are trapped under and within sedimentary rock and water is below the hydrocarbons. As the oil and or gas is produced water fills the pore spaces in the rock evnetually the wells make water instead of oil and gas. Global warming is a complete sham, it has been proven a hoax yet people still believe.
CenTex Farmall
Well-known Member
I'll check that out. I had heard bits of stuff in the news about tremors in the metroplex.
The predictions may be off (not sure of that), but sea levels are rising anyway. Funny how nature does what she wants to regardless of predictions, good or bad, lol...
http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/ocean/critical-issues-sea-level-rise/
Actually, sea levels are not rising, tidal measurement is improving and becoming much more accurate, tidal guages most places have been replaced by satellite altimeter measurements and the more accurate measurements also take erosion etc. into account, global warmiist hucksters have kidnapped this science to further their own lies and keep the scam alive.
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