Products from rendering plants

Some of you like to eat eggs from chickens who eat cow poo.

Well guess what comes from stinky rendering plants?

This is a copy of part of the article n rendering plants.

With the rendering process, every bit of farmed animals (and sometimes even our dog and cat companions) is used in an astonishing variety of items — lubricants, polish, soap, cement, ink, lipstick, pharmaceuticals, Jell-O, gummy candies, pet foods and agricultural feed, to name just a few. The rendering industry utilizes a “witch’s brew” of animal parts: spinal cords, brains, eyeballs, and intestines, turning whatever’s not wanted by the food and clothing industries into the components of a thousand useful products.

I'm sure none of this can be true!
Products from rendering plants

can't get anymore biased than that. Once again you have to consider the source of all these "facts".

But I LIKE the hog hooves in my Jello... that's what makes it "Jello-y". LOL.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I had no idea there were some 50 renderers in each state! I guess we should just dump all the roadkill, offal and carcass bits out on some landfill and let it stink.....

The blood thinner Heprin is made from pig intestines. If my info is correct, I wotked some in a plant that took the intestines and made the stuff that they use to make Heprin.

amen to that brother

First off - chickens don't actually eat "cow poo". They scratch through it to get any undigested grain that passed through the cow. They also eat bugs. So what? They also will eat just about anything tossed out to them. They are natural scavengers. Chickens have been doing it foe centuries.

As for cows, grass fed, no inoculations, and you know what went into them.
Pigs aren't edible anyway, so what difference does it make?

Much ado about nothing.

this biased article is 12 years old got anything a little more recent?

Sorry I have to laugh at this quote...

" crayons (vegan-sourced crayons are not hard to find)"

I am a meatatarian. And the last thing I would worry about in my busy day is whether my crayons are vegan/vegetarian approved.

Funny article, biased as all get out

Rick

I think for the most part the article is true. About 30 years ago, I was in Rochester, N.Y. The rendering plant that picked up our dead cows was nearby. Stopped in and got the tour. First no dogs, cats, or chickens were on the premises. Dead animals were skinned and gutted. The carcass were winched into live steam fed vertical vats and steam cooked. Then they were winched out and six or more men with garden rakes separated bone and meat for further processing. The big room where the animals were prepped and cooked actually just smelled quite like the exhaust of a resturant.
Everything was processed as soon as it came in.
There were 55 gallon barrels of bones and fat.
It came from grocery store meat departments.
It seemed like a clean smooth running facility.
I know some of the cows were pretty ripe when they left our farm. Rendering company usually picked them in a regular cattle truck with a winch inside the front of the box. Took calves too. Driver got about 12 cows per truck
But, maybe things have changed in the last 30 years.

The plant near me makes bio diesel, cooks down the lard.

Paul

George we all have to die from something. I would rather die from eating eggs from a chicken that followed a pig that followed a cow then eat a egg from a place that probably got its eggs from a country that puts poison in the food that this country buys. I think that most stores that people buy there eggs from buys from a company in this country but is no better then the one that caused all of the problems a few years ago, when they sold bad eggs and people got sick and some even died. Now they are out of the egg business and not even in jail. I will eat food from a place that I know what they are fed, not some unknown place even if it is from a cows a$$.

Bob

we just had a semi load of used cow parts over turn on the hiway week or 2 ago, quite a mess

Around large poultry growing areas chicken litter
(manure+bedding)used to be fed to dairy and beef cattle all the time.Eat steak?

I think I would find an unbiased source, before I render my opinion...

A newer article with the same message. Some of our food comes from rendering plants.

Bet some of you will challenge this as being biased, so if you please post an unbiaded article, not just say what I post is all biased, not a good source.
newer article

As long as I can get my allotment of Solyent Green, I am a solid supporter of rendering plants!

Sorry but that is hogwash. There is no dairy ration that has been formulated around chicken crap. Anyone who has the foggiest understanding of ruminant physiology would know there is no nutrition in chicken manure or bedding that would be of any advantage to a cows digestive system. The ammonia level alone would cause a cow to go off feed with a case of acidosis. Not to mention what a highly elevated blood urea nitrogen level would do. Sounds like a case of a "natural" farmer creating facts about commercial agriculture.

That is a better source.

Your original source is from, basically, terrorists, and should be mocked and ridiculed no matter what they have to say. They are a more disgusting group than the vat contents of a rendering plant......

Now, as to the message you are promoting....

Yea? So?

We want cheap food. We would rather save our money for cable bills, cell phone bills, car payments, and electronic gadgets from China.

As long as food has some basic oversight to keep it relatively safe, we just want it cheap, sugared, and greasy.

It's always been that way.

Corn prices went up to double or more the past 2 years do to some real odd weather, and folks were howling even here on food costing too much. Heck, our system allowed for plenty of food available, never mind a 15% minor cost increase..... In a different system we are more likely to be complaining about a lack of food, that would be much worse!

Change stuff like this and pet food will be double or more, food food will go up a lot more too as we pay landfill costs to get rid of food wastes, create a bigger ecological waste and inefficiencies.....

People will complain more about that then if a little jello comes from a rendering plant.

If you look closer at the rendering plants, the stuff that makes it to food is pretty specialized, and is separated from the stuff that is smelly and bad - don't mean different piles of dead critter parts, but separated by what it is when it comes out of the plant -, so it isn't quite as dire as projected by your sources, but it is indeed what it is.

Heck the best steak from the best cut on the grill came from a few inches away from the manure pile inside the cow anyhow, not much difference for those of us really aware of food.

You have some good conerns we mostly know, we need to keep a balance in life.

Paul

Jeez, after reading some of your post I would have to "guess" you are from New York? maybe Ct?

You don't know what you're talking about Chicken
litter is very high in protein

Paul,
I posted this to show where are foods come from. Some are worried about importing from other countries. What meats are sold at Wal-mart.

However, when I can't stand the thought eating eggs when chickens are eating cow poo, others think it's OK. Recently there have been posts about rendering plants. I find it interesting what comes from rendering plants and it's in our food chain. I knew you could put lipstick on a pig, just didn't know that you could turn a dead pig into lipstick. So the next time you kiss a woman with lipstick, remember you could be kissing a dead pig Or a dead ripe rotting cow.

Mad cow was spread from rendering plants. I find it hard to believe all the crap that's in the US food chain not to mention all the sick dead aminals that got boiled.

Posted this to give people something to think about.
George

I thought about it. I'm okay with it. Pass the Jell-O.

That is true, but so is granular urea fertilizer but there is a reason why it isn't incorporated into the diet of animals. Do you have any clue what MUN and BUN levels are and how they affect animal health and production? If you did you would know that chicken litter can not be fed to ruminants for the reasons I wrote in my first post. I don't care where you read that it is. You are doing just as I said, posting erroneous information about commercial agriculture in hopes of putting "traditional" ag in a position of superiority. And instead of telling me I don't know what I am talking about, tell us where you received your education in ruminant nutrition. Mine was a degree from Michigan State University in Dairy Management and Nutrition.

I worked in the rendering industry for 11 years. It has went through a large change in the last few years since Mad Cow. Integrated renders don't stink? B.S., Was coming through Austin Minnesota on January 6, 2013, yep Hormel still runs an integrated rendering plant, last I knew a Dupps 1800 cooker with a super shaft and a waste heat evaporator and I could smell it on I-90. Same day I smelled one in Mason City Iowa and Green Bay Wisconsin too!

With Mad Cow there was a firewall put in place that prohibits the use of ruminant derived proteins in feed for ruminants. We as an industry missed the market trend, when the firewall went in place we figured the price of porcine derived meat & bone meal would spike, it didn't, it settled in in a trend that follows soy bean meal as they can be interchanged in rations almost 1 for 1.

Fats can be used as a fuel or run through another process to make Bio diesel. The company I worked for in Green Bay also had a marketing company that sold tallows and greases as boiler fuel and equipped their boilers to run on this fuel.

Processes, the article talked about cookers and running at 220 degrees, most plant's I've been in the cookers are under a vacuum and they usually cook at less than 190 degrees. The lower you can cook the less damage to the protein and the less fuel used to cook the water off. One really great day I ran poultry offal most of a shift between 160 and 165 degrees. There are continuous cookers that run under a vacuum. Batch cookers that may run under pressure or a vacuum. Some plants use evaporators were the materiel is heated in shell and tube heat exchangers, at various stages the material is run through a vacuum that pulls the water vapor out. I also worked at a plant that had a wet rendering process that heated with a shell and tube exchangers and separated fats solids and water through a series of centrifuges and used a dryer to dry the solids enough to make them safe to store without spoilage.

Feathers are run through a different process, either in a batch hydrolizers or continuous hydrolizers. If processed correctly you get 80% protein with good palatable and digestibility. One plant I worked in when we ran good feathers you would salivate because of the smell, actually it smelled like something you wanted to eat. I have worked in plants that also used batch hydrolizers to cook hide trimmings and fleshings to soften them up enough to be able to be run through a rendering process.

As well as meat scraps, dead and fallen animals and slaughter house waste renders also run waste cooking oil. Waste cooking oil is the stuff the restaurants throw out from their fryers and oils cooked off in restaurants or food processing plants. Some renderers also clean out grease traps and process the solids and greases out of them, usually the grease is of such low quality and attempt to feed it back to animals results in palatability problems (they won't eat it).

Products: Meat and Bone meal- solids recovered from the rendering process usually about 50% protein. Poultry meal- solid recovered from rendering of poultry products, typically the spec is 60%. Quality factors are the lighter the color the better and the more "powderey" it is indicates higher quality. Poultry meal is usually sold at a premium and into the companion animal feed market. In fact many of the contracts with the poultry processors are the poultry firm gets all the oil back and equivalent tonnage of meat & bone meal and the renderer collects a service fee and sells the poultry meal.

Greases and oils Tallow (fancy, extra fancy, bleachable fancy, technical, feed grade) Choice white grease (pig fat), Yellow grease (restaurant grease) and Brown Grease (from grease traps or reclaimed from other processes that heat or burn the grease and mess it up) Quality indications on greases and oils are color (the closer to clear the better) the amount of Free Fatty Acids and the hardness (melting point)

Feather meal, Bone meal and blood meal

Rendered products are used in Bio fuels, organic fertilizers as well as animal feed for companion or production animals.

In the last ten years the industry has undergone consolidation, both the firms I worked for have been swallowed up by bigger firms. One firm I worked for was in the 5th generation of family ownership spanning 120 years before it bought out it's competitor to the west and then itself selling out to a competitor headquartered in Canada. One of the business problems we were having was the cost of liability insurance. In another deal we saw the largest street renderer absorb the 2nd and 3rd largest rendering companies in the business.

I made another post that seems to have poofed. Short and sweet is I think this is just George having fun rattling chains. Anyone who is the least bit squeamish about food and what grew the food would probably never eat if they really looked at thing. To take the idea George is using a bit further-, yup, chickens and pigs will root around in cow and horse poop looking for food. Plants do the same thing and all our foods are the result of one plant or animal eating the byproduct of another. The bread you eat grew from wheat that fed off the poop of zillions of insects, microbes, protozoa, bacteria, etc. The cow ate lots of bugs over it's life and momma cow loves to lick the crap off her calf. That's straight cow crap, not the grains in it, going right into mommas mouth. That baked potato skin is going to have some dirt with worm and bug and maybe livestock crap on it.

Where do you want to draw the line? Humans decompose and feed the plants and bugs and worms that the chickens and pigs and cows end up eating when you come down to it.

It's all a game of perspective. I'd lots rather eat something I know ate grass and licked it's calfs butt than a tomato from some country where they spray pure poison on the plants every day and that has to wash off with soap and water. Nobody uses soap and water on veggies. Juan the illegal with TB that's picking that lettuce has been known to hack a lugie onto that head of lettuce that gets a quick rinse.

Where do you draw the line?