Right to Farm Bill in MO

Anonymous-0 · Jun 5, 2014

Come Aug we are to vote on Right to Farm Bill. I have been doing a lot of reading on the subject which is very controversial and it's hard to decipher the actual facts. As a side note, I read Smith's Group is now Chinese owned?

rrlund · Jun 5, 2014

I don't know what your Right to Farm entails,but here in Michigan it's a constantly evolving thing. They've just dropped livestock protections in some heavily populated areas. It doesn't always make sense to have stringent rules set in stone.
I guess if I had to vote in favor of one,it would have to be like ours and change with time and science.

Anonymous-0 · Jun 5, 2014

well this is pretty vague, and have to wonder it is needed:
Proposed Constitutional Amendment:

Section 35. That agriculture which provides food, energy, health benefits, and security is the foundation and stabilizing force of Missouri’s economy. To protect this vital sector of Missouri’s economy, the right of farmers and ranchers to engage in farming and ranching practices shall be forever guaranteed in this state, subject to duly authorized powers, if any, conferred by article VI of the Constitution of Missouri.

What you will see:

2014 Ballot Summary:

Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to ensure that the right of Missouri citizens to engage in agricultural production and ranching practices shall not be infringed?

HCooke · Jun 5, 2014

I think this may be in response to the doggie breeding bill that was attempted a few sessions ago.

rrlund · Jun 5, 2014

Kinda vague. Here's some of what ours looks like. It's quite detailed obviously.
MDARD Right to Farm

harely · Jun 5, 2014

michigans law doesn't protect much when the judge refuses to allow it

rrlund · Jun 5, 2014

About all you can do is appeal. At least it gives you a little bit of a leg to stand on to make the appeal.

Pitch · Jun 5, 2014

here is a copy of ours:
Town of Fayette

Anonymous-0 · Jun 5, 2014

well at least yours has some substance to it. Still gotta ? why we need it? Dang people move out the country and then complain about the farms - where is the common sense with the judges, if they would just throw out frivolous lawsuits but charge for the courts time it would put an end to this crapp.

Anonymous-0 · Jun 5, 2014

it's a dang novel.

Bob Harvey · Jun 5, 2014

We know the legislators are into doggy style amongst themselves.

rrlund · Jun 6, 2014

That's what I'd be afraid of with yours. With that little detail,it'll be up to activist judges to interpret.

GeneMO · Jun 6, 2014

I am kinda of the opinion that is should be "who was there first"

It pisses me off when people move to the country, the 6 months later complain about the smell of a hog confinement that has been there for years.

On the reverse though, I still own the farm I was born on, and our family has owned it since 1937. Now if someone builds a hog confinement next door and it stinks to high heaven everytime I want to have folks over for a BBQ, then I am going to want to sue their butts. So I could be for the bill, or against it. No doubt it will just muddy the waters.

Gene

rrlund · Jun 6, 2014

I know of a place that about fits that description. It looks like it was a pretty darned nice dairy farm at one time. Concrete block stanchion barn,just a nice looking place. A big turkey operation went up right across the road to the west so they're catching the stink on the wind constantly. We stopped there at a yard sale one time. It was about enough to gag a maggot off a gut wagon.

ss55 · Jun 6, 2014

Wow, that is really vague. I suspect even the writers of the law and the legislators who approved it knew that it is so uninterpretable and unenforceable that it will be meaningless. However, it will sure sound good on this fall's campaign trail.

Most laws like that are much more specific to protect existing land owners. We have defined distances to prevent someone from building a new home within a certain distance of existing feedlots, and also to prevent someone from building a new feed lot within that same distance of existing homes. Many towns and cities are re-examining their restrictions on keeping farm animals, poultry and bees within city limits. Most windup keeping the restrictions in place to protect the existing land owners.

Dumb question: Why did this law only apply to farmers and ranchers instead of every type of business?

mkirsch · Jun 6, 2014

Now if someone builds a hog confinement next door and it stinks to high heaven everytime I want to have folks over for a BBQ, then I am going to want to sue their butts.

Pun intended?

Hog confinement... sue their butts...

Dan T in MO · Jun 6, 2014

The Right to Farm bill is in response to the dog breeding ban of a couple years ago. Originally, it was designed to shut down all of the animal rights activists trying to ban this or that farming practice. But to get it past the St. Louis, Kansas City and Columbia legislators, the sponsors had to take the teeth out of it.

I plan to vote in favor of it. Do I think it's going to protect me? No. Do I think it's needed (as written)? No. Do I think it's worth the paper it's written on? No. But HSUS and PETA are campaigning against it, so it must be good for something.

Dr. Walt · Jun 6, 2014

mkirsch:

"Hog confinement... sue their butts..."

How do you sue a Hog Butt ?
Sounds to me like it might have a crappy outcome.

LOL!

:>)

IH2444 · Jun 6, 2014

I suspect this amendment is crafted to protect the mega farmer.

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