So, an excavating co. is wanting some of my dirt...

Gilbert in IL. · Jun 4, 2014

He said he cleaned out ponds & made them bigger & we do have small pond. I believe he said he needed 100 truck loads, not yards. I already looked up how much a yard of dirt is(27 cu. ft.). He also stated he paid 1$ a yard & I have No clue if thats the "going rate". I Will say, sure wish Dad was still w/us, he worked for IDOT running a Gradall many years! He`d make sure they Did`er right...lol!!! I appreciate any sort of advice...& Thank You in advance....GAS

waltdavies · Jun 4, 2014

Before digging out your pond check all state and local laws it
may surprise you what you can do with or without a permit.
Walt

ohiojim · Jun 4, 2014

if you're wanting a bigger pond it sounds like a good deal

Super Trucker · Jun 4, 2014

Figure 4 yards per axle not counting the steer axle. So a typical
semi would be 16 yards on average. If you want bigger ponds
he's footing the bill.

IH2444 · Jun 4, 2014

Make sure they guarantee in writing that your pond will still hold water after they get done.

JRSutton · Jun 4, 2014

And if it's anything like Massachusetts, expect to be laughed at when you ask.

JMS/.MN · Jun 4, 2014

Check with other excavators or quarries regarding what they charge per yard, just for material. It"s been 11 years since I loaded trucks in a quarry but IIRC the dump trucks held 16 yards and the belly dumps were 19 or so.

Deere Scotty · Jun 4, 2014

I helped a co worker price some dirt to put behind his home last year. THE PRICE WAS BETWEEN $170, & $240 PER CUBIC YARD! This around Central, IN, & we had to haul it ourselves! He decided to save his money for other things!

kswillie · Jun 4, 2014

"expect to be laughed at when you ask". JR Why do you say that? I'm in Kansas and have no idea how things are done in your part of the country. Here you would agree on the price and just start digging and that would be it.

37chief · Jun 4, 2014

Things are different out here in Calif. People pay to have dirt hauled away. If he is willing to make your pound bigger give him the dirt. Stan

Mike (WA) · Jun 4, 2014

A buck a yard would be about right around here. I would imagine if he's paying for the dirt, you won't end up with the slopes of the pond graded, etc.- might want to broach the subject with him, and maybe pay him to slick up the pond when he's done.

Mike (WA) · Jun 4, 2014

Got to be something wrong with that figure- that sounds about right for a truck load (12 cu. yds). I bought a yard of nice topsoil a couple years ago- 8 bucks, loaded on my pickup, from a commercial gravel pit (they sell the topsoil overburden).

acken fromwisc · Jun 4, 2014

I agree with Walt, removing that fill is considered mining. You mught need a permit.

Anonymous-0 · Jun 4, 2014

You don't just start digging in a pond in Pa. or you will be digging your way out of jail or a big fine!! "DEP" don't you know!!

dpendzic · Jun 4, 2014

each state has a limit on the size of a fresh water pond that's is subject to regulation--in Ma it was 10.2 acres and i think NY was less--check your local wetland laws

Paul from MI · Jun 4, 2014

Be a little cautious. Technically you are running a mining operation if you sell the dirt. A friend in Ohio got into problems digging gravel out of a creek that way.

Ultradog MN · Jun 4, 2014

I have a property that got mined for fill dirt about 40 years ago.
I wish I was as smart as the fellow who owned it then.
I was talking to a civil engineer I met at a burger joint a few years ago and he estimated that they took about 1/2 million cubic yards out of it
I'll figure this in today's money just to make it simple.
16.7 acres X $2500/acre = ~ $42,000 for the land.
Selling 500,000 yards of dirt at $1/yard = $500,000
Means he made a tidy profit of $458,000.
Not bad on a small parcel of land.

TGIN · Jun 4, 2014

The county is putting in a new bridge down the RD. from me and will need about 100 - 110 loads . I am making a deal with them to take a hilltop behind my house . They are going to push the topsoil off then take the fill they need and put the topsoil back and reseed with a slope away from the house . First they will rebuild the road to the backside of the hill [ about a 1/4 mile ] which includes a 20" pipe . They will cut 2 diversion ditches behind the house then top dress the drives around the house and barn with 53s and dust when they are done . Dollar for Dollar I dont know what is worth what but I am getting a road back to where I feed cows in the winter and all the water away from my house and driveways that I cant afford to do on my own and they only have to haul the dirt about a mile , everybody wins !! Just make a deal you can live with , he has a excavating co. with lots of equipment , what do you need done .

showcrop · Jun 4, 2014

I drive a triaxle dump truck occasionally. The last two days I hauled sand at 18 yards per load. If it is stone it is 21 yards per load. If it is crusher run it is only 16 yards because it is very heavy. Dirt is cheap. Getting it moved is expensive. As others have said, check what the laws are. Around here the gov't. likes to help farmers make ponds. Make sue that you have an agreement about what it will look like when he is done, and that he posts a bond in case he tries to skip out without finishing.

westga · Jun 4, 2014

the price per yard can also be tied to the distance from your site
to the place he needs 100 loads delivered to. if you are say 2
miles and his next possible place to get dirt is say 15 mile or
more he should pay more. also set it up so you get paid daily if
you can. I know of a similar deal were the contractor was slow
to pay and went bust. he owed in the six figure range for the
dirt and all we got was some change.

Dick2 · Jun 4, 2014

If this is good dirt that will grow plants, I wouldn't sell it for any price. I would just stockpile it for future use.

If is subsoil that won't grow any plants, I'd even think real hard about letting any of the non-fertile soil go even for a good price. Once it's gone, you'll never get it back unless you pay a high price to buy it from someone else.

Dean Olson · Jun 4, 2014

Buddy had that done. About 3 acres 10-12 ft deep. Agreed to
the price and terms. Terms where to build a gravel road and
contour the pond when done. He got pd as they hauled it out and
the road got half azz put in. The dozer never showed up to finish.
The guy went broke during all this so there was not any body to
sue. All in all he came out ahead. This was on 100 acres and he
chose the perfect spot.

Gilbert in IL. · Jun 4, 2014

TGIN...Your the winner, ALL of ya`all are though, AND Thank You!!! There put`n in a new bridge....~ a mile south of us & need`n the dirt. My Middle Boss(oldest dotter, 15 & fishes), was kinda disappointed hearing pond would have to be drained...lol! Gotta read more advice but Had to give TGIN the "ya read the situation right" badge...!....GAS

Gilbert in IL. · Jun 4, 2014

We`re a `lil less than 20 acres here. 20 acres TOTAL. It would take some of 1 of my cow pasture lots...I see if`n I can find a pic of the daughter & a good friend(Yep, a Boy...lol)...& REfiger out how to post it!....GAS

ss55 · Jun 4, 2014

Sediment in a pond should be local topsoil, (with the nitrogen leached out from being under water?). Figure 1500 pounds per cubic yard of topsoil. Most garden centers sell good topsoil for $40 to $60 per yard loaded on your truck, or $3 per 40 pound bag.

If he cleans out your pond to your liking and pays you to boot, it might be a good deal. Get some other quotes to have your pond cleaned for an honest comparison. Put all your requirements in writing before authorizing any work.

If the sediment is mostly from your land, you might consider keeping it and adding some erosion control.

Gilbert in IL. · Jun 4, 2014

Anonymous-0 · Jun 4, 2014

A yard of dirt is a yard of dirt. LoL Most tandem
dump trucks normally carry about 12 yds. Tri-axles
or end dumps can carry up to 24 yds. I'd get paid
by how many yards rather than so many truck loads.
You're losing out if they carry 15 or 16 yds. and
only pay you for 12. Jobs are figured by cubic
yards, not truck loads. I'd get an agreement drawn
up that say's you have to be satisfied when they
are finished. Having them pay a deposit until
you're satisfied would be a good incentive for
them to keep their word. You could get a nice road
and pond in the deal and not have to do anything.
They could also make a heck of a mess. Make sure
they get all the necessary permits.

Gilbert in IL. · Jun 4, 2014

This is an OLD picture....& man did I hammered for a "no life jacket"....boats not been in water fer a while...but the pic shows surroundings & size....GAS....PS., its silted in & deepest is about 4 1/2-5 feet...GAS

just another old geezer · Jun 4, 2014

A neighbor has a sand pit (average sand, not frac
sand). The going rate for pit sand is $1.00 per
yard. The digging, loading and delivery is what
costs.

NewEnglandFarmer · Jun 5, 2014

I"d say that"s about right.

We"re involved in excavating, and that"s about what we would pay. Perhaps $2-3 for coarse gravel or nice unscreened loam. But just fill, yea $1 per yard is right, especially if they are loading with their equipment.

In Mass there are mostly ten-wheelers (tandems) and tri-axles. The weight limits vary from state to state, but in Mass most ten-wheelers carry 16 yards and most tri-axles 18 yards.

If you have no use for the material, let them do the work taking it out, and make a couple bucks in the process.

showcrop · Jun 5, 2014

(quoted from post at 19:01:33 06/04/14) TGIN...Your the winner, ALL of ya`all are though, AND Thank You!!! There put`n in a new bridge....~ a mile south of us & need`n the dirt. My Middle Boss(oldest dotter, 15 & fishes), was kinda disappointed hearing pond would have to be drained...lol! Gotta read more advice but Had to give TGIN the "ya read the situation right" badge...!....GAS

Gilbert, Maybe, Maybe not. Your original post says "man" needs dirt, while TGIN was working with the county, huge difference. The contractor working for the county is just providing the men and equipment and working to the county specs which means the county will make sure that it is done right and landowner gets paid. If you are dealing with "man" only you need to watch out for your own interests. HUGE difference.

NNP · Jun 5, 2014

have it written in that he will leave you a good sized pile of dirt somewhere.
Ya always need some dirt, sometimes/somewhere,
and the price of getting even a small amount of dirt or stone delivered today is .....$....

So, an excavating co. is wanting some of my dirt...

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