Bought a brand new Allis Chalmers

rrlund · May 16, 2014

When I found out how much it irritated some people that Simplicity put the Allis name on these I knew I had to have one.
I was at the end of my rope with that old MTD Husky yesterday morning and went to town and bought this. He sold it to me out the door,delivered,for what I was going to offer difference if he'd take the old one in. It's not as stripped as some led me to believe. 23 horse,hydro,electric lift and electric deck clutch. Nice outfit.

I put the old one on Craigslist,advertised the motor but said they'd have to take the whole thing,$200. Somebody called two hours later and it was out of here an hour and a half after that.

G1355 · May 16, 2014

Always thought they were white, never seen one black, didnt it have shields on deck or you already take them off.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

I guess the black ones were the last ones made. No shields when they delivered it,but then,how many of us have cursed those things when we had to change a belt? If they don't tell me they forgot something,I'm not going to bring it up.

Larry NEIL · May 16, 2014

Traitor!
:>))

Lookin good! Hope it lasts ya a ling time Randy.

Paul from MI · May 16, 2014

Sounds like a deal, good looking mower. Not so sure on those electric blade clutches. I replaced one for my neighbor on an Ariens and seems like it was over $200 for the parts. Easy fix, just expensive.

Eric in IL · May 16, 2014

WOW, 23 horses. What do you figure she'd ought to pull, 2 fourteens ?

rrlund · May 16, 2014

They're all Agco under the skin aren't they? LOL
That was the first place I saw them was at the Agco dealer,then I found out the hardware store right here in town sold them,so I thought "what the heck". At least there's none of that ugly orange paint on it.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

That's more power than a CA had isn't it?

bison · May 16, 2014

(quoted from post at 13:54:48 05/16/14) That's more power than a CA had isn't it?

doubt it has more power than the 12 horse cast iron series kohler in my old 73 JD 112

Sean Feeney · May 16, 2014

Didn't see any shields in these photos
link

Royse · May 16, 2014

Nice looking rig.
Do you know who actually made it?
The deck looks like it may be MTD to me.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, just curious.
Got any left over Meadow Green paint?

J.Wondergem · May 16, 2014

WOW Randy. You can mow in style now. Are you going to paint it green and put some Oliver stickers on it? :lol:

Billy NY · May 16, 2014

Funny to see that brand on there, how long has it been ? Sure its re-badged, but it sells, you bought one LOL!

johnlobb · May 16, 2014

The dealer in Gregory by me had one last spring but it was orange and white, made by Simplicity. I thought it looked kind of cool.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

It's a Simplicity. I assumed they made it. Don't know for sure. Brad said they went to them because Toro wasn't making tractors anymore,only zero turns.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

I'd be a liar if I told you the thought of pealing those off and putting Oliver decals on it hadn't crossed my mind. There's no decal on the back of it and I've got a real nice little keystone decal here that would fit it like a glove.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

Ya,the ones I saw at Card Brothers in Chesaning were orange and white. I liked the look of those right off the bat,but those colors among all this Oliver green didn't seem just quite right,but when I saw the black ones,now that was a different story.
I don't know how many the hardware store has,but the two display models are still out. They got this one out of a crate and set it up for me.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

Farmer friendly and pre modified. Can't beat that deal with a stick. LOL

IH2444 · May 16, 2014

Made by Briggs and Stratton which owns Simplicity.

Bob · May 16, 2014

Actually, you DIDN'T buy an "Allis Chalmers"! Might as well buy a "Bell and Howell" or "Crosley" product off of the 'net, same relationship to the original company/brand name, but, dear Lord, makes the cash register RING!!!

WHAT is the "feel good thing" that comes from buying a Briggs and Scrapiron" with Alice Chambers decals on it????

Are you a Briggs stockholder?

rrlund · May 16, 2014

LOL. I'm a Deere hater because I dare criticize the super store,an organic hater because I'm tired of being accused of trying to poison people. Now what,I'm an Allis hater because I bought something with the Allis name on it.
I just can't win can I?

IHRedRules · May 16, 2014

Well,you got a nice mower, but if you would have waited a bit, you could have had an oliver 105, cockshutt 105, or both. Sykora Auctions have the Curtiss Collection up in Blanchard on June 12th, where those fine old mowers will sell.

Bob · May 16, 2014

I dunno, Briggs and Scrapiron prolly thinks you're SWELL!

(BW, this is all in good FUN, don't be hate'in me for the 'lil jab in the eye!)

Bob · May 16, 2014

BTW, "Simplicity" now = "Briggs and Scrapiron".

rrlund · May 16, 2014

Ya,I saw that yesterday. Didn't appear to have a deck on it though did it?

rrlund · May 16, 2014

Oh I know. That's exactly why I had to buy this one though instead of the orange one that said Simplicity on it. I traded that 1020 Deere off for a David Brown built Oliver before I got a chance to paint it Oliver green and put Fiat/Oliver decals on it. I had to have something else to tweak people who take life way too serious.

IHRedRules · May 16, 2014

No, the pics of it are without a deck unfortunately.

Bob · May 16, 2014

I'm a DEERE guy, but multitractoral!

We won't tell anyone I recently bought some goofy little FWA David Brown re-badged as a CIH.

SSSSHHHH! OK?

rrlund · May 16, 2014

I'd like to make it up to that sale he's having the next day too. There's a Super 77,Super 88,1650 and two 1850s on that one,along with an Allis 6080 FWA,a Fiat 680 FWA and a Shepard SD-3.

rrlund · May 16, 2014

I won't tell on you,but I'm pretty proud of my David Brown rebadged as an Oliver. If somebody else wants to claim these Olivers were all American,I can prove them wrong. I've got one made in England and one made in France.

High Octane · May 16, 2014

i still like my 6211 n love the 4211 simplicitys i got.

lenray · May 16, 2014

I am 2 miles from those OLIVERS--leroy storrs. Big dunmpsters have been there hauling off tons of metal.
Leroy never married--worked hard all the time. Dick Fullerton, the Oliver dealer in Clare years ago, told me that Leroy would come in and buy a new Oliver and would dig in his pockets and pull out the cash to pay on the spot..........

ASEguy · May 17, 2014

I bought this one in Tennessee. Paid $200.00 for it. Stripped it to bare metal, rebuilt the engine and sent the pic to the original owner.

Rich Iowa · May 17, 2014

You could change the decal to CASE and then you could tell people you bought a new Black Knight as well!

Traditional Farmer · May 17, 2014

The Ford and Jacobsen decks are the same except for color.

rrlund · May 17, 2014

Make that England and Italy. France,Fiat,they both start with F,easy mistake to make.

T in NE · May 18, 2014

Nothing wrong with that, other than the "MTD" part.
What's that mean, "made to decay (rapidly)"?

Will Herring · May 18, 2014

Dang, looks pretty nice. I'd probably buy one if it had a Honda motor instead of a B&S.

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