USDA Solicites bids for.......

A May 7th solicitation by the U.S. Department of Agriculture seeks "the commercial acquisition of submachine guns [in] .40 Cal. S&W."

According to the solicitation, the Dept. of Agriculture wants the guns to have an "ambidextrous safety, semiautomatic or 2 round [bursts] trigger group, Tritium night sights front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore group) and scope (top rear), stock collapsible or folding," and a "30 rd. capacity" magazine.

They also want the submachine guns to have a "sling," be "lightweight," and have an "oversized trigger guard for gloved operation."

The solicitation directs "all responsible and/or interested sources...[to] submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone." Companies that submit information in a "timely" fashion "shall be considered by the agency for contact to determine weapon suitability."



http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/14/Dept-Of-Agriculture-Orders-Submachine-Guns-With-30-Round-Magazines




Time to buy more ammo.

They need those to deal with the people that won't let the USDA inspectors on their property to inspect whatever it is that they want to inspect.

Department of education also is looking for guns, saw a news article talking about their "swat" team, give me a break.

IF what you say is true, much better to be a part of the underground. In France, in WWII, my uncle, a pilot, was saved by the underground and married a French girl. They were together until he passed ten years ago. Nowadays the 'underground' would be seen as 'terrorists'. Thanks, Mr. Bush, you Son-of-a- Mule!

A USDA inspector stoped at my farm 8 years ago when I started a dairy farm. They insisted to count all animals and record it. Male, female, ages, species, number...... Down to the two goats I had wandering around. Looking back, it's none of thier business, almost a violation in a way, and you can put me in the group that won't let them inspect me like that again. And why is it you demonize the farmer not wanting the government on his property without his permission?? Are you content being a sheep and doing what your told because they tell you to regardless of why?

Following the trends for the last 10 years or so, i have become one of those people that would be considered a prepper, I would rather have and not need, than need and not have. I started "stockpiling" when it was not yet cool, and was still much cheaper. When the time comes, those of us who farm will be the only ones that will be able to feed our families, and we will also be the target of those too lazy to have done so, and therefore the stockpiles for our own defense will be needed to keep not only criminals away, but also our own government wanting to take what we have.

More BS propaganda.

It really makes you wonder, what will it be like further down the line, like way further. Is this some de-sensitization period? am I just paranoid or why is it that the citizens are being targeted for gun control ie, NY safe act, and government agencies, maybe law enforcement are further or improving their armament while we are being further restricted?

The thing that stands out in my mind is whether or not the wheels are turning, somewhere behind the scenes, while the citizens are pacified, until the day comes, where reality sets in and we the people have a serious problem on our hands, sure looks like it would be better to have a job working for the government, than it does for the private sector, at least you can have any weapons you desire LOL !!

No need to escalate the content here, I don't subscribe to the conspiracy mentality for the most part, have an awareness, not ignorant, just saying is all, where the heck is all this headed ?

I'm more worried about getting things planted at the moment and my silly old tractor which needs repair+completing the processing of next winters firewood, and most importantly landing this job I have an interview for tomorrow, which is an incredible opportunity for me at this juncture, given the pay, job description and the location, I'll finally be able to "get me a better tractor" and not just squeak by, like its been for years now, nailed the phone screen interview, recruiter said the hiring manager called him direct about me after..... says I have an excellent chance here, got my fingers crossed and my hopes up !!!

More good news locally walmart has .22 short in stock !!!!! Well I'll be dipped in ..... LOL ! Just when you think things are getting better, you read the above LOL !

First thing that came to mind is the bureau of land management and Mr. Bundy out there, is this related ya think ?

Oh well, I have to go and buy a fancy suit so I look the part, and close this deal tomorrow, there goes my tractor steering box funds, LOL, but the return will be ten fold if it goes my way and I think it will.

(quoted from post at 07:33:29 05/15/14) More BS propaganda.

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Meaning what exactly? The USDA, USD of Ed, FEMA and a whole lot of other non-police agencies have military style assault teams. That's not propaganda, that's fact. Don't you ever wonder why? Don't you ever wonder what it is they plan to do that requires disarming the people of meeting them with overwhelming force? What police powers does the Dept of Ed need? FEMA?

(quoted from post at 06:42:50 05/15/14)

Thanks, Mr. Bush, you Son-of-a- Mule!

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Uh, Bush hasn't been in office for quite some time.

Propaganda for whom?

The IRS is also buying weapons


In 2010, the Federal Business Opportunities website posted an IRS request for a quote on the price of shotguns for the agency’s Criminal Investigation Division.

The site sought a quote for 60 Remington Model 870 Police 12-gauge pump-action shotguns, the only weapons authorized for IRS duty.

The IRS Criminal Division includes roughly 2,700 special agents who are required to carry a firearm.

According to the basic qualifications for a position as an IRS special agent for the criminal division, “applicants must carry and use a firearm.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/irs-agents-carrying-shotguns-not-a-big-deal/#JcTD6iZOD8lBBZic.99




Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) has raised some eyebrows on Capitol Hill this morning, claiming that he saw IRS agents training with AR-15 rifles.


Martha MacCallum discussed Duncan's discovery with Monica Crowley and Doug Schoen, noting that no IRS enforcement agent has ever been killed in the line of duty. But she did point out that they've had use their weapons eight times, and accidentally fired a weapon on 11 occasions.

Might also want to think about getting a better rifle for when the time comes.

I have a freind who works as a federal inspector. He works in chicago as a glorified security cop for the federal buildings up there. He is paid from funds of the USDA. He scratches his head as to why he is paid by the USDA but I would guess that is where those weapons are going.

Lots of government office buildings now noted as 'soft' targets, need to be protected. In times passed the advertisement, request for proposals went to a few suppliers, now the adds apparently run into a government transparency rule and become posted in many news media. As for the tech details? the H&K MP5/G3/C93-94 variants in 9mm have most or all of the features asked for, Smith And Wesson M76 pattern has many of them also. The main change is the .40 caliber instead of 9mm chambering-- many 'Civilian' Police and government security agencies are now using .40 pistols in stead of 9mm or .45 - SO, need to get compatible submachine guns using same ammo as the issue pistol. Likely the agency has had some H&K in 9mm getting old, worn out barrels, second rebuild after prior service and the older 'Army issue' cheap to get models don't exist in .40 cal and now it's time to advertise. Some sherrif's depts couple years back had a little fun time- they found out the old Thompson .45s they'd had in racks for 50 years or more were worth $3000.00 on civilian market and a Army surplus M16A2 was available for $99.00 from military getting M4s. Go the cheap replacement route, sell the old grandfathered Thompsons(sometimes one to deputy or the Sheriff) and balance budget plus get a car body piercer for the patrol car that needs it on occasion. Then the ammo situation with the 1911 backups got confused, the new .40 became popular with double stack mags and the old .357 revolvers became secondary issue or 'reserve' or no longer service issue but secondary personal issue. Lots of fun in the ammo market lately - military has 9mm NATO standard and the special ops people are using the .45 pistols and variations of the H&K with suppressers for ammo compatibility- or some old M3s in service since Korea.

Just out of shear curiosity.....How many months of food do you have stored up?
NO, I am not going to come and seek you out. I have a friend that is a prepper, has been for 3 years now. He has food, but not more than 6 months worth. He has a 1/2 acre that he grows, beans/tomatoes, chickens too for the eggs. He has 2 freezers full of Venison/beef/chicken.

1130LEO writes"... therefore the stockpiles for our own defense will be needed to keep not only criminals away, but also our own government wanting to take what we have."

Do you honestly, truly believe that you COULD keep the government away?

Seems like maybe it was under Bill Clinton ... or possibly Carter...that the movement started for the government to come get our guns...and NOW external_link surely is gonna roll down our driveway and just "take what we have." (including guns and...???).

All it takes is God, Guns and Gays to get folk stirred up around here.

(shaking my head in disbelief at the absurdity of it all)
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Probably gonna get this one poofed!!

Wouldn't an IRS agent carrying a pump shotgun kind of stand out in a crowd?

I have approximately enough food for 2 years, rotation is the hardest part. As for would I be successful keeping them out, maybe not, but I would rather fail than to comply, this is a free country and our forefathers died to make it so...

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2 yrs. that is impressive.
I have 1 closet full of stuff. (all canned goods)
I just look for sales, canned fruit, canned chicken, pasta, other long life shelf items.
I have 6 weeks worth of food if the crap hit the fan. I would need to get 2 more chest freezers if I was gonna be serious about being a prepper. But in the grand scheme of things if the electricity went out for a month then being able to run 2 freezers and a fridge would be real tough. And storing gasoline for a gen set, and so on.

How can someone be some clueless. It is a published bid. Duh!! Yea probably propaganda.

The ignorance of some people who choose to stick their
head in the sand and say "yes Massa " is amazing. The
evidence is published and verifiable but the Kenyan in the
White House will save us all. Lol right

(quoted from post at 12:11:24 05/15/14) Lots of government office buildings now noted as 'soft' targets, need to be protected. In times passed the advertisement, request for proposals went to a few suppliers, now the adds apparently run into a government transparency rule and become posted in many news media. As for the tech details? the H&K MP5/G3/C93-94 variants in 9mm have most or all of the features asked for, Smith And Wesson M76 pattern has many of them also. The main change is the .40 caliber instead of 9mm chambering-- many 'Civilian' Police and government security agencies are now using .40 pistols in stead of 9mm or .45 - SO, need to get compatible submachine guns using same ammo as the issue pistol. Likely the agency has had some H&K in 9mm getting old, worn out barrels, second rebuild after prior service and the older 'Army issue' cheap to get models don't exist in .40 cal and now it's time to advertise. Some sherrif's depts couple years back had a little fun time- they found out the old Thompson .45s they'd had in racks for 50 years or more were worth $3000.00 on civilian market and a Army surplus M16A2 was available for $99.00 from military getting M4s. Go the cheap replacement route, sell the old grandfathered Thompsons(sometimes one to deputy or the Sheriff) and balance budget plus get a car body piercer for the patrol car that needs it on occasion. Then the ammo situation with the 1911 backups got confused, the new .40 became popular with double stack mags and the old .357 revolvers became secondary issue or 'reserve' or no longer service issue but secondary personal issue. Lots of fun in the ammo market lately - military has 9mm NATO standard and the special ops people are using the .45 pistols and variations of the H&K with suppressers for ammo compatibility- or some old M3s in service since Korea.

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While it's true about the "soft targets", that still fails to justify full auto or burst weapons for me- and I was standing at Ground Zero by 11AM on 9/12/01. I get the idea. But the nation is full of "soft targets" and it's only the gov't soft targets that can buy the auto weapons without a huge amount of paperwork and super secret special permission. Joe Average can apply for his Class 3 license but if he puts down on paper he wants them for personal protection...he might just get denied. Same for pistol permits in my state, put down self defense on the application for a permit (not that you should have to justify your reasons for wanting one) and you'll likely get denied. Why is it that it's okay for the gov't to protect itself, but not the average person? Truth is Joe Average is just as likely to need a gun as Norman the IRS clerk.

The question is so fundamental and yet it's so easily overlooked!

$3000 for a papered Thompson??? Maybe in 1990... The last decent one I saw sell first hand was well over 20K. They are often listed for sale at a dealer for $40-50K.

Unless the "crowd" is twenty other agents similarly armed.