Sad accident

Don-Wi

Well-known Member
I was going to my chiropractor today, and there was an acident right infront of his office, Pedestrian VS. Semi tractor. I rolled through probably a minute or so after it happened, there weren't any EMT's there yet, and a guy was on the phone and feeling for a pulse.

My chiro went over to see if he could help and he was breathing but unconsious at that time (and rubber neckers causing more wrecks) but was pronounced dead at the hospital.

http://fox11online.com/2014/05/12/pedestrian-hit-and-killed-by-semi-in-appleton/

Not sure exactly how it happened, but I sure feel bad for the trucker.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
Especially if busy texting or lighting up a cig. What are the details? Probably never be known.
 

Yeah there does seem to be a prejudice that the trucker is innocent. If it was his fault he deserves to suffer at least mental anguish.
 
My Dad had an accident probably 45 years ago in a UPS truck, a mentally challenged adult (22
years old) came racing out of a blind driveway on a bike, hit the side of his truck and was
killed. Dad told me that if it had been a kid he'd probably have to stop driving, entirely,
it still tore him up a little every time he looked at that corner of the truck and could see
the repair work and remembered why it was there. Police felt he wasn't at fault and didn't
even write a ticket, UPS did call it a chargeable accident.
 
10-4. Traumatic experiences do come back.

Fifty five years ago, I came within a hair of going overboard off the flight deck of an aircraft carrier at 10:00 at night. Circumstances were such that I probably wouldn't have been missed for a half hour or so.

About twenty years ago, that started coming back to me every once in a while. Why the long gap when I never thought of it, I don't know.
 
(quoted from post at 02:06:51 05/13/14)
Yeah there does seem to be a prejudice that the trucker is innocent. If it was his fault he deserves to suffer at least mental anguish.
Yep, Innocent until proven guilty.
 
(quoted from post at 02:09:20 05/13/14) you would not believe how many times that will replay in your mind trust me I know
One of my customers was a railroad engineer. One night a mentally handicapped man walked onto the tracks as the train approached . My customer did all he could possibly have done. The train hit and killed the man. My customer had trouble sleeping after that. He said every time he closed his eyes he'd envision the train hitting the guy.
 
23 years ago I was about 12 feet from a man on a bicycle that went under the front of a moving bus and was crushed. Now, yes 23 years later, I can still see the look of horror on his face as he disappeared. I did not sleep a wink that night.
 
(quoted from post at 22:38:23 05/12/14)
(quoted from post at 02:06:51 05/13/14)
Yeah there does seem to be a prejudice that the trucker is innocent. If it was his fault he deserves to suffer at least mental anguish.
Yep, Innocent until proven guilty.

I just try and withhold judgment until all the facts are known.
Yes if he is innocent it is horrible for him, If guilty he deserves the horror. That is all I am saying.
 
I don't know too much, but the trucker wasn't arrested at the time so for now, I'm thinking the police found no fault. I know trucks don't stop on a dime so there wasn't much a guy could have done. It's a very busy road, espescially at that time of day. Sometimes takes me 2-3 minutes for a gap to pull into the chiro's parking lot.

Donovan from Wisconsin
 
years ago when i was in my early 20's i went over to westport, mo. to meet a friend and hang out. public parking was a block of the main street, so i walked there, crossed the street that was blocked off for the partyers, went into a bar, got a drink, walked back out and just that fast someone ran through the blockade and ran over and killed a plain clothes cop, young guy, maybe 30 something. a guy walked up to him and checked his pulse and said he was dead but you could already tell. really freaked me out for 2 reasons, the second was if i had been 2 minutes later it would have been me.
 
Just this afternoon, I was in the work bigrig, stopped at a traffic light. A disheveled woman was crossing in the crosswalk. She stopped directly in front of me, I couldn't see her. I knew she was there so I waited till she slowly shuffled on across the street. I hate to think about what would have happened if I hadn't seen her go in front of me.
Tim in OR
 
My brother inlaw a few years back with his semi clobbered a caddy that ran a red light,killing an elderly couple.Still bothers him to this day.Few months after accident he quit interstate trucking.Scott
 
Drove for the amish remember that little baby crawled
under drivers van and got killed still think about it .
Also remember cousin reaching into baler to pull twine out
still gives me the nervous feeling when i see people do that.
 
I haven"t seen very many accidents. There have been however
lots of incidents where somebody either. Did something they
should not have or didn"t do something they should have.
 
About 50 years ago, was stopped at a rail crossing enjoying the beautiful day while riding my motorcycle; gates were down and train was highballing. Suddenly engineer laid on whistle and locked brakes. I looked away from train and saw young boy on bicycle approaching rails from far side on sidewalk, he never stopped, rode in front of train, and was struck and killed. Still recall the look on the little boy's face as he stared at the engine as he was hit. Have seen several fatalities since, but that one sticks.
 
(quoted from post at 22:15:48 05/12/14) My Dad had an accident probably 45 years ago in a UPS truck, a mentally challenged adult (22
years old) came racing out of a blind driveway on a bike, hit the side of his truck and was
killed. Dad told me that if it had been a kid he'd probably have to stop driving, entirely,
it still tore him up a little every time he looked at that corner of the truck and could see
the repair work and remembered why it was there. Police felt he wasn't at fault and didn't
even write a ticket, UPS did call it a chargeable accident.
Same thing happened to me about 20 yrs ago. A 12 yr old girl rode her bike out of a driveway right in front of my car. I slammed on my brakes but she had turned the bike and fell off towards my car as my car slid over her. I never did hit the bike. She was pinned under the engine. Neighbors jacked up the car and I pulled her out. She had a broken arm. Cops said I was 0% at fault and she was 100%. She did get a bad burn on her back from the oil pan. Parents sued me and the builder of a house on the street and a brick company that had delivered bricks just behind the curb (said the bricks blocked my view of the girl. Never mind she rode directly into the path of my car). All 3 insurance companies settled. I wanted to go to court but the insurance company said no, it cost them $20k, much cheaper than fighting it in Court. Builder and Brick company insurers took the biggest hit. All total parents got a couple hundred grand. Afterward, they bragged how their kids college education was now funded. Initially I felt real bad until the lawsuit showed up. Don't ask me what I think now.
 
(quoted from post at 07:53:09 05/13/14) Another tender hearted comment from bd..........

Glenn F.

Co-worker was driving by a park. 10yr old boy ran out chasing a ball and never looked. Killed the boy instantly with the 4x4 ranger. Co-worker was never right after that. Took the summer off work to putter at the cottage. He got worse after his kids reached 10yrs. Started drinking too much and sniffing some hard stuff. Lost his marriage . He quit working on the tools and rapidly worked his way up the ranks at work. Everybody used to call him Smiley Johnston . Nobody has called him that for years since.
Kids parents did not blame smiley and actually went to bat for him in the police report. The kid would not listen to his parents and was known to just run anywhere or do anything without looking or thought.
 

I've seen and investigated thousands of accidents. In most cases there's at least some fault on both parties involved if there are 2 or more vehicles involved. But sometimes, say 25%, it's clearly the fault of one person, outside of parking lot dings and the like. It's always sad when there's an injury and worse for all when there's a death.
 
Family members of the deceased indicated that the man killed
had intentionally stepped in front of the semi. They have
posted comments on various news reports that neither the
semi driver nor speed were responsible for this death. I doubt
the name will be released except in the local obits due to the
sensitivity of possible suicide. I came upon the accident
shortly after it occured and have been following the story
online. It's such a tragedy for everyone but, I hope the driver
will find peace through it all.
 

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