OT: Roundup Ready sweet corn

LonM · May 8, 2014

I would like to plant some of this for the garden this year (Monsanto's Obsession II looks good), but cannot find anyone locally that handles it. Some of the seed suppliers have it, but it is in 25# bags, and that makes it prohibitively expensive for a family-sized garden. Does anyone know where I can but just a few pounds of it? Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
Lon

teddy52food · May 8, 2014

I hope you don't plan on eating it.

tomNE · May 8, 2014

the stuff I had was the best sweet corn I've ever eaten! no worm holes and beautiful large ears. around here; some dealers buy one bag and then divide it up into freezer bags. check with larger seed suppliers!

504 · May 8, 2014

Call a Seed Corn Dealer in your area,they have smaller amounts.(Might even get it for free)

1130Leo · May 8, 2014

Teddy, i was thinking the same thing, also the reason I try to avoid all the GMO's...

wilamayb · May 8, 2014

My local farmers co-op sells it in small quantities under the company name of "seed-way"

wilamayb · May 8, 2014

I've eaten a bunch of it and am alive and healthy to tell about it.

Name one person that you have ever met that has an ailment caused by a GMO. I'm not talking about something you read online written by a bunch of uneducated yuppies. I'm talking about real life truth.

Levi · May 8, 2014

I had a buddy tell me the people that plant it around him don't have trouble with raccoons eating it I don't know what to think of gmo but it the coons won't touch it it makes you wonder

jennifer408 · May 8, 2014

(quoted from post at 20:18:58 05/08/14) I've eaten a bunch of it and am alive and healthy to tell about it.

Name one person that you have ever met that has an ailment caused by a GMO. I'm not talking about something you read online written by a bunch of uneducated yuppies. I'm talking about real life truth.

oh, good, you get to be our guinea pig !!!

WGM · May 9, 2014

I think your buddy as a liar. Raccoons around here love all sweet corn including RR. Typical left wing smear.

Kent Petersen · May 9, 2014

Hoe many of you plant and eat Hybrid Tomato’s they are GMO

glennster · May 9, 2014

We planted obsession II the past couple years and have it in the ground this year too. Excellent producer, very sweet with a nice ear. The coons and deer go after it with no problems. We plant it in the headlands with field corn.

IaGary · May 9, 2014

Unless you are eating sweet corn that still produces the ear at the top of the stalk where the tassels are now you are eating GMO corn.

Plants even GMO on there own to adapt to survive.

That gene to make RR resistant plants came from another plant that was naturally resistant to Roundup.

Gary

IH2444 · May 9, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:25:22 05/09/14) Unless you are eating sweet corn that still produces the ear at the top of the stalk where the tassels are now you are eating GMO corn.

Plants even GMO on there own to adapt to survive.

That gene to make RR resistant plants came from another plant that was naturally resistant to Roundup.

Gary

Cross pollenated plants are NOT GMO.

IH2444 · May 9, 2014

(quoted from post at 06:34:46 05/09/14) Hoe many of you plant and eat Hybrid Tomato’s they are GMO

You might want to actually study how GMO's are created vs hybrids.

Massey farmer · May 9, 2014

It's too bad that isn't even close to being true because I would plant a ton of that if it helped keeping animals out. Like they say, if you can't fight them with facts, baffle them with bull....!

cumminspuller · May 9, 2014

The company I work for has sold a bunch of it this year. Obsession II is the RR version that we stick with. What we have been selling are 25k count bags. Enough to plant one acre roughly. It is a 5-8lb bag. Runs around $385. Everyone that plants it around here loves it and has planted more this year than ever.

paul · May 9, 2014

And people back in the 40s and 50s had the same adverse
reactions to hybreds.

Change is difficult for some people.

Paul

Dean Olson · May 9, 2014

I have family that farms upwards of 2000 acres of corn and soybeans in Iowa. We've been eating GMO RR corn since it came out. Fed it to the hogs,chickens and cattle that went into the freezer. I'm in my 50's and have relatives well into their 70's,80's, and my Grandmother is 96.

No health issues that can be attributed the what we eat. OK, we DO have some obesity problems. But when you have such good fresh food to eat its hard not to over eat.

I suspect that if GMO RR was an issue we'd have seen some facts.

1130Leo · May 9, 2014

It's not change that is the problem, hybrids are plants that are bred, which is still at least natural, the GMO's are not natural at all, look at the facts, when did they start putting GMO's in the field, and when did the major increase in cancer show up.... There is a link, like it or nor. Monsanto owns the government and everyone else that believes they are doing this for your good. Sorry, I am not a abundant, nor am i a sheep, Monsanto and the GMO's are pure evil, it may look like corn, but your body does not see it that way. All the sudden Fibromyalgia, gluten problems, etc... They are from something, it is all the no longer natural food that is causing it.

1130Leo · May 9, 2014

William, hopefully you are lucky, but you are definitely unwilling to listen to reality, GMO's are killing people, why else would Europe and now even China be willing to ban them and not allow imports???? Wake up, putting toxins directly on live plants that absorb it, then you eat the fruit willingly??? May as well go grab a scorpion in the desert as their toxin must not be fatal either right?

Ozlander · May 9, 2014

(quoted from post at 07:32:17 05/09/14) William, hopefully you are lucky, but you are definitely unwilling to listen to reality, GMO's are killing people, why else would Europe and now even China be willing to ban them and not allow imports???? Wake up, putting toxins directly on live plants that absorb it, then you eat the fruit willingly??? May as well go grab a scorpion in the desert as their toxin must not be fatal either right?

Leo, Tell us what you really think.

Fred Werring · May 9, 2014

Well, Lon, if you or anybody else should happen to find an online source that will sell small amounts, let me know. Wouldn't mind trying some.

Any of the varieties close to Silver Queen?...still my favorite, I just dont like a lot of the newer super sweets.

Thanks

Fred

oldtanker · May 9, 2014

(quoted from post at 11:19:16 05/09/14) Well, Lon, if you or anybody else should happen to find an online source that will sell small amounts, let me know. Wouldn't mind trying some.

Any of the varieties close to Silver Queen?...still my favorite, I just dont like a lot of the newer super sweets.

Thanks

Fred

I'm completely neutral here.

The thing with GMO's is it's going to take 20-30 years of human consumption, eating it regularly, to know if it's going to have any long term affect. Look at the number of old farmers and their families who had cancer in disproportionate numbers whit the original types of pesticides and herbicides. They were not drinking, eating or bathing in it. But they were around it enough to get enough in their systems to cause problems 20 years or more down the road. One side the studies are paid for by Monsanto and the other side is done by the anti's. So who knows what's right. I feed grandkids often. Sorry until more is known no GMO's consumed here. Even by my livestock. I don't trust companies to put out safe products when there is a lot of money to be made. It's called greed. Kinda like a farmer claiming that something he grows is completely safe when he/she doesn't know and all he's doing is chasing bigger profit margins.

OK you Pro GMO growers, you yell about people lying about GMO's so set the example, you stop lying too. Hybrids are not in any sense GMO's as they are merely cross pollinated, not altered with foreign matter from a completely different source.

Rick

wilamayb · May 9, 2014

Fred, I'm the only white variety offered would be called "Devotion". It does carry the SS2 gene which would likely be too sweet for your taste.

Most local farmers CO-OP's sell all of these hybrids in small quantities under the "seed-way" brand. Just ask and they can order them for you.

wilamayb · May 9, 2014

Like I said earlier, name one person that you know who has had a health issue related to the consumption of GMO food or fiber. You cant because there isn't anyone. Not a single illness has been linked to GMO's by any credible source. Allegations have been made by Doctors who subscribe to the abundant agenda holistically, but they have no real credible evidence.

China and Europe wont accept GMO's for political reasons. That's the "reality". If you had been raised in a society in which your government crammed the thought that tomatoes were bad for your health, you would be reluctant as a consumer to eat any.

jennifer408 · May 9, 2014

I'm completely neutral here.

The thing with GMO's is it's going to take 20-30 years of human consumption, eating it regularly, to know if it's going to have any long term affect. Look at the number of old farmers and their families who had cancer in disproportionate numbers whit the original types of pesticides and herbicides. They were not drinking, eating or bathing in it. But they were around it enough to get enough in their systems to cause problems 20 years or more down the road. One side the studies are paid for by Monsanto and the other side is done by the anti's. So who knows what's right. I feed grandkids often. Sorry until more is known no GMO's consumed here. Even by my livestock. I don't trust companies to put out safe products when there is a lot of money to be made. It's called greed. Kinda like a farmer claiming that something he grows is completely safe when he/she doesn't know and all he's doing is chasing bigger profit margins.

OK you Pro GMO growers, you yell about people lying about GMO's so set the example, you stop lying too. Hybrids are not in any sense GMO's as they are merely cross pollinated, not altered with foreign matter from a completely different source.

Rick[/quote]

thank you.

rrlund · May 9, 2014

If you have corn on your plate,and peas on your plate and eat them both in the same mouthful,how is that less dangerous than if you genetically combine them in to one plant and eat that new plant?

teddy52food · May 9, 2014

Because you have f----- up mother nature.

LonM · May 9, 2014

Thank You all for your input. If I find a source for small quantities I will re-post for those who requested it. I am not very concerned about eating genetically modified plants, but I do think that all the seed treatments that are put on our seed nowadays are harmful to our health. As for the Roundup-Ready technology: by itself, I think it is beneficial. Any conventional corn we have raised in years past was sprayed with Atrazine, Accent, Steadfast, or other chemicals that I consider to be much for harmful than Glyphosate. Again, the seed treatments are deadly and will increase one's risk for cancer, but splicing genetic material so that farmers can reduce their chemical usage has some merit. In my opinion, the Chinese and Europeans play the GMO card mostly for trade negotiating purposes.
Thanks again,
Lon

jm. · May 9, 2014

Dean I am 72, Wife,s father 96 and like you have been eating it as long as it has been out. I love these folks that are anti GMO but only farm a few acres. Like to see some of them farm thousands of acres without the roundup ready products.

2 Old 2 care · May 11, 2014

I don't have the time to go into how many ways you're wrong about every assertion you're making. Rise in cancer is due to increased REPORTING as much as anything. But long and short of it cancer rates increased several decades before plant genome was discovered, much less when GMO's hit the fields. I really do feel sorry for people like you that are so easily manipulated by the conspiracy theorist's of the world. Life must be awful being led around by the nose by people who only want to create fear.

2 Old 2 care · May 11, 2014

While you're at it, why don't you comment on how the average life expectancy in the US has risen dramatically during the "GMO years". If you can make a bogus "link" to all the negatives you want, why not link a few (million) of the POSITIVES that have occured? Oh wait! I know! That wasn't printed in the pages of your Mother Earth News in the "How to be a sheeple" section.

1948CaseVAI · May 11, 2014

(quoted from post at 10:32:17 05/09/14) ... Wake up, putting toxins directly on live plants that absorb it, then you eat the fruit willingly??? ...

You have opened another issue, so what is your main pinch point? Is it the GMO corn or is it the fact that the 'toxins' (roundup) have been sprayed on the corn and absorbed? Where is any evidence that roundup on/in corn is any more dangerous than any common pesticide/herbicide sprayed on standard corn? If you want to argue in favor of chemical-free crops that is fine, but it sounds like you are saying that roundup is more dangerous to you than other chemicals, and that will require evidence.

If you have real evidence of human damage I am interested, but if you only have fear of the unknown, that doesn't count.

2 Old 2 care · May 11, 2014

So why do you resort to telling lies? China has NOT banned GMO's. They stopped 3 shipments of corn (which happen to be GMO's) because they paid too much. They found GMO's from Brazil and Argentina that were cheaper.

Non GMO corn can (and does) use the same pesticides as GMO's. Even "organic" is using "BT" only dumping it on the plant rather than breeding it into the plant.

Cite the very first case where a GMO has caused harm to a human....You CANNOT because IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. Just lies, innuendo, and rumors. You cannot cite the very first shred of TRUTH because that doesn't support your lies.

It's SO obvious you don't have a flipping CLUE what you're talking about.

2 Old 2 care · May 11, 2014

and yet ANOTHER one who doesn't know the first thing about which he speaks.....^^^^^^^^^^^

IH2444 · May 12, 2014

(quoted from post at 21:32:22 05/09/14) Dean I am 72, Wife,s father 96 and like you have been eating it as long as it has been out. I love these folks that are anti GMO but only farm a few acres. Like to see some of them farm thousands of acres without the roundup ready products.

Umm we (farmers)used to farm thousands of acres of corn before roundup even existed.

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