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Lou from Wi.

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Starting this month,(same as last month) prices are skyrocketed on beef. Sure as he ll tired of pork,opening fishing season must have raised the price of beef as an example, a small steak costs $13.00, the size you could cover with a playing card,and tougher than a boot. And how do I know it's tougher than a boot? bought a small one just like it 3 months ago could have sewn it on the bottom of my shoes and walked across the U.S. showing no signs of wear. I can almost bet the beef farmers are taking a heck of a beating for on the hoof prices.

Several years back, I bought a whole side of hanging beef, we cut and wrapped it for the winter, and when we decided on a steak, it tasted like sorghum molasses, threw the whole thing out for the bear or wolves, even our dog wouldn't eat it, what a heck of a waste. There was no way to tell it was sorghum fed by smelling it as it was hanging,nice big side. I can't believe the prices. It's soup,chili and various sandwiches for this month,cause the meat will lay in the freezers and rot.Supermarkets can take the beating now,and have a lot of it to grind up for hamburger. Well I'm done with the rant. Hope you beef farmers aren't requiring me to support these prices.People are just passing by the meat section except for hamburger, and I'm one. Might have to try my hand at rustling some beef if I can get on a horse.lol.The neighbor a few miles away has some nice looking buffalo in a field,have the -06 sighted in and awaiting night when I'm meat hungry.lol.
Regards meat hungry,
LOU
 
We buy a half a beef from our neighbor I can look out our window and see our meat growing. our steaks will melt in your mouth, hamburgers to die for. Just have to know how the beef were raised. All black face Angus.
 
What do you mean? We are all cattle farmers and make hay with our TRACTORS to feed cows. Are your wages too high?
 
It will pass. I'd bet it won't last as long as the rock bottom low prices we've had for years on beef. Wasn't worth raising around here even on free grass in summer.
 
Just bought a bunch of sirloin steak at the local small town market.$4.99 a pound on sale. Affliliated Foods is the supplier. Had sirloin in a couple steakhouses in Rapid City Easter weekend but this is much better. Only trouble was, they only had about $50 worth left. Normally $6.99 a pound in E SD. Beef, it's whats for dinner. No better buy!
 
Not sure where you priced the $13 dollar small steak at. If at the store, that was to high. If at a resteraunt, I wouldn't eat there again if it was that tuff a steak. On the hoof prices are high too. Beef cattle farmers are seeing good money on cattle right now. The number of cattle across the country is down. That is why consumers are seeing higher prices right now. Sorry about your bad experience on buying the bad half a few years back. Kinda got yourself to blame on that one. If it was the guys fault that you bought it from, fine but its still kinda your fault for dealing with someone like that. No need to be mad at anyone else on that one. Bottom line is the prices do reflect a shortage and the farmers are seeing a few extra dollars out of this one which don't happen alot. As far as I'm concerned, you can either pay a little extra for a good steak, or take your rant back to the soup bowl, because you clearly didn't research this one out.
 
I remember a bloopers show that the newsman said 2 cows got out...named "Black" and "Gus"... the other newsman tried not to laugh and said I think they mean black angus. The first guy said "well...maybe we will have to check into that"
 
If ya talking to Me then I'm not a Cattle farmer, Not that there anything wrong with being one. I'm just not into critters. And I use My tractor to pull things and hog brush. Plus I get paid a lot more than I'm worth.
 
Buying beef is still a much better value than hunting, drinking, or smoking. A lot of cattle producers are elated to finally get a good paycheck after years of high feed costs and other inputs. Maybe someday all of us cow men will get to go back to working for peanuts so you can get some relief.
 
Tired of pork, think a $13 steak is too tough for you and threw out a whole side of beef 'cause it didn't taste the way you wanted? Sounds to me like you've never been hungry.

Now as to the rise in prices, do you remember the drought of 2012? Hay crops nationwide failed. Corn rose past $7 /bu. and many cattlemen had to sell entire herds or let them starve. Sad thing about cattle raising is that once you jump out, it's next to impossible to jump back in. Now 2 years later, the herd population is as lower than it's been since WWII. So the cattlemen that survived can get a better price. Call it free-market or call it supply and demand. Bottom line is, there's fewer cattle now, so beef prices will go up.
There's an old saying, "Never complain about farmers when your belly is full."

Done with MY rant- for now.
 
Dan T in MO,
To make this short and sweet. No I don't like eating beef that tastes like it was marinaded in sorghum for months at a time.Should tell you something if even our dog wouldn't touch it. If you prefer to eat meat that tastes that way, more power to you.
Since I'm sure I've lived a harder life than you,Yes I know what hunger is, and I don't mean I am just hungry for my next meal, I mean I know what it's like to be hungry for days at a time.See I didn't have a silver spoon born in my mouth,like some.

By the way I guess you missed the point where I said
" I can almost bet the beef farmers are taking a heck of a beating for on the hoof prices."

In other words I'm sure the beef farmers aren't getting the price per pound that the middleman and grocery store owners are asking for beef.

So in further stating a point, quit adding your personal beliefs to what I typed.I never said it's the beef farmers that are causing the problem.
LOU
 
LonM,
What I said was"I can almost bet the beef farmers are taking a heck of a beating for on the hoof prices."meaning the beef farmers aren't getting paid what it cost us consumers at the store.Read what is written,not what you assume.
Since I never badmouthed cowmen, maybe you shouldn't try to be such an hypocrit about what I said.
LOU
 
redforlife,
It was at a local grocery store.

Just to be fair I'll take your assumptions as they come in your response. You said," Sorry about your bad experience on buying the bad half a few years back. Kinda got yourself to blame on that one."
Since I bought this side of beef from a reputable( we've bought for a couple of years prior) butcher/slaughter house. Unless you expect me to go there with frying skillet/stove in hand to taste test the beef,how do you expect it to be my fault. Unless you think I shouldn't buy beef from a butcher who deals with beef farmers?


"Beef cattle farmers are seeing good money on cattle right now. The number of cattle across the country is down."

I'm sure beef farmers aren't getting what is being charged in grocery store per pound of beef.They sure aren't injecting it with dye and water to increase profits for them and screw the customers.

"I'm concerned, you can either pay a little extra for a good steak, or take your rant back to the soup bowl, because you clearly didn't research this one out."

A little extra is fine, but when beef starts going for the price in ounces as in precious metals and about as tasty and soft as metal, I have the right to complain some. I also have the right to not buy at that price and still be able to eat smart.
By researching out beef, I will be sure to ask the butcher the pedigree of where the beef came from, whose lineage of parenting it came from, DNA samples to compare it to the parents, or maybe they make a OBD tool for checking out the beef like they do for autos and other equipment.Since I'm sure there is a port under the tail of beef for plugging in such tools.right?

LOU
 
Sprint 6,
only problem with the saying is is doesn't hold true, look at gasoline,insurance rates,ammunition,tires and groceries. I'm sure sometime it will go down, the question is when.Surely not while I'm alive.lol
Thanks for the reply,
regards,
LOU
 
Best beef I had was in Nebraska,soft and juicy. Todays beef doesn't taste much like what I remember and it sure doesnt help that the beef industry (middlemen) butcher houses, inject it full of red dye and water to increase said weight and profits. I even tried some of the boxed beef in the stores, I swear it was ostrich,or some other meat as it sure didn't look or taste like beef or horse.lol.
LOU
 
Ken Macfarlane,
It wouldn't bother me much if the beef farmers got a better deal,but I'm sure they aren't seeing 6-8 bucks a pound on the hoof for their product.If you ask me I'm sure they are importing it from mexico,driving it up on the old western trail a couple of times to the slaughter house.lol.I hope the farmers won't be hurt by me not purchasing my fair share of beef until it gets back to being reasonable in my mind.
LOU
 
wile E,
While it's true there are other meat sources,but I like beef.But not now. might try a few local growers and see what they would charge if I bought feed to raise a steer for me. Might be worth it for me to try.
Thanks for the laugh,
LOU
 
rusted nuts,
You are lucky, our neighbors raise nothing but noise.lol.Around here there are a few beef farmers,but might be worth the time for us to check into what they would charge for beef per side,or maybe raise one for us if feed was bought for the steer minus sorghum.Going to have to change for sure as the grocers have lost us as a beef eater until prices go down and flavor and chewyness improves.
Regards,
LOU
 
That's a GOOD one, Lon, and oh, so true!

I'll just be cranky 'ol LOU has worked for as little as possible all his life to give others a good deal on whatever it is he does/did!
 
I'll agree with ya, that 13 dollars for a steak as small and as tough as you say it was from the store is too high. As for the reputable butcher you got a bad half from, I'm not buying the reputable part. If a dog won't eat it, thats pretty bad. A reputable butcher don't do that. I don't give a $h1t if you did get some good meat from him other times, they don't do that. And what you said don't make no sense. In your original post you said we cut and wrapped it for the winter. You said we, I don't know who else was involved, but that means you cut and wrapped a half of beef you got from a butcher. That don't sound like a legit deal from a reputable butcher or slaughter house to me. Oh here, let me back up to your door here and throw a half of beef in the back of my truck, and I'll cut it up and package it when I get home. I'm not buying it. No butcher shop or slaughter house thats reputable would even consider that. I don't think your telling the whole story on that. No farmer gets grocery store prices. Dairy, pork, poultry, whatever. About half the cost of beef and pork is the processing and about half the cost allows for the actual meat. The grocery store guy and any middle man is also going to get a cut (another mark up). Your not going to run a grocery store and have the meat department operate for free for other guys like you are ya??? As for the injecting water and crap, thats wrong but its not just a beef problem, they do it to pork, poulry, sea food and everything else. Sounds like your eating all that other stuff too, so lets not just isolate that problem on beef alone. Cattle numbers really are down. Fill free to research it yourself. Feeder cattle market last week broke the all time record high 2 days in a row the end of last week. Didn't catch the market today. This money all goes back to the farmer. No processing plant or grocery store owner sees a dime of that money. Sure, the farmers aren't getting every dollar spent at the check out counter, but they are getting really good money out of cattle right now. Resarch that for yourself too!!! I'm sorry you have gotten some low quality meat. I don't know where you shop but if I was you I'd start shopping where they carried better quality meat. I'd recommend nothing but USDA Choice for you. No low grade crap cause it sounds like you've had enough of dog food quality. I feel kinda stupid telling you all this. It just irk's me when someone rants about the price, and don't even research it out to know why. I'm truely sorry about your misfortune of really low quality meat though. Shop elsewhere. Find a place that has good meat. Not just beef, but everything. If they'll carry bad beef, they are likely to carry other bad meats as well.
 
This week one of our most popular grocery stores has these prices advertised, Boneless sirloin steak-$4.99lb.,Chuck roast-$3.99lb., Ground round-$3.99lb., Stew beef-$4.49lb. Another store has New York Strip at $6.99lb. Most of this is a little beyond my budget, being on a fixed income, but we have learned to prepare just what is needed, and cook smaller portions. According to the AMA we eat too much red meat, and if that is true, I can easily exceed my limit because I love steak! If there is a upside to this mess, it is helping me to cut back on eating, which I have been needing to do for some time.
 
I will not argue. We sold some calves yesterday a 350 lb straggly steer brought 2.75 a lb. Beef prices received for farmers are at record highs. But so is replacement stock. I about passed out. As far as the taste of some beef some farmers feed them too much unnatural products.
 
It's not just beef, everything is high and it's going to stay that way. I can't think of anything that the price has gone reasonable on.
 
steak?!?
lol, haven't had a beef steak in years at these prices.
It's all just 'fuel' anyway and it all ends up in the toilet.
Where's my 50 cent box of mac and cheese....

I'd rather spend the money on tractor stuff.
 
This week(and each week for the last month)one of the popular grocery store has Ribeyes for $8.99 lb.....and 10 lb. Burger packs for $3.99 lb.....Black Angus. Delicious!!

Local butcher has organic and grass fed beef for a few bucks more per pound.

IMO well worth it....

Tim
 
You feel like rustling some beef swing by my place - I'd like to try out my new scope on my AR10.

I've never heard anyone complain about sorghum feed beef before.
 
One bad steak and I'm never ever going to eat beef again? Makes sense. If you're 5 years old.

$13 is only because you chose to pay that much for it. If that was the cheapest per pound cut of meat at that store you either need to find a different store, or start hunting moose and whales because you're living in the outskirts of Alaska.

Like you imply, you can't tell what a piece of meat is going to taste like or how tough it is going to be when it is on the hoof, hanging there, or on a styrofoam tray. It's ALL a pig in a poke.

You pays your money and you takes your chances. You could have chosen a less expensive cut that almost certainly would've been more tender and tasty. I'll take a nice chuck steak any day of the week over some of those supposedly "premium" cuts, which are almost always overpriced shoe leather.

About the only thing I'll pay a premium for is a nicely marbled ribeye.
 
(quoted from post at 00:10:35 05/06/14) You left out fishing - which also ends up costing a lot per pound.
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yea, but fishing provides free therapy, if you deduct the cost of a shrink, that makes fishing pretty much free.
 
Lou, It sounds like you live in the country why don't you buy a calf feed it your way and butcher it yourself? You will cut out many middlemen and be able so sell a half and keep the other half. You can feed it all the right feed you want and butcher it your way so it will be just what you like.
 
Dressed weight prices are at record highs. Steers are at 2.55 to 2.57, and heifers 2.54-2.56. In November 2013, prices were around 2.10. It'd take a real idiot to lose money right now. Lots of guy bought $155 corn and are now selling at 2.55. The prices have been like this coming on 4 months. The consumer is now starting to feel it, which of course means that beef consumption will drop, and cattle prices will too.
 
Slightly tapping a hornets nest with this eh ? LOL !

I have been really surprised with what I have bought locally from the supermarket's meat counter, and though I don't eat a lot of beef, for health reasons, you have to go and get a good steak every so often. I'll get a few for the grill, and its common at family gatherings, holidays or birthdays. I'll get a fillet mignon and prepare same for my mother periodically, picky eater, but she won't turn down a steak dinner. Its hard to believe what we can get at the store is actually good, very surprised, you pay for it too, but its not what you would think.

The local butcher shops, pork stores and the like, seem to be doing well around here, but are off the beaten path, but I seem to recall, prices were fair and the quality is always good. I'm not sure where they are sourcing their beef, not the same place where the big stores get it, and I know there is local beef being raised, of good quality, I used to deliver feed sweepings from a huge dairy to their foreman's place, he had 100 head of his own, good looking herd when I saw it last, he sells locally.

One thing that many of us do take advantage of is, the 2 1/2 months that is available to us to hunt whitetail deer. I enjoy planting forage for them, helps immensely with a harsh winter like the previous one and you know they enjoy it when you observe them. I'm privileged to be able to select from a local herd what I need to fill the various tags and it provides enough red meat for a year, + what we take in for processing. They finish on nice forage for weeks, so the meat has always been exceptional, we butcher immediately after every kill, and meticulously clean off the fat, sinew, silver skin and package and freeze, for a few hours work, you have a lot of food, above and beyond all, and as much as they are a pain to keep from the gardens, its something to be thankful for and not take for granted, I think we are very fortunate to have a healthy herd of whitetail of sufficient size with excellent habitat. Meat as you know is lean and healthy, and of course you can add pork fat, or prepare as you like, and unless you take a real old one, its very good, I did take a very old doe one time and it was not so good, it happens.
 
[i:654c4848f0]I"m sure beef farmers aren"t getting what is being charged in grocery store per pound of beef.[/i:654c4848f0]

If they were, then why would anybody run a grocery store?
 
The majority of US consumers will tend to go with whats cheapest. Its sad but true. And the people on food stamps are not going to spend their monthly allowance on high priced beef. And those people make up for quite a large percentage of the population these days. People want cheap food, and when prices go up, the stores have to work that much harder to market those higher prices, to make it seem like your still getting a good deal. That being said, I miss raising cattle! But I still get my half a beef every year.
 
(quoted from post at 19:20:13 05/06/14) The majority of US consumers will tend to go with whats cheapest. Its sad but true. [b:55c73fae4f]And the people on food stamps are not going to spend their monthly allowance on high priced beef[/b:55c73fae4f]. And those people make up for quite a large percentage of the population these days. People want cheap food, and when prices go up, the stores have to work that much harder to market those higher prices, to make it seem like your still getting a good deal. That being said, I miss raising cattle! But I still get my half a beef every year.
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Maybe not the ones on limited food stamps, but you need to get in line behind the long term welfare rats and see how they eat. WAY better than my family does. No way we can afford to eat like a lot of the ones I see, but then we don't have that secondary drug and child porn income to depend on........ :twisted:
 
We're fortunate to have a local guy that buys dairy culls and sells hamburg at $2.00 @ lbs. It's extremely lean and we mix it 50/50 with cheap hamburg from the discount grocery. You end up with something close to the ground round we used to serve at our family restaurant. But steak, we used to eat a lot of it. Now it's 4-5 times a year and usually London Broil on sale that needs marinating for 3 days. Goes a long way though. That or those flank steaks you leave on the grill for no more than 2 minutes a side or they are leather.

I miss good steak quite a lot.
 
When I was at Ft Knox a guy I worked with there had bought a house on 5 acres. He got a calf to raise. He and his wife decided that they could just feed it the same grain mix they were feeding their horses. Right before he had it butchered I went and helped him build a deck (meaning I built it with his help, he wasn't very good with a saw and hammer). When He got his meat he invited us over for a BBQ. That was the worst tasting beef I ever had. He showed me the grain they had been feeding. Was really poor quality and the producer had coated it with I think molasses to make it palatable.

We have a grocery store near us, small town, closest next one is 16 miles from that store. Lot of elderly folks in that town that just have to ability to go much further than in town. All of the prices on everything is crazy and their meat looks terrible. I can go to another small town and the store is much cheaper with much better looking meat. The difference is the 2nd one is a chain of 7 or 8 stores owned by one guy.

Rick
 
Taken from last weeks ads, our paper is only put out once a week in a town of 2600 with 2 small grocery stores.
Top Sirloin Steak - 3.99 per Lb.
Boneless Shoulder Roast - 3.49 per Lb.
Boneless Shoulder Steak - 3.49 per Lb.

It's not Filet Mignon , but it's no dog food. If my dog wouldn't eat it , he would go hungry.
 
(quoted from post at 04:31:47 05/07/14) When I was at Ft Knox a guy I worked with there had bought a house on 5 acres. He got a calf to raise. He and his wife decided that they could just feed it the same grain mix they were feeding their horses. Right before he had it butchered I went and helped him build a deck (meaning I built it with his help, he wasn't very good with a saw and hammer). When He got his meat he invited us over for a BBQ. That was the worst tasting beef I ever had. He showed me the grain they had been feeding. Was really poor quality and the producer had coated it with I think molasses to make it palatable.

We have a grocery store near us, small town, closest next one is 16 miles from that store. Lot of elderly folks in that town that just have to ability to go much further than in town. All of the prices on everything is crazy and their meat looks terrible. I can go to another small town and the store is much cheaper with much better looking meat. The difference is the 2nd one is a chain of 7 or 8 stores owned by one guy.

Rick
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Rick, when were you at Fort Knox/ My older brother was born there in 1944.
 
(quoted from post at 17:19:10 05/05/14) We buy a half a beef from our neighbor I can look out our window and see our meat growing. our steaks will melt in your mouth, hamburgers to die for. Just have to know how the beef were raised. All black face Angus.
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Does the whole face have to be black to be Angus? I thought that it had to be only 20% black to be certified.
 
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