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I was going through some Ford factory books that my father-in-law has around. He was a Ford engineer from 1956 up to 2000. His book shows a new F100 truck in 1965 for $1514. He also has the price he paid for a new 1965 Falcon with his employee discount from Ford. $1,612 - not including the options he penciled in. I got a kick out of big rig tractor trailers that Ford was selling with 534 cubic inch V8 gas engines.
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We owned a C1000 super duty single axel Tractor with that 534 eng. It was very powerful and fast. 80 MPH on the level with 700 bushels in the trailer. Oh ,and 4 M P G what ever the speed.!!
 
Pick-ups used to be a bare bones vehicle,no
carpeting,maybe a radio option,a lot cheaper to
build,my first new car was a 1970 Lemans
Sport,$3000,$55 a month payments after trade-
in,wish we had them days back!
 
My Grand Dad had a 1970 F100 pickup. It was a custom,302 V-8, Automatic transmission, Am radio, 55 AIR. LOL He gave $1700 straight out for the truck.

My Great Uncle had a F800 with a 534 and 5&4 transmission tandem dump truck. Would really pull. He hauled 25 ton all of the time.(Not real legal) Mileage: 1 1/2-2 MPG. Remember gas was under a quarter a gallon until 1972-73.

The fellow that says he got 4 MPG with a 534 must not have pulled it very hard.
 
Nearly new. Just bought this F350 with 15,000 original miles
from the original owner. Always stored inside - even smells
new. My grandson said it had an old fashion radio.
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Dad had a '66 F100. It had a 300 inline 6, 3 on the tree. No radio, no carpet, and only had a sun visor on the drivers side.


A buddy drove for a road building contractor. They had a straight truck with a 534 they used to haul forms. He hated that thing. Said on a good day it would get 3-4 MPG but 2-3 was normal.
 
That was a reason I bought my "72 Chevy 4x4 3/4 ton several years back. It was optioned with tilt and A/C. Thought that was odd for back then.
 
I have a 1966 Ford 'Body Builders Layout, always liked the 61'-66's, it has all the drawings, schematics, for '66 trucks, it lists the 401, 477, 534. My friends dad had a dozen of those old 850's 5x4 trans, tandems with dump bodies, was and still is in the trucking business, Ford all the way, I think they all had 534's in them. He still ran a few of those into the 90's on occasion, tough old trucks, saw the last of them for scrap 6 or 7 years back. I ran a 850 of the same vintage, with an allison automatic and a detroit in it, dump body on a site job, fun truck, quick body hoist, never saw one so fast. Not much head room, banged the top of my head hard enough to get knocked out, wake up, detroit is still humming away, at least where I fell was soft, that sure did hurt later, concussion and all. Always liked the style of those, but do watch your head getting in/out of those old trucks LOL !
 
My first truck was a 1970 F250 Ford plain jane with a 360 4 speed and a AM radio and step bumper my cost working at a Ford dealer was 1979 out the door. No powerful steering and not powerful brakes and no spare just a bare rim . Next truck was a 1973 F250 4X4 360 with a Automatic , traction lock rear Am radio , high output heater step bumper. towing mirrors, super coolrad.helper springs and a full spare, powerful steering and powerful brakes and a body trim pkg. out the door price was 4000. Next one was a 1978 F250 4X4 with a couple more goodys like and extra fuel tank and a snow plow prep pkg and snow plow now that one was 10217.36 out the door. And the last new truck i bought. They went up that much in ten years , Now to replace what i have the best deal is well over fifty grand . I did not have that in a new semi tractor and only ten grand more for a brand new dump trailer.
 
I bought a brand new 1965 Ford Custom 500 two door sedan in 1965. 6 cylinder, 3 on the tree. No radio. Rubber carpet. Paid just under $2,000.00 tax, tag, and title, out the door. On the other hand, my income in 1965 was $5,400.00, so my new car cost me nearly 1/3 my annual earnings.

So, if I bought a bottom of the line Ford sedan today and paid $17,500.00 for it, my income would have to be about $52,000.00 to equate to 1965.

Tom in TN
 
Bare bones, look at the fuse block of these old ones, a little square box LOL !

My '64 F600, flashers were an option, did have factory AM though, this one still does not have flashers, they really were simple and they had a sound of their own, I really enjoyed taking my old truck out for a spin or for some light work, just to hear it run LOL !
 
dad bought a dodge truk in 1959 for 1200 ,, did not like it,, so he traded it for a equal 60 ford , 3 speed , 6 cyl ,for a couple hundred more ,, in 65 he got a new ford 352/3 spd ,pikup for 2500,, in1969 he got a 360 /4spd ranger xlt loaded for just undr 4 grand ,, , late summer of 1970 he bought mom a 70 galaxie500,new old stok ,,. 351/ no ac for a flat 3 grand ,all from same salesman he bought all his fords from,,.hull dobbs ,, Louisville ky...
 
"Ford was selling with 534 cubic inch V8 gas engines."

That goes beyond that era. Local RFD has one 10 or 15 years newer than that.

It sucks a LOT of gas and can't hardly get out of it's own way!
 
Dad bought a new 1965 F-100 Custom Cab short-wide bed, the optional Dana 60 PosiTraction axle in 4:11, with the new for "65 300 and a T-98 4 speed transmission. My favorite farm pick-up.
 
I remember my grandparents paying $3,700 in 1973 for a 1973 FORD LTD, Land Yacht. I was a youngster then.

I also remember my parents paying $ 6,100 for a 1981 Grand Prix.....BEE YOU TEE FULL car. Red leather interior, White exterior, full power.
That same car now would be $ 32k.....if Pontiac was still around.
 
Only place gas was under 25 would have been a gas war. It was 29.9 in 1955 when i worked in a station and it stayed that way for a long time. You can look up retail gas prices for proof.
 
I recall both my FIL and an old carpenter I used to work with both complaining aoubt the cost of new trucks and telling how each had bought a new 4wd PU in the mid 60's for under $2500.00. Apparently to both, $2499 was the magic cut off number for reasonable priced trucks!

I can recall when a VW bug was still under $2K brand new and when the family station wagon could be had for well under $10K when I was well into my driving years.

Devaluation of the currency, inflation, more required equipment, wages, healthcare, taxes, higher costs across the board. Such is life.
 
they dont lol, the company i drove for back then had a ford tandem truck with the 534 and a 5&4, i was shocked by the lack of power the first time i got in it, i was comming out of a r model mack with a 5& 3, this gas rig wouldnt get out of its own way! it did eventually get the job done and get where i was going, but i hated that thing i got stuck in it when its normal driver wasnt available, as at the time i was the only guy why could drive a 2 stick rig that they had
 
We have always had Fords except for one lone GMC in 1974.

First truck, I remember was my Grandpa"s 1951 F2...wow that was a truck. Straight flathead 6...you had to double clutch it.

He traded it for a 1964 F250...262 straight 6 with a 4 speed and AM radio...it strayed on the farm for over 40 years. When it left, I felt like we had lost a part of the family.

I purchased a 1965 F250 with a 300 6 and 4 speed and restored it back in the 90"s...I sold it when I purchased a new F150 in 1998. My F150 has nearly 300,000 miles, though is really starting to show the age and miles.

I wish I could still buy plain jane trucks with the 6 cylinder and 4 speed.

Grandpa also had a 1975 F250 with a 390...that was a tough truck that lasted until he traded it for a 1989 F250 with a 351 and a 4 speed with OD.

Today, a 2011 F250 Diesel is the main truck on the farm.
 
I always got a kick out of seeing the figures cars sold for. I could never figure out why in around the mid to late 70's they started taking a BIG leap upwards ?
Well one day not long ago I heard someone talking about inflation and how the federal reserve was started at that same time and BINGO there was the answer !
 
Actually, you would need even more than that to be equivalent. Tax inflation would eat up the $52,000 at a greater rate than the previous $5,400. To equate to the 1965, it would take about 4 times the income to account for tax inflation.
 
My late FIL gave me a 1962 Bluebook that has both used car wholesale values and also dealer costs on new 1962 models.

1962 Chevy Impala Sport Coupe wholesale FOB incl Fed Excise tax:
$2068.95, 409 cu.in Turbo-Fire $376.65, 4 spd w/tach $183.95, Posi-trac $33.45, SS equipment pkg $41.80, 2 spd wipers incl washers $13.41, radio $43.90

Also of interest -
There were already California equipped cars back then?!
 
(quoted from post at 03:29:42 04/04/14) Only place gas was under 25 would have been a gas war. It was 29.9 in 1955 when i worked in a station and it stayed that way for a long time. You can look up retail gas prices for proof.
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Yup,I keep hearing about that 19 and 20 cent a gallon gas. I'm 72 years old and the absolute lowest price I remember is 29 cents a gal.and that was when I was around 10 years old.It stayed at that price for years.In the area I live,gas has historicaly been higher priced than anywhere around within a 50 mile radius.
 
Dad bought a new half ton Chevy in 1966 for $1795. He could have gotten a GMC $5 cheaper but that dealer was another 15 miles farther away,so he went with the Chevy.
 
I can remember my very first brand new pick-up truck .. 1975 F-100 4X4 shortbed.. I paid 4950.00 out the door... But that was then and this is now.. My last new pick-up was a'05 Silverado.. No more new trucks for me.. My 27 year old Military Chevy serves me well.. It just turned 23,000 miles.. I've got a little over 7000.00 dollars tied up in it , but will last me for many years to come..
 
Bluebook re: 1962 Chevrolet
Option #242
Ventilation, "Spcl. crnkcs. All California Cars"
Retail $5.40 Wholesale $4.20
Option #417 "positive cranckcase ventilation" $11.85
Only see the California option available on Chevrolet/ Corvettes engines. Looked at Pontiac, Buick and Olds.
The "positive cranckcase ventilation" shown all the other GM models available @ $5.40

When I was transferred from my sea duty home port of NAS Barbers Point, Hawaii to NAS Norfolk in 1972 I ordered a '72 Olds Cutlass Supreme to be picked up in Oakland, Calif. It had the 350 lower compression pollution garbed engine in it. I was a dog compared to a 1971.
 
First new car 1967 VW beetle $1850 out the door, next new car, 1968 midnight blue Plymouth Road Runner, $2800 out the door. I remember gasoline being 15.9 a gallon either Sunoco 190 or Gulftane. (Both lower octane fuels)around 1964 in the Detroit area.
 
I thought they said it had something to do with them. Maybe that's when they started trying to print their way out of debt. ? Or maybe it was some other fail policy ? Either way it tied right in with that missing piece of the price jump time line.
Wish my memory was more precise so I could find the info on it.
 
Well my NEW Chevy truck in 1983 with that 6.2 started falling apart around that mileage !
I wouldn't count on one being very reliable.
 
Nixon removed the last tie to gold in 71 or 72, so it involved both the central bankers and our government.
 
Remember hearing about how hard it was for a rancher/feedlot gut to get a pickup with rubber floor mats instead of carpet- He said he tracked a lot of mud and manure into his pickups, and it got into the carpet and you couldn't get the smell out, so wanted rubber mats so he could hose it out. I think he had to finally order it special from the factory, and they charged him extra for "carpet delete".

Remember when you ordered your car from Detroit instead of just picking one off the lot? My grandparents bought a new Buick in 1955, took the train back to Detroit and drove it home. I think the shipping savings paid for a good portion of the trip.
 
(quoted from post at 06:08:33 04/04/14)
(quoted from post at 03:29:42 04/04/14) Only place gas was under 25 would have been a gas war. It was 29.9 in 1955 when i worked in a station and it stayed that way for a long time. You can look up retail gas prices for proof.
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Yup,I keep hearing about that 19 and 20 cent a gallon gas. I'm 72 years old and the absolute lowest price I remember is 29 cents a gal.and that was when I was around 10 years old.It stayed at that price for years.In the area I live,gas has historicaly been higher priced than anywhere around within a 50 mile radius.
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We had a Texaco station across the road from us when I was growing up. I can recall when gas jumped from 26 cents to 32 and then the obscene price of 38 cents a gallon!

We used to come up to the Ogdensburg area and marvel at the cheap gas, up to a nickle less than int he Central Adks. Of course back then the whole waterfront was tank farms. Now it's all "brownfields".
 
Worked at a Chevy dealer late '60-early61. Our price leader was a bare 1/2 ton, $1548. We had a bunch of them lined up on the RR right of way, adjacent to HW66. Great place to advertise. 'Cept one night someone pulled all the transmissions. On that model, 4 bolts in the trans case, 4 on the rear u-joint and you could pull the trans and driveshaft. 5-10 minutes for two guys, not even a jack needed on trucks.
I drove a '61 Impala 2dr ht, red&white, 283 power pack engine, 2 speed powerglide, A/C, demo car. Sold for $3200!

I lasted about 2-3 months in sales, then went to the parts and shop, where I belonged.
 
Was that 850 repowered with a double breasted yamahaw a 6V53 and auto box? Ford some cat engines (1160) in late super duty 1000' s in 69-70,the screamers didn't come until the Louisvilles around 72-73 aas factory installed,I may be wrong,just ask my wife.
 
Inflation was a big problem from the late 1960's into the early 1990's. The buildup for the Vietnam war overheated the US economy in the late 60's. In the early 1970's Nixon implemented a series of three or four "Phases" of price controls to try to slow inflation. The 1973 oil embargo rocketed oil from $2/barrel to close to $10. The price of alternatives like coal and natural gas also went up accordingly. As the prices of inputs went up, so did the price of most manufactured goods.

In the mid 1970's the US faced "Stag-flation": Stagnant growth, together with high Inflation. Around 1980 interest rates were between 15 and 20 percent. The US farm economy was still riding high on grain exports, until trade embargoes and boycotts in the 1980's brought that down too. Energy prices stabilized in the 1990's and so did US inflation.

Take a look at your kid's or grandkid's history books once in a while. There was a lot going on back then too, we were just too busy to pay attention.
 
Catalytic converters come in around 1975. Exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) was also started that same time. Positive crankcase ventilation (PVC) came in the early 1960's. City smog was pretty bad by the 1950's and the anti-pollution legislation came on strong by the 60's.
 
Last new truck was a 1976 f250 4x4 High boy.Paid $5100 for it on dec 3rd. It has a radio and power steering. No air Now I wished it had air also.Ten miles to gal loaded or empty.Its been a good old truck.
 
CA may have gotten egr and lower compression a few years earlier than the rest of the country. 1973 was the year performance took a big nose dive because of the EPA regs. Cats came a few years later. Maybe 77 give or take.

As for gas prices... I remember the Cheker (formerly Road Chief) station where my brother used to work had regular for 23.9 cents and ethyl for 26.9 in 1970 when my parents bought a new Maverick. The Owens station a couple blocks away had the same prices as Cheker. A few doors from Owens was Conoco. They were a penny higher than Owens and Checker. A few blocks from there was Texaco and they were usually 2 cents higher than the independents and the same as the Enco (ESSO/EXXON) station down the street from them. Sinclair was changing their name to ARCO about that time. They were across the street from Cheker and usually priced the same or a penny higher. Shell and Standard were a couple blocks the other direction and they were always a penny or two higher than Cheker. Gas went way up in '73 but it was back down to 32.9 when I started driving in the mid 70's.
 
Paid a little over $10,000 for a new 79 Dodge 3/4 ton with 360, AM radio, four speed tranny, heavy radiator and brakes, power steering and brakes and nothing more. No air, rubber mats, nothing fancy. I still have that pickup and drive it occasionally just to remind me how stupid I was to spend that amount of money just so I could have a four wheel drive pickup I did not need at that time in my life. Bought a new practically bare bones 73 Plymouth Satellite for $3200 with tax and license and ready to drive. Put 300,000 miles on that car.

In comparison, a couple of years ago I was shopping for a Chev Colorado, preferably new but bare bones. A bare bones one with two wheel drive, four cylinder and five speed, rubber mats, crank windows, regular cab was quoted to me in the high $14000 range. Extended cab, $1000 more. Automatic tranny, $1000 more. I ended up with a 12000 mile 2009 used four door with automatic, five cylinder, two wheel drive, power windows and a small handful of doo dads for the price of a bare bones new one. In comparison I paid way, way too much for that 79 Dodge, waaaay too much. Jim
 
Talk about ordering a vehicle - I ordered my pickup new in 07.
It just about killed the salesman. I told him I wanted all of the
options but no leather, no sunroof, and a chrome front bumper.
He could not figure that out. He looked all the way to Utah to
truck one in and couldn't find it exactly right. He could not
figure out why I didn't want a painted bumper. He didn't farm
and chase cattle, clearly. He finally ordered it. I was there
when the truck arrived with it on and watched them unload it.
Two miles on it when I left the lot. I think that's probably rare
anymore.
 
My dad has a 57 fairlane that's a California car with a catalytic converter and seat belts from factory the first year.....
 
The '05 Silverado was back 14 plus times and the '97 Ram was back around 16 times , but who's counting.. The Silverado went away at 38,000 miles and I didn't bat an eye at it leaving.. So far the military brat has been ok other than problems from sitting around and not being used for 24 years before I got it.. Fuel and electrical has had gremlins , but I've got them worked out.. Who'da thunk that 2 12 volt alternators are working to make 24 volts.. I've got a spare TH400 trans and a spare 6.2 engine , a 24 volt starter and alternator just in case.. every other thing is available locally.. About the only other thing I'd like to do is put wider belts on it as a set only lasts 3-4 months and run outa adjustment....
 
My dad bought a 1977 GMC in July 77.It was a demonstator and had about 85 miles on it.Totally bare bones 250 3 on the tree no radio.He was still whining that the sales tax and undercoating brought the total to $4000 when he died 30 years later but he was still driving that same truck.
 
my first and only new car was a 78 trans am loaded except bird on hood, didn't want it. paid 10,000. swore i'd never buy new again and haven't. but also i haven't won the lottery either. as far as im concerned air conditioning is a must. a tin can greenhouse is no where to be sitting when it's 90* or above out.
 
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