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AC 170

They are a fairly good tractor. The thing I really did not like about any of this series of AC tractors was that they still had the hand lever for the Power director/PTO. So even though they where built 68-73 they still did not have a true independent PTO.

I bought a real nice AC 180 in the mid 1980s. It handles fairly well but was terrible on the square baler. The short lever on the dash just was real hard to use and not jerk the tractor.

I think the AC 170 still has the longer lever. This worked much better than the short dash lever on the 180/185. I think a AC 170 is basically a D-17 with a Perkins motor in it if it is diesel.
 
(quoted from post at 19:23:17 04/01/14) can someone give me the horsepower of a AC170? one coming up at action and was curious
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I have one 170D and four 175 diesels that are my main tractors. I love the diesels, very efficient and simple. The power director is mechanical and runs in oil and is one of the best power shifts made. You can slip it all day and it won't get hot. I like it because when running pto equipment you can stop tractor movement and pto with the main foot clutch....no need to fumble around with the foot clutch and a hand lever. Makes for a great tilling and brush hogging tractor. The larger tractors used a hydraulic power shift which isn't as smooth.

Trannies are apt to jump out of 2nd or 3rd if they have been abused over the years by gear grinders.

Here is the info on it. http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/7/179-allis-chalmers-170.html
 
Although I've never driven a 185(crop hustler),I always thought they would be a good/handy tractor to own.Classmate had one,They thought it was the best tractor ever! They even said it was better on a silage chopper(NH717) than a 4020.....?I had a hard time with that one!I know my (first) old 706(70 horse 282) wouldnt hold a candle to a 4020
 
Steve The AC 180/185 had the AC 301(2800)engine. They handled pretty good but where slow on the road. The power director on them was a short lever on the right side of the dash. It had real strong detents. It was real hard to start smoothly. My wife refused to drive it after the first few times she ran it on the square baler. She threw me off the top of a full wagon load of hay because of how that power director worked.

The AC 170/175 has the long lever like the D series did. The larger AC 190 had a longer lever on the side console. Both of these worked fairly good.

The big issue is you still basically had/have a hand clutch while doing PTO work. Not the nicest setup on a fairly modern tractor.

I only kept the AC 180 I had for six months or so. I traded it to a local AC dealer even up for a Oliver 1655. That tractor worked much better for hay chores than the AC 180.
 
(quoted from post at 20:38:57 04/01/14) Although I've never driven a 185(crop hustler),I always thought they would be a good/handy tractor to own.Classmate had one,They thought it was the best tractor ever! They even said it was better on a silage chopper(NH717) than a 4020.....?I had a hard time with that one!I know my (first) old 706(70 horse 282) wouldnt hold a candle to a 4020
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The 4020 is kind of in between the 185 and 190XT. I know this 4020 propane is a dog compared to the XT...I think my 185 would out pull it also. Of course my XT has been turned up a bit :p

 
Similar to a WD/WD45? I always kinda liked those.I really liked the way the 'high strung' AC engine sounded as it worked.Years ago when I started,I wanted a WD45 for baleing in the worst way.Figured it would be LOTS better than the M I was useing.Now,I have/been blessed with a 826 Hydro(a tractor of my dreams).It just dont get any better that that!
 
(quoted from post at 21:08:07 04/01/14) Similar to a WD/WD45? I always kinda liked those.I really liked the way the 'high strung' AC engine sounded as it worked.Years ago when I started,I wanted a WD45 for baleing in the worst way.Figured it would be LOTS better than the M I was useing.Now,I have/been blessed with a 826 Hydro(a tractor of my dreams).It just dont get any better that that!
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The D17 replaced the WD45 and the handclutch became the power director with a high-neutral-low, so it gained 4 more speeds. The gas 226 had a few more horses, the 230 Buda diesel available in the WD45D became the 262 Buda diesel. The later D17 Series IV could be ordered with a factory 3pt and had modern live (independent) low pressure hydraulics.
The early 170 was basically a D17 Series IV with new sheetmetal and a little different seat/steering arrangement. Later models had a redesigned front end and front mount hydraulic pump and a little shorter wheelbase. AC went with the 236 Perkins for the diesel option, later changed to the 248 Perkins. The 175 was basically an upgraded 170 with a few more horses. The 175 was the last tractor available from AC with a gas engine.

There is your AC lesson in a nutshell.....
 
(quoted from post at 22:42:34 04/01/14) All that talking for nothing. At least one person answered the question at hand.
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Sorry to waste your time Cnut....why did you even read this??
 
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