OT Flight 307 again

pat sublett

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It seems to me that the most absurd statement made about the plane thus far is, The transponder had to have been turned off. I would like to see one of them suckers, cause I isn't never seen nothing that "can't fail". Sounds like a statement from a Lawyer or Press Secretary to me.
 
In the New York Post today there was an article about a woman on another plane who was watching out the window and saw a large silvery object that looked like a plane on the water. She told the flight attendant who shut her shade and told her to go to sleep. When she got off the plane she filed a police report. The pilot was quoted as saying they were too high up to see things. The woman said she was looking out the window earlier and had seen islands and ships below, later seeing the plane . I know the post is written at a fourth graders level but it is the free paper in the diner.
This was five days before the search started.
 
The news media is so consumed with this I'm surprised one of the networks doesn't have a large float plane fly a correspondent and dingy where the flotsam's been spotted, offload the the dingy and correspondent who then paddles around the unidentified piece and say "exclusive, you saw it here first". I visualize the dingy bobbing like a cork on 20 foot swells.
 
I feel sorry for the family members not knowing for sure what happened to their loved ones. I sadly think its unlikely it made a safe landing. Had it made a safe landing which probly could of only been done at a compatible air-port, the passengers would of no doubt been in contact with loved ones via cell phone's. That has not happened as far as I know. I hope for the best though.
 
You can be fairly certain there are redundant transponders on a 777, operated from redundant, independent electrical systems. Also, transponders are very simple, reliable devices as modern avionics go; they just don't fail that often.

Now, of course if a transponder does fail, it's difficult to tell from the cockpit. But the telling point is that the transponder quit at precisely the moment went it was least likely to be noticed. When the flight was handed off from Malaysian to Vietnamese ATC, it would have been typical for the new control center to instruct the aircraft to switch to a different transponder code. If Malayasian ATC didn't have the squawk code turned on on their radar displays, the flight would have seemed to disappear, just like it did. And it seems the Vietnamese controllers weren't paying attention, otherwise they would have noticed almost immediately that a flight which should have reported in to them did not.
 
I wonder how many executive orders barry has signed while this is going on and the American sheeple are distracted. After all, they "never let a crisis go to waste"!
 
I don't get CNN; But somebody told me a day or two ago they are going to rename it the MH370 crash network. I guess thats all they want to talk about. Even when the latest information is days old!
 
My wife's a CNN junkie, and all they do is replay the same stuff over and over and over and over and over and over.

And anytime someone says something that hasn't been said fifty times already, the flash "BREAKING NEWS" on the screen.

If you don't get CNN, consider yourself lucky.
 
In the post article there was the girlfriend of one of the missing Americans stating. I hope there is a wing floating on it somewhere with Phil clinging to it. This like someone drowning is very hard for loved ones to accept.
 
Things can fail. But this is a commercial airliner with experienced pilots - stuff doesn't just happen there.
 
The ELT is supposed to release from the airframe and float.
There is something about the whole mess that doesn't "smell" right.
I hope it was just some short circuited and burning lithium cells in the cargo hold.
 
(quoted from post at 01:24:45 03/24/14) The ELT is supposed to release from the airframe and float.
There is something about the whole mess that doesn't "smell" right.
I hope it was just some short circuited and burning lithium cells in the cargo hold.

The ELT is stored in a crew accessible area in a cabinet basically (at my airline). If we don't retrieve it and take it with us in the event of a ditching it is going down with the airplane. It will not automatically release and float. Wherever Flt 370 is that is where the ELT is, most likely on the bottom of the ocean.
 

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