Coyotes

notjustair · Mar 16, 2014

I sure hope this doesn't get ugly - you know how opinions go.

The season has started. The >#%~ coyote hunters came coasting down the road today. Nothing makes my blood boil more this time of year.

I hate coyotes as much as the next guy but as far as I am concerned these boys have it wrong. They run dogs (through everyone else's land mind you) to run them down and tear them to bits. Neighbor has had them in court but they just keep coming back. Problem is that there are lots of absentee farmers that come in from a distance. They know just which farms have no one living there. I guess all I can do is watch my ground and call all the neighbors.

Hopefully after the words that several of us had with them they won't be back next weekend in their new big pickups. That's a pipe dream I know. Grrrr.

john in la · Mar 16, 2014

Sounds just like our deer season.

Got real nasty around here for a while until some of the land owners figured out it is legal to shoot dogs on your property when you are protecting your live stock.

farmerwithmutt · Mar 16, 2014

Same problem i got and if you tell them its private property they well complain about there hunters rights .there are good well mannered hunters and others that got the idea whats mine is mine and whats yours is mine. i like having coyotes around before they got chased to death i had few ground hogs skunks etc had jersey with calf grazing next to den never bothered but neighbors dogs almost got one i got there in time. there has to be a balance and i think maybe coyotes get a bad rap because it turns out most cattle killings is dogs but it gives people a reason to trespass on your land

Moline_guy · Mar 16, 2014

Several counties around here got together along with several cattle men and hire a pilot and gunner to clean out yotes. The pilot and gunner also work with the state trapper. Trapper works the ground the plane flies and make sure they are dead and not just wounded. They formed a council and farmers/ranchers give permission to fly there land and also donate to the council to pay pilot and gunner. Pilot is a common sense kind of guy and flies when there is snow and usually in the feb and march month during breeding season to give the council the most for there money. He has a lot of experience and they don't fly land if owner does not want it flown. It is unreal the number of yotes they have taken, still some howling at night but not like it use to be.

notjustair · Mar 16, 2014

Over towards the capital there was nearly a war. Some of the coyote runners were out "hunting". When they ran across a farmer's pasture he shot all of the dogs. He was within his rights to protect his livestock and the law backed him up. The game warden said he was pretty sure that one of those hunters was going to end up shooting the farmer. I guess everyone simmered eventually.

There's a boy I will call out here to hunt when the coyotes are too thick. He calls them and shoots. It's just not humane the way these runners do it. Coyote or not, be humane. Coyotes are the only animal here it is legal to hunt from the road. That needs to change in my opinion.

sd pete · Mar 16, 2014

We do the same here. It sure gets the population down.

mab570diesel · Mar 16, 2014

ya it really ticks me off when people can't stay off others property no respect bad thing is mushroom season is coming and that's a real pain in my arse too. i often wondered how the trespassers would like it if i pulled up in their yard and decided to camp out or have a bbq or maybe ride a 4wheeler ya sure they wouldn't. had some kid (16-18) few years ago pull off the road by one of my woods and started in when asked what he was doing he said mushroom hunting i said no private property he was serious and said he didn't think you could own woods REALLY didn't know someone could be that dumb but he got in his car and left. and that is why some people go to extremes when they do catch one.

redforlife · Mar 16, 2014

coyote hunters in my area kinda like to hunt by the square mile instead of by individual farms. they are likely to hunt a square mile even if they only have permission to hunt on say 3/4 of it. I've kinda just learned if ya can't beat em join em. ussually just go ahead and let em go if they have permission to go on the rest of the section. The dog thing is kinda cruel. Really no different than coon dogs. those dang foot hold traps are cruel too. nothing very humane about furharvesting.

notjustair · Mar 16, 2014

You need a sign. "I've taken a leak on half of the 'shrooms in
here. You guess which half."

Maybe this: "Feel free to take mushrooms as transplants. They grow well in soil fertilized from the septic tank - that's what I use".

fixerupper · Mar 16, 2014

In my part of the barren prairie the coyote hunters also hunt by the section. I have a mile and a half of drainage ditch going through my land with no trees or brush so the hunters can see their prey pretty easy. I have known them for years and every year one of them drives in my yard to ask me if they can hunt again this year. My standard answer to them is yes, but under one condition-you get all of them. Jim

Traditional Farmer · Mar 16, 2014

Wish I could find some hunters that know how to actually kill a coyote I'd pay them a bounty and I don't care how hard they are on the coyotes because the coyotes don't have any mercy on my poultry and livestock.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 16, 2014

not in MO. You can shoot the dog(s) only if "they are injuring or killing livestock. dogs that merely enter private property may not be killed". MO Revised Statutes Section 273.030 - so much for landowner rights.

john in la · Mar 16, 2014

Kornfused

If you had read between the lines you would have seen that somehow there was always 1 dead chicken or a farmer looking to be repairing fence by the time the game warden showed up.

A couple of these guys that live around here got more than a little mad when some cows broke threw a fence from the dogs running across the pasture.

I really feel sorry for the dogs as they were only doing what they were trained to do but everyone has their breaking point.

rlpintx · Mar 16, 2014

I get em during deer season. Had shot a deer during bow season and while trailing it had one following me only about 10 foot away. He got shot for being too bold.

KIP in MX · Mar 17, 2014

Yeah, I saw that in the MO hunting handbook last year. I give my neighbors dogs a pass because I don't have livestock and they hardly ever run loose, but any strays are domestic coyotes. If I ever see the neighbors dogs chasing deer on my place, I'll call them the first time. After that, the dogs will turn into coyotes.

Ron in Nebr · Mar 17, 2014

Shooting coyotes(or anything) is no more humane if the shot only wounds them. I've caught a lot of three-legged coyotes with my hounds, coyotes had obviously had a leg shot off. If the hounds catch a coyote, it's going to be dead, not wounded. But as often as not the coyotes win and the hounds don't catch them.

On the original topic, I will add here that I only hunt on my own land and a couple neighbors WITH permission. As a landowner, I know all too well how it feels when people hunt without permission, and I won't do it to others.

Bret4207 · Mar 17, 2014

I don't mind the dogs running and killing any coyotes they can. I do mind the guys that own the dogs and their attitude that the dogs aren't trespassing. Same with snowmobilers, ATV riders, pot growers, deer and duck hunters, college geology classes that want to look at my rocks and people whose families lived here 75 -100 years back and somehow think it's still "their" land. I don't trespass on other peoples lands and we have thousands of acres of public lands here for those people to use. But they insist on using private lands.

No manners, no common sense, no permission from me. Compared to some of these people, the coyotes look pretty decent.

NNP · Mar 17, 2014

cityboy deer hunters are more the problem here,
especially the lazy or late season desperate ones
that want to 'push' everywhere.

Our local coyote hunters are a good bunch.
They ask permission of everyone in the area,
and usually get it because of our growing coyote problem.
They also stop at all the houses on my rural road (even ones that don't own much land) and tell people
they will be hunting the coyotes with rifles that have a big bang,
so they don't startle people. Good guys.

John Fulton · Mar 17, 2014

Hunting deer with dogs is an old tradition here in Southside Virginia. Dogs are released in November and (most) picked up in January. My dog/livestock problems are reverse of what most here have said here, in that my horses have trampled more than one dumb deer dog that entered their pasture. Usually it is a young dog that has been raised in a pen all its life and has had no experience in the real world. When I tell hunters about it, they are not upset, just figure it is the cost of doing business and come back next year.

keh · Mar 17, 2014

Back around 1970 my wife and I took a trip to some of the Western states, stopped at a campground in Colorodo, got to talking to a man from Kansas. His compliant about coyote hunters then was that they chased coyotes with jeeps and ran over fences. They even had sharp v shaped uprights welded on to the front bumpers so they could cut the barbed wire when they hit it, all highly illegal.

KEH

jerrybigrig · Mar 17, 2014

What part of the country are you in ? I'd like to help you out.

Ron in Nebr · Mar 19, 2014

Yeah, it was before my time but I've heard stories of guys in this area who did that back in the 70's when coyotes were bringing 100 bucks apeice. Really a few of the jerks who did that gave ALL coyote hunters a bad name. Still to this day if a fence is found broken it's blamed on coyote hunters. That's another reason I mainly stay on my own land.

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