Should I sell the JD 4320 parts I have????

JD Seller

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I have posted in the past how I have always wanted a JD 4320. Also about how I have finally gathered up enough parts to build one from scratch.

It seems like life gets in the way every time I start to work on getting one together. I started on it again last summer. Boxed it all back up last fall again as life threw me another curve ball.

It seems like I don't have the time and or energy for "big" projects anymore.

A friend of my oldest son is wanting to buy all the stuff and make himself a JD 4320. He has a good history on large projects. He has built several street rods and pulling tractors. He would more than likely have it done in six months to a year.

I have been collecting parts and stuff for close to twenty to twenty-five years for this project. It just seems like the fire in the belly is not there anymore.

So I am really thinking hard about selling him the whole kit and kubutal. It is kind of giving up on a dream. I am finding I have few dreams left anymore. Either I have done them or I realize they are not going to happen.

I am in pretty good health but I just don't have the fire I used to have for doing big projects. Maybe I have developed ADD in my old age. LOL

So what have you fellows done in similar situations???? I am finding retirement is not all fun and games.

The wife and my sons have told me to just go buy a completed JD 4320 for years but I just can't see spending what they sell for on a tractor that would not really be used that much. It is more just something I have wanted but not really needed.

Kind of like fast women or fast cars. I would not know what to do with either of them as well. LMAO
 
How about the concept of building it with him. If he has the spirit to work on it dillagently, and is assisted by you in the details and procedures, you both win. You could have joint ownership, or you could sell it to him with the option to use it upon occasion to Feel connected.
Agree on the details/commitment/finances/and ownership, as well as the inevitable purchased parts and fluids! Jim
 
JDseller, I have spent all my money on fast women and bad cars.....the rest of it I just wasted!!!! Maybe that tractor is what you need to get the fire going again? Just take it one bit at a time and get someone to help put the heavy bits together? You know I have been wondering about that tractor just lately and thinking you would be building away at it and nearly ready to surprise us with a nice new or good as new JD. No point having a dream if you ain't gonna chase it! You ain't old enough yet to give up easily?
Sam
 
I would suggest making him a good deal, something that is reasonable for both of you. I imagine that you will get a lot of satisfaction from seeing him build it, and help when you can.

Rich
 
You could let him put it together with the understanding that he gets it in, say, 5 years. You don't get the joy of doing the project, but he gets a "free" tractor in a predetermined amount of time.
 
Sam: I have a good life. That was my dream for years. I enjoy my family growing around me and seeing them become successful.

It just seems that by the time I get the necessities done there is not the energy left for anything else anymore.

This week is an example. We had several days of warmer weather that thawed out the cattle yards so we could get the manure pack up. Then we had several mornings that the ground refroze on top so it was not too slick to spread manure. Those morning founds me out of the house at 4 am . We put in 12-14 hours on those days.

Then today. I found I just did not feel like doing anything. I have shop space to work on stuff if I wanted to but I just did not have the energy to go and do it. Did the morning feeding chores. Then I talked to the wife for a while on the phone. Did some light house work and wasted the rest of the day reading or messing around on the Internet. Put my sweat pants on after Dinner and have not even left the house since this morning. Just been lazing around. I never used to run out of energy for things but I sure do now. Also have to pop ibuprofen just to navigate many days now too.
 
JD, if this is something you have had cooking for 25 years.....you need to do it! You have the parts and pieces....go for it!

I hate to see people give up on their dreams and ambitions, especially as they get older in life and run into problems. (watching this with my Grandfathers now)

If you want it....go do it! You are in good health go for it while you can, don't be laid up down the road and wish you had, or worse wish you could!
 
I think it would be hard to give up on a dream even if you cannot complete it in as timely of a manner as you would want. From your posts, it sounds like you have a lot going on now, but maybe down the road it would be one heck of a project with the grandkids or a neighbor kid. I know I still have great memories of my grandpas A when I was 5 years old. It seems to me you have a lot of knowledge that needs to be passed onto as many folks as possible. You can always sell it if need be. Good luck
 
Sell it to him fair with the option to run it.

I have seen lots of my passions change over the years. As it takes me longer to do things around the farm or I am more worn out when I am done with daily tasks I end up doing less of those things. I think there's nothing wrong with that as long as you still find joy in the other things you do. That's just the way it is. I always liked rebuilding old cars because I liked the welding challenge and using my hands. Now I farm more diversely (and larger) and use that ability to weld together new pipe corrals and things. The cars get used to run to town for parts. I haven't given up on that interest completely. Times change.
 
At your age, when your wife is not well and living away from you the fire and drive seems to die down. Selling the 4320 to the young man and physically helping him or giving advice to him might be the best choice. You will have lost your dream project but by selling it you will have helped a young man with his dream. You've been a hard worker throughout your life and now you feel like a you are letting yourself down for giving up on something but sometimes with age we start realizing that maybe it's time to help someone else take over. Like I've said before, a tractor is only cold, heartless steel. Helping your sons get started in farming and your willingness to help others is your legacy. Jim
 
what ever you decide,just think of it as a tractor,,no big deal,,,the big deal is your wife is getting better,,,,things can always be worse,,,,its always nice to hear from you,,,hang in there!
 
as i get older my hobbies have been condensed into a couple of things i am passionate about and will not take too much time from spending time with kids and grandkids, which i see as more important/fun ,,,,,, JMHO
 
JD I don't know you only from following you here. I have been following you here the past few years. I wouldn't rush into selling the 4320, you can always do that. Your family seems to have a lot of stresses going these past few years. Helping your neighbors, tucking, and dealing with livestock this winter. Also your wife's health issue. That is enough to drain anyone's energy. Wait a bit and when things get back to normal and your wife gets home life will have new meaning again. I don't know about you but sometimes just having a project to plan or work on is good therapy to take my mind off of the other things going on around me at the time. You can sell the 4320 in an instant but you have a lot of time invested in collecting the parts to just let it go now. Just my opinion for what it is worth. Good luck I hope for the best for you.
 

It looks to me like the 4320 is exactly what you need to keep you from falling over the edge of a whole lot of time just running a way from you sitting at the compuker. Don't give up without a fight!! get out there and work on it at least two days a week. You will be glad that you dd.
 
Just what's wrong with taking a day off after putting in those kind of hours. I'd have to say you earned it. None of us are getting any younger and we should't get the idea we have to keep up with the younger guys or that we have to keep going every day.
I like the ideas of the other guys on maybe working together on your project. You both get to see it done, and the companionship sure makes the time go better. Stopping for coffee and visiting for a bit is pretty hard to beat and you don't have to feel guilty about it. My 2cents worth.
 
If it was me I wouldn't sell, besides the 4320 being one of the best tractors jd ever built, I think having a dream that long it needs to be fulfilled. I too have days when I feel like doing nothing even with a million things to do, but I realize that it is generaly just depression, mixed with the enormity of all the things to get done. With all you have on your plate I would guess that may be your case also. It will pass and you will get back to the project. Good luck and God speed
 
Jd,I have no idea what your health is like but get your heart checked out. My neighber Bruce retired two years ago,over this past summer I noticed he got tired real quick,and slowed up as summer went on. We really didn't,t think much of it at the time till Oct came he had a heart attacked and passed. As we think back we seen the warning signs,miss the guy. Before you get rid of the tractor,do your family a favor and take half hour and get checked. Just a thought from a son who,s dad had heart surgery this week.
 
Well I'm kinda where you are too, Age and my nerve/spinal cord problem have slowed me down and restricted some things altogether. Priorities change and you can fight it or you can redirect your interests/energy and get the same pride/satisfaction. I sold my last project , a 1937 A and 4 B plow, last spring. It was presentable and I used it but wanted to do it to it so to speak. Sold it to a guy in Kansas and am sure he is just enjoying the crap out of it. Still , and always will, have the B. Growing old is easy, doing it "gracefully" is the hard part. People don't expect sore knuckles work out of us anymore, they expect guidance , knowlege , wisdom and optimism and we have plenty of it to give and in turn we need to accept that as our role and reap the satisfaction that comes from it. Yea, I would just love to get on a nicely studded up flat tracker and make a few laps out on the ice again too. Ones mind is a wonderful thing and parts of it never age but other parts tell you it's time for a change. Not listening or "fighting it" could be very costly. My Grandkids would rather have "Grandpa" around as Grandpa than watching him struggle to do all those things he did at 40 and 50 and probably end up regretting it. Sell it and watch/guide him to build it. RB
 
I have countless projects that deep down I know I will never finish no matter how long I live.
Getting rid of them is not an option as they are my dreams and part of what keeps me going.
One I have been hanging on to for 30 years and have not made any progress on in the past 20.
It has been a long cold rotten winter and caring for cattle in -40 takes a lot out of a persons ambition.
This past week with the weather improving and new calves on the ground every day brings back a ray of hope.
If I had nothing left to look forward to the days would be pretty boring.
Kinda like an old dog, not worth a whole lot of nothing anymore but you wouldn't trade him for all the tea in China.
Hang on to your dreams and take small steps one at a time.
 
If this guy lives near your home maby you could work out some kind of deal to work on it together ,letting him do the heaviest work in exchange for sharing the tractor when finished. Maby working with young guy will bring back some of the fire you said you lost. Don't know if this would be possible or not but its just a thought I had reading your post.
 
I've always wanted to build a tractor from scratch looks like a fun with project but would tale a long time . Where are the parts located .
 
JD Seller

This past winter was one of the worst in a long time.
Cabin fever hit a lot of people. Even though You've been active and working Your farm,It has been an unballanced winter because of the troubles Your Wife and Father have gone through.
A part of You has been with them the whole time.
Thats enough to wear out the strongest of Us.
Keep the project for another year and see how You feel.
I remember after My Grandma past away, Grandpa
bought an old pickup,
My Mother was giving Him a hard time about not needing a truck, He'd been retired 20+ years.
He told Her "I don't need it, I want it!"
You need to "Want" something.
Good Luck and God Bless.

Steve A W
 
Have ditched quite a few desires/dreams that have lost most of their lustre the past 5 or 6 years. They seemed very important but despite now having both the time and resources, accomplishing them just isn't that meaningful. Nothing wrong with abandoning a wish/goal/desire if it becomes irrelevant to your happiness/well being. Providing a stabilizing influence for the newest generation has since become one of my major goals.
 
Wished I lived closer to you to help on that project. I work 28 days out of the country and have 28 days off with not a lot to do. Since I have a 4320, it would be fun to put one together from pieces. (I only use mine around 20-30 hrs a year for mowing six acres of yard, blading my 1/4 mile gravel drive and with a 158 loader for moving dead trees, snow and other small jobs.) Good luck whatever you decide to do.
 
Get someone who will jumpstart you. Make a deal where they will come over at a set time in the morning to have a cup and then head out to the shop.
I have found that projects are always more fun when shared.
good luck
Kenny
 
If the fire to do/complete a big project is fading,
doing it now will be like a 'job' which defeats the purpose
of a fun hobby.
I do however agree with your family.
If you want something, you want it. no explanation needed.
sell your project. to a friend is good, you can see it when it's done.
take the money from your sale, add some and buy the model
you've always wanted that runs and moves.
It doesn't have to be perfect, just useable, to satisfy your 'want'

And like other posters have said, I'd wait til the weather evens out to decide.
This winter has been tough on all of us, depression-cabin fever-laziness etc
 
I've had a couple of projects like that.
One was a 1965 Volvo 1800 S sport coupe.
I hauled it around for years, paid to store it, bought and stocked up a lot of parts for it, had the bumpers rechromed, rebuilt the engine and in general spent a bunch of dough on it.
Then one day I got to looking at it and decieded to call it quits.
I sold it as a basket case for about 1/3 of what I had in it.
For me the act was liberating. It had been an anchor and a detriment to me getting other things done.
The guy who bought it paid to have a shop professionally restore it and it was beautiful. Far nicer than I could have done.
Once in a while I will see one and have some pangs of regret. But not often.
I say sell it off and put your energy into something else. Over the long haul you will be happier and get on to other projects.
 
I'm glad it's not just me! I have the same problem with a few "projects" life just gets so busy, then you just say the heck with it, the fire burns out. I can't tell you what to do, but best of luck.
 
Honestly..I think you have too much going on right now. I cant speak for you..but I know sometimes when I have too much to do..I can kind of get overwhelmed at times. Kind of makes you question why you do things..and what things are the really important things that need to be done. My humble opinion is that you are in too much of a hurry to get this project done. You are retired. That means it can take time to get things done. I kind of had the same thing when I quit milking cows. Had this feeling..all the time...there has to be something that has to get done. I was so used to going all out every day all day..that I had a hard time slowing down. Good luck and find someone to talk to.
 
An after all thee years, all ya got to show is a slow woman an a bunch of bad tractors. Ya jest caint win, can ya......
 
Now I suppose most can relate on principle, I'm sure lots of us have something similar tucked away no matter what it is, same theory, but some significant pieces of the puzzle to either find, or just put together, its all the same no matter how you slice it, and the results are its stalled or prevented from being finished, there must be a name for this phenomenon LOL ! One thing is for sure, not matter what you do, you can't be wrong LOL !! Sell it all off, its off your list. Muster up some motivation and get rolling again, and keep at it till you can see the light at the end of the tunnel, given what you've posted about yourself here over the years, I'd bet we would see a photo of a nicely done tractor !

It seems to me as time goes by, if you own to many of these kinds of things, they start to want to or flat out start to own you LOL Thus, the relief granted, as was mentioned below if you sell it off.

On the other hand, (and I am good at gathering and finding parts too, getting things that are needed, its just the rest of it, - you know the work part of it LOL where I stall out) I know how that goes, its a secure feeling when building something when you have all the parts to it, its just you have to eventually be able to build it, and theres always other priorities with time, or money, + other things that get in the way. That's a hard one to figure sometimes.

In my situation, I'm glad I'm not a hoarder, but do collect a little, things that can be used or parts I know I need, I'd have a real mess if I ever added to what I already have, so I rarely bring anything new in. My problem is over time things accumulate, you get busy working, don't have the "fire" to work an extra few hours, something makes you lose interest, and it sits.

I would agree that having someone join in, someone you like and like to work with is a big help and incentive to keep it going. For me, once I finally get started, I don't like to stop until its done, problem is, getting started !!!! LOL.

I would vote for getting it done somehow, not as easy to just sell it, which I would assume you would probably do well being parts, no loss on the deal, but doing the build is one heck of an accomplishment, maybe its the last big one you do, someone in the family that appreciates it and would have to want to have this tractor as part of the fleet at some point later down the line, knowing who built it. I realize none of this stuff we have plays any role in the big picture, can't take it with you, but its nice to see things passed on, that is the result of someones hard work.


3 situations I can relate a little with, maybe inspire something here.

I have an old D7, I have a nice core for a clutch, but I am stalled on 2 things with it, getting the darned thing apart, so I can have the clutch plates relined, I'm not putting it back in and have to go back and do it over, its out and should be done, I've not found anyone nearby that works on these old double plate, with driven plate in the middle type clutches that can reline them and or take em apart. So its sat a few years, and I am determined to resolve it this year, I need to use the darned thing, I could sell it for scrap and make money as is, but I won't do it, its low hour, it will make a nice tractor for what I use it for. 2 older trucks in the yard, both worth fixing up, they just sit, mostly due to money, both were financed when bought, paid for with a little interest, but I've been stalled because I can't seem to get hired in my field, some of the work I'd send it out for, just to get it done, just don't have the funds, so it sits. Few other things need to be done, small engine equipment, then my old plow truck, the one tractor I have here is always in need of something, now my old grain truck too, so I do what I can with what I have, find deals on things when I can. I've committed to myself to getting these things done, I've cleaned up and made more work space in my garage and in the back of that, I've lowered my health care insurance costs, so I have a little extra to work with, if I do not get something done or at least started, I have to make the decision like you, send it down the road, or some of it down the road.


My neighbor, he ran a small engine, power equipment and saw shop for years, retired now, works a few days a week, he had a tumor on the brain, not cancer, but still. He's my dads age, and is THE most considerate, kind person I know. When they built on the lane here, what was once an entire hay field attached to our farm, he built a nice shop, and the things I have seen come out of there, classic cars, late 50's, 60's and some newer ones he's invested in, he reminds me of you, built his way up, he's a great grandad now too. He's probably got 10 years on you give or take, but he still keeps things rolling in this shop of his. The last car he did was an early 60's corvette, I mean frame off and up, a few years back, probably won't see any more projects, but he's always working on something, or maintaining it. I'd like to know and retain his motivation, its amazing ! His place is also one of the best kept in the neighborhood, we have to live up to his standards, as I joke with him about, its awesome to have him as a neighbor and he's one of the last, most are gone, and houses have all changed at least once.


I have another friend, since high school he's owned this 62 impala SS, his baby in a sense, but he's worked 6-7 days a week, always mediocre jobs, with rotten hours, most of his life, well he finally quit, made a career change, and regimented his time with everything, going back to school for an Associates degree in a much better field, he's already got one and 3/4 of a BS degree which he should finish. That '62 has been a thorn in his side all this time, in '88 or so, it was done, painted, interior nice, decent engine, but over time it faded like things do and needed a ton of work. So for what seems to be the better part of 10 years now, or more since we took out the motor and trans, had both totally rebuilt, the body was such a mess, rusted out in the rockers, floor pans, and hidden areas, when they cut it all out, there was not much left.

Now he's a good gatherer too, all kinds of parts and things, stockpiled. He cleaned out a bay in his little 2 car garage, now his dad was a top notch heavy equipment and truck mechanic, he's got a ton of great tools, he was also an old school body man, and could fabricate to no end, he was an artist, lettered many commerical and business vehicles here for years. Even with all that his son learned what he could about the body work, metal fabrication, (thinner body work metal) using many methods, but I don't think mastered it. I worked with his dad, we lost him last summer, he was top notch, the best, but his son still needed some help, so he employed the help of someone his dad taught as well, and both of them have been working on that car in dedicated increments of time, a day here, a weekend there. Currently, they finished all the metal work, everything, and they moved the car to another shop, so they can do the body work, get it prepped for paint, they will have it shot at another friends shop with a booth, someone I know personally, long time body shop, Finally ! Its been such a long time, we will see that car in its full glory again. He's been overworked, funds good, then not so good, at times, just seemed to spin his wheels, but with the help of his friend, they somehow got it turned around, and I mean this car was a real mess in places that needed a lot of work to restore, all with metal fabrication, very labor intense. I'm glad to see this progress, we are good friends its been a pain the whole time, but that car has a ton of memories, he'd be crushed to sell it, its almost an heirloom, yet we should be smarter than to get attached to a darned automobile, not as bad as the movie "Christine", but similar in a good way LOL ! He's no Arnie, cripes I'd un-friend him if he was that obsessed ! Since he's owned this car, I am the only other person that was ever trusted to drive it, have a photo of me just as I was taking off with it the last time I did, was '93 or so, I don't even think his dad drove it ! I am glad he did not sell it, somehow he stuck to his guns with all the other things that took priority.

Well way too long winded, but better than being in the bar today with all the happy people St Patrick's Day, maybe you enjoyed the story, and it influences you one way or the other LOL !!!!
 
You should never give up on a dream, although it's OK to make some modifications along the way. When you get to the point that there's nothing left you want to do, you're done. Always have a goal ahead of you to work toward, even if you suspect you'll never reach it.
 
Hi
I would hold off a bit and agree with some others here, you got way to much emotional and physical drain right now. I know what this winter did to me out on the farm I"m only 40!.
my paying shop work is behind, and I never really got any work done on any of my 15 or so fordsons. I wasn"t dealing with half your problems either.

I had a friend call me one afternoon in November he was looking for something to do and head over here.
We went and put wheels on a new purchase of mine in - 15 0c. Having him help made me want to do it.

Maybe you just don"t want to be on your own doing it either. I have that on my own motivation problem to some days, see if the kid would come help you a bit and let him use the tractor after, both of you would then have an achievement and goal.

Many times in the last 5 years I said thats it those tractors are going. But i still buy more and the others are still here.
If you did sell ask the kid if you could go help even. Then you still have contact with it when you want to do it.
Regards Robert
 

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