Anonymous-0
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When you have loaded your tractor do you leave it in gear? I heard that shucking back and forth on two or three teeth is bad and neutral is better.
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Martin Reece
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Good day, not sure why it would be moving back and forth chained down. I always leave in gear and chain down tight.
I always chain in 4 corners and then add two more for my piece of mind.
Martin
I always chain in 4 corners and then add two more for my piece of mind.
Martin
fixerupper
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I wouldn't think anything in the gear train would be hurt if it's bound down properly. I do put mine in gear just because of the one in a million chance all four chains would break, letting the tractor coast off the trailer. I do have it in neutral when I bind it down so I'm not fighting the transmission with the load binders. Jim
Super Trucker
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I have seen more than one tractor that started from jerking back and forth . Mag tractors no way in he!! Do I leave them in gear.
Dave H (MI)
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I never leave a tractor in gear, trailer or not, but always set the brake. Not going to argue my reasons either. I have good ones.
Anonymous-0
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If I load a trailer, I first set the park brake and then put transmission in park.
That way the rocking back and forth motion is transmitted to the brakes before the trans. takes up the slack.
That way the rocking back and forth motion is transmitted to the brakes before the trans. takes up the slack.
Ellis Kinney
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I haul Farmall M tractors. In spite of being told to leave them in gear, I never do. I set the brake, and put it in neutral. I use chains in both directions on the rear wheels, and chain the front wheels tight against the front of the trailer. Others may disagree, but I feel safe. Ellis
Anonymous-0
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I leave mine in gear till I get the chains tight. Then I tighten them again...
Rollie NE PA
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We chain them down and they don't move. Always lock the brakes and put in gear. Works for us.
John Fulton
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I used to haul a JD 2350 on a 2 1/2 ton stake-side truck at work. Had a lady pull in front of me and I had to brake very suddenly, although tractor was chained down forward and aft, parking brake set, tractor still rolled forward a ft. I thought it was coming into cab of truck. The lady was clueless what she had done. If ever I was to post a rant here, it would be how little most car drivers are totally unaware of the limitations in braking large trucks have relative to cars.
I always put mine in gear. What little rocking it may do will turn the engine. There's more force on those gears when you're plowing.
You do have to watch the John Deere tractors with magnetos that don't have a kill switch on the mag.
Some people leave them run while on the trailer then turn the gas valve off. It'll run till it sucks all the gas out of the carb so it can't start afterward.
You do have to watch the John Deere tractors with magnetos that don't have a kill switch on the mag.
Some people leave them run while on the trailer then turn the gas valve off. It'll run till it sucks all the gas out of the carb so it can't start afterward.
Massey farmer
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That's quite a rig. I see you hold the farmall above the deeres!!
RandyB(MI)
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probably up there cus it never gets unloaded.lol
Kent Petersen
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Guys i have hauled a lot of tractors i my day and leave them in gear but if you are hauling very far gear oil will come off the gears and then they score same with brgs this does not happen on some of the later tractors depends on the park gears scnro trans on jd 4020 and many others is just one of many that park locks two shift collars on the bottom shaft and the oil level is half way up on that shaft so every thing that locks the trans is in oil there must be other brands that are like that to but i dont work on them
showcrop
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It's a bad idea to leave it in gear because it will start up from the back and forth motion. At least Old claimed a couple years back that it had happened to him. Then if you back your tractor on like that fellow in the earlier thread, it will drive right off and go back to where you loaded it, and you will have to make the trip all over again.
I always run my hand crank Bs out of gas. My 30 series, I shut the key off and the fuel off on the diesels when I pull the throttle back. I ALWAYS put them in gear as I do not trust the brakes. My standards lock does not hold the brake pedal that well.
I don't know of any tractor that can be started by moving it 3 inches. Every thing would have to exactly right. Three feet, yes.
I don't know of any tractor that can be started by moving it 3 inches. Every thing would have to exactly right. Three feet, yes.
Lock the brakes and put in low gear.Nothing there to hurt from being in gear.Look how hard there jerked around when being used,hauling is nothing.
Being in neutral makes the tractor jerk on your chains every time you stop and take off.If a chain breaks or a binder breaks there's nothing to keep the tractor from rolling off the truck.It's just another safety precaution.
Being in neutral makes the tractor jerk on your chains every time you stop and take off.If a chain breaks or a binder breaks there's nothing to keep the tractor from rolling off the truck.It's just another safety precaution.
Eldon (WA)
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Yup, no reason not to put them in gear...just another safety measure if a chain should break. There are just as many teeth engaged as if you were working the crap out of it. If it is moving, your chains aren't tight enough anyway....now on a turboed tractor I do duct tape the muffler....but that is a whole nuther argument....
37chief
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I see how it can happen to start on a trailer. If the mag is in the right place ready to fire, and it snaps over, and fires a charge of gas in the cylinder. If it's chained proper it will probably just kill the engine. I shut one of my tractors off at the mag, so the mag is hot on my tractor all the time. Stan
I guess I set at least one brake. But that is just to hold it in place while I bind it down.
If it is rocking back and forth enough to do anything to the transmission while in gear you better pull off to the side and retighten your boomers.
When I tie down something is squishing or bending. Tires when on rubber better bulge and either the deck or something will bend a bit if on steel. Also tie indepently all four directions.
hth
jt
If it is rocking back and forth enough to do anything to the transmission while in gear you better pull off to the side and retighten your boomers.
When I tie down something is squishing or bending. Tires when on rubber better bulge and either the deck or something will bend a bit if on steel. Also tie indepently all four directions.
hth
jt
it will drive right off and go back to where you loaded it, and you will have to make the trip all over again.
I heard of a man that happened to with a tractor he had just bought. Sell backed out on the sell causing the buyer to waste his intire day without anything to show for it.
I allways tie the steering wheel cut hard to the right so it's easier to chase down.
I heard of a man that happened to with a tractor he had just bought. Sell backed out on the sell causing the buyer to waste his intire day without anything to show for it.
I allways tie the steering wheel cut hard to the right so it's easier to chase down.
just another old geezer
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Is that a WD-40???
just another old geezer
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If it is moving around on the trailer enough to put strain on the gears, it is not tied down tight enough.
Tx Jim
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If a magneto tractor that's chained down engine starts from rocking back & forth while chained down a DOT officer needs to have a "serious conversation" with the person that's driving the truck. I've hauled many tractors & equipment and if they rock any it's past time to stop and tighten the boomers.
I never leave tractors in gear unless the engine is stuck, I have had two different tractor engine become free doing this . Anything else I throw a block behind the rear wheel till I get it chained tight . I have hauled a lot of tractors over the years . I was taught when I hauled tractors for a dealer in northeast Nebraska to never put the transmission in park or park lock . I was told that there was a possibility of popping a tooth off ot the park gear. These were mostly IH 86 series . I never wanted to find out what would happen , nor did I try it . I have been leaving them in neutral ever since and have not had any problems .
JJ.
JJ.
true - but tractors do move WHILE chaining them
down. And remember, depending on what gear it's
in, just a few degrees on the back wheel might
mean a full revolution of the engine.
I know it's extremely unlikely to happen - you'd
also have to forget about the kill switch (if it
has one) - but I'm always a whole lot more
comfortable when a magneto tractor's out of gear -
end of story.
My magneto tractors are both hand start - so as a
rule they're never left in gear - ever. I'd
rather the long shot risk of one rolling away than
one rolling over somebody when they start it and
forget to check the trans.
I don't get the upside to leaving it in gear.
down. And remember, depending on what gear it's
in, just a few degrees on the back wheel might
mean a full revolution of the engine.
I know it's extremely unlikely to happen - you'd
also have to forget about the kill switch (if it
has one) - but I'm always a whole lot more
comfortable when a magneto tractor's out of gear -
end of story.
My magneto tractors are both hand start - so as a
rule they're never left in gear - ever. I'd
rather the long shot risk of one rolling away than
one rolling over somebody when they start it and
forget to check the trans.
I don't get the upside to leaving it in gear.
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