Anonymous-0
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Talking in an earlier thread about nuclear , I always had a dream of having a very miniature reactor in a car or tractor and power it for the life of the vehicle. wouldn't that nnalert off the Mideast oil rags
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CenTex Farmall
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The military actually worked on building a nuke-u-lar powered bomber back in the day. It would have gone in a modified B-36. Would have required a 20,000 foot runway.
At one point they had an operating test reactor in the back of a plane, although it wasn't providing power to anything. Following that plane around was a C-130 full of Marines to close off the area in the event of an un-expected off airport "landing".
They finally decided it wasn't that practical of an idea.
At one point they had an operating test reactor in the back of a plane, although it wasn't providing power to anything. Following that plane around was a C-130 full of Marines to close off the area in the event of an un-expected off airport "landing".
They finally decided it wasn't that practical of an idea.
Stephen Newell
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There is too much danger of a terrorist using the nuclear fuel for other purposes. Anyway if someone would make such a motor one of the oil companies would either kill them or buy them out. There has been a couple of different people that built a car motor that would run on water. The first one was in the early 20th century and the guy, the prototype car and plans mysteriously disappeared. Then 4 or 5 years ago I saw on the evening news a guy that came up with another one. The last I heard the guy was trying to make a deal with US car manufacturers to put his engine in their cars. I wonder what happened to him? In searching for the last guys name I ran across a Japanese company which has a prototype of a H20 car called Genepax so perhaps the oil companies can't keep it suppressed forever.
NewEnglandFarmer
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I'm all set with that. I get enough radiation on a daily basis with things like my government tracker phones and such
How bout more drilling here to pee-off the foreign oil suppliers??
How bout more drilling here to pee-off the foreign oil suppliers??
Anonymous-0
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If you think vehicles are priced high now, well that would put a spike into prices. Not to mention the fact that the govt. would have to be in control.
buickanddeere
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Complete and total conspiracy lovers tall tale and a lie. Water which is the end product of "combustion" . Can no more be burned than the ashes left in the bottom of a wood or coal stove.
How can people who graduated from high school be unaware of the basic laws of physics and chemistry?
Prawn Farmer
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. . . bomber idea must have had the same fate as the nuclear powered cigarette lighter, nuclear powered bar-b-que grill or the nuclear powered fondu pan warmer. Almost had a nuclear powered hearing aid but the inventor/tester went nuts for some odd reason.
LOL B&D you have that right! That's something I've laughed about for years, that elusive 40 plus MPG V8 with 4 BBL Carb. Because of what they are not teaching in school people don't understand that any engine based on size requires X amount of fuel and air, mixed together, to achieve combustion. A carb, with fixed fuel metering and variable and metering is a very inefficient device. That's one of the reasons that EFI which measures air and adds the correct amount of fuel for conditions drastically increases economy.
Rick
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When I was in high school, physics and chemistry hadn't been invented yet.
Russ from MN
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Remember when there were always rumors about someone inventing a super carburetor that would give fantastic mileage, and the oil companies would by them off? Well, now no vehicles have carburetors' and we still cant get over 30mpg.
You are close to right if you drop the "they would kill them". The treat of radio active material being used to make a dirty bomb is there. You would also have the price of construction of "mini" reactors and fuel. Not economically feasible. Plus you would have to get the general population over the fear of nukes.
The guy you are referring to was a scam artist. His water driven car actually had a hydrogen generator. His claim was you could drive anywhere and only add water. In reality it would have to be left by the curb, generating hydrogen for several hours to be able to drive around the block once. Thy news media got sucked in at first. That's why you didn't hear about the guy afterwards. The news media wasn't about to make themselves look like the village idiot by admitting they got suckered.
Rick
Nancy Howell
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You mean they're not in control now?
Donald Lehman
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B&D,
LOL!!! If you can ask that question, you haven't been paying much attention to what the "puppy mill" Pub-lik-ed-yew-kay-shion system has been churning out over the last 15 years or so, have you? (smile) Those few who have escaped the system and do know anything have done it on their own in spite of the system and not because of it.
LOL!!! If you can ask that question, you haven't been paying much attention to what the "puppy mill" Pub-lik-ed-yew-kay-shion system has been churning out over the last 15 years or so, have you? (smile) Those few who have escaped the system and do know anything have done it on their own in spite of the system and not because of it.
Anonymous-0
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I always thought nuclear powered locomotives might work. Around here the trains set for long times as the cars are put in line. Locomotives run on electricity so why not plug rhem in the grid when sitting idle.
Maybe dumb i don,t know
Maybe dumb i don,t know
Don't be so hot to make those claims. When we move to MN from NJ in 71 I had taken and passed algebra 1 and 2 and biology 1 and 2. When we got here I wound up taking general math as a HS junior and book keeping a senior to meet the 4 year math requirement for MN and general science 1 and 2 for the same reason. That covered fall of 71 to spring of 73. As a senior I also was given the same history book that I'd had in 8th grade in NJ. At the time MN was ranked good on HS education. The valedictorian of my class won an appointment to West Point and flunked out academically in the first semester. Pretty sad when you try to compare schools of today.
Rick
Steve@Advance
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Yep, remember when Jay Lenno would do "Jaywalking", ask people simple questions on the street, see what ridiculous answers they would give...
He went on a college campus with a flashlight battery, a flashlight lamp, and a piece of wire.
"Can you make this lamp light?" was asked as he handed them the items.
I don't know how many could actually do it, they may have been edited out, but the ones that couldn't were amazing.
The stories ranged from "The electron flow can't be established within the experiment because blah, blah, blah..." to "It will shock me!" to just stand there looking stupid.
Scarey!
He went on a college campus with a flashlight battery, a flashlight lamp, and a piece of wire.
"Can you make this lamp light?" was asked as he handed them the items.
I don't know how many could actually do it, they may have been edited out, but the ones that couldn't were amazing.
The stories ranged from "The electron flow can't be established within the experiment because blah, blah, blah..." to "It will shock me!" to just stand there looking stupid.
Scarey!
Russ from MN
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Water can be turned back into Hydrogen and Oxygen by electrolysis, but that requires a lot of electricity.
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T in NE
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For once I have to agree with B&D.
Jimmy Kimmel also has a "Lie Witness News" segment where they do that.
Jimmy Kimmel First Lady Debate
Jimmy Kimmel also has a "Lie Witness News" segment where they do that.
Jimmy Kimmel First Lady Debate
Stephen Newell
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Once upon a time it was impossible to build a craft where a person can fly. While water isn't flamable it's already been done to seperate the hydrogen from it and burn it for fuel. Someone just needs to come up with a easier and cheaper way to do it. I think it's feasable. http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/07/28/water-powered-car-unveiled-yes-its-real/
Someone may find a answer tomorrow and it may take another 100 years.
Just cause it's on the internet doesn't make it real. I looked up hydrogen generators for my friend last year as he's computer ignorant. He was talking about the ones you can mount on an existing system that's supposed to reduce gas consumption. Never did find any real data but did find a lot of ads selling those systems. I was amazed with all the hype and the lack of any real scientific data.
Now to another question. With places/areas world wide suffering from water shortages how well do you think hydrogen power is going to be accepted when the choice is abundant food with irrigation or cheap fuel. Yes you do get some water out of the exhaust on a hydrogen engine as I understand it but not nearly the amount you break down because some of the oxygen and hydrogen are burned. Water, even though it covers a large part of the earth is a finite resource. We can, if we have to do without oil. We cannot survive without water.
Rick
Terrorists need nuclear material to do harm like I need higher taxes. The "nuclear plants will produce so much waste material the terrorists will easily be able to get it and kill us all!" theory is simply bogus. There's so much waste out there now it would have been done already. A terrorist, if he wanted to, could drop a backpack filled with household chemicals under the bleachers at a basketball game or in the mall and do lots of harm. A dozen determined guys could bring the nation to a halt for several days at least. It's just a matter of time and it's not going to take nuclear material to do it. Why it hasn't happened yet is a testament to lack of imagination on the terrs part and good police work on our side.
There was an attack of sorts on a power station out west last year that sure looked like a terr practice run. Very little on the news about it. You shut down the power grid for 3 days and you will have anarchy and Martial Law being declared.
There was an attack of sorts on a power station out west last year that sure looked like a terr practice run. Very little on the news about it. You shut down the power grid for 3 days and you will have anarchy and Martial Law being declared.
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